Members DRW50 Posted January 9, 2022 Members Share Posted January 9, 2022 Did Lemay say that it was seeing Ford in a stage production which made him appreciate how talented she was and start writing for her more heavily, or am I just making that up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 9, 2022 Members Share Posted January 9, 2022 I don't think you are. I recall reading the same thing, either in his book, or in an interview. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Xanthe Posted January 9, 2022 Members Share Posted January 9, 2022 Donna (like Felicia) was created by Robert Soderberg. DePriest came in not long after Michael had been introduced and IMO weakened the character a lot even though she brought her to the forefront as a kind of heroine/damsel to the point where it seemed like Reginald's treatment of Donna was the reason for Michael's conflict with Reginald and Donna was just the object. DePriest created drips like Cheryl and Dawn and Lisa. I am not sure whether she should get any credit for Anne Heche's Vicky -- as I recall Vicky spent an inordinate amount of time fretting over whether Donna and John were having an affair under DePriest's watch. I'm not sure any of Vicky's really interesting storylines started until afterward. Of course I don't think DePriest did anything interesting with Felicia either. Even John Hudson, who may be the only character she created who lasted for any length of time, had a lousy introduction and was redeemed later (not in the sense that he became a better person, but in the sense that later writers did a better job of making him interesting). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 9, 2022 Members Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) All I remember Maggie DePriest doing with John was having him strut around shirtless and come onto Donna. Edited January 9, 2022 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 9, 2022 Members Share Posted January 9, 2022 DePriest also set up the "no means yes" backstory with Donna and John that taints the material between them. You're right - I don't remember Heche having much to do of interest until she moved across the hall from Lisa and started making a play for Jamie. To be fair, DePriest is the one who set up that relationship (with Rhonda Whelan's Vicky), but that's about it. I have a really hard time watching Anna's last months as Donna for the reason you give. She is incredibly, depressingly weak, to the point where I'm surprised she can even walk and talk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 9, 2022 Members Share Posted January 9, 2022 To this day, Jamie and Vicky's relationship seems like one of the most random things ever to occur on AW. It doesn't feel organic at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 It's one of those very plot-driven relationships that is difficult to ever invest in. It didn't help that Laurence Lau seemed so ill-at-ease and also felt much older than his love interests at AW, for some reason. I think they could have done more with Rachel vs Vicky - that was the one part that had potential. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 Between the stiffness and the extra pounds, it truly seems like LL was miserable on that show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 Did he ever discuss his time at AW? I have read bad reviews of it so many times in the past thirty years that I have to wonder if there was something else going on in his life or something BTS that explains it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Xanthe Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) According to the ibdb, Ford had no Broadway credits after she joined AW. Of course Broadway is not the only theatre and Lemay mentions Beverlee McKinsey and Constance Ford performing in a play of his, probably in 1973: But he had already admired Ford, the above was more about putting Iris and Ada together. Edited January 10, 2022 by Xanthe fixing quotes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) I notice that Charles Grant (who I did think came across better onscreen than Lau at AW) also seemed more bloated and low-key there compared to some of his earlier or later work. I know that was the big coke era, but then I also remember some actors - Linda Dano maybe - talking about how lonely and isolating the experience could be due to how remote the studio was. Thanks. Edited January 10, 2022 by DRW50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Xanthe Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 Reginald's henchwoman Gomez was making sure that Donna was drugged and confused and the performance conveyed both physical and mental weakness. I don't know when Anna Stuart decided to leave and whether she left because she wasn't enjoying her storyline or whether DePriest didn't know how to write the character out without making her feeble. I was surprised that Lau was not a more appealing romantic hero because I had heard that Greg and Jenny on AMC had been so popular. But after Bekins and Yates he seemed uncharismatic and stodgy. Of course I also blame DePriest for making him a doctor. Joanna Going was charismatic but Lisa was saddled with a past rape and psychic powers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) He was a lot heavier on The Bold and Beautiful (96-98) so while I don't know what he looks like now, I had always assumed it was just that as he got older, his metabolism was that of a thicker man who slowly got thicker. And even though I liked Amanda/Evan on the first go, neither roles really recaptured why he was so appealing on EoN. Sometimes magic only strikes once. Edited January 10, 2022 by FrenchBug82 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Xanthe Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 God, don't get me started. Sometimes I think DePriest's attitude to sexuality was more messed up than the Sin Stalker's. For one thing somehow the rape put Donna in the wrong and John was allowed to insist that his point of view in which she had wanted him was the correct one. For another it somehow was supposed to make John's relationship to Donna more significant because it made him her "first" lover instead of Michael, and there was also a huge significance placed on the possibility that John could be Marley and Victoria's father (including the mysterious photo that Reginald had showed Donna which turned out to be of John and apparently two infants as if that could be evidence of paternity). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 10, 2022 Members Share Posted January 10, 2022 I thought he looked slimmer in the face on B&B, but I suppose it just helped that he seemed to be enjoying himself more. It's too bad that was his last soap role. I haven't seen most of his EoN work but I agree that sometimes magic just happens once. I wonder if the story would have been better if they had just done the triplets, if they would have never gone with Donna/John, or if that was happening anyway. The sad part is even women who were not being drugged, like MJ, also felt very weak...to be honest I just came away wondering if DePriest hated women. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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