4 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

And, to @chrismlI would ask you, when you wrote Jake off, which is totally fair to do with a rapist, did you know about the controversy where it is suggested that it was totally OOC to write that Jake did so?

I don't think Jake was needed after a certain point regardless of the rape, but the rape clinched it for me. I think sometimes shows cling onto specific characters/actors and it harms the show because there's no room for growth or other possibilities. I don't know what the backstage drama was in relation to Eplin but I just never felt Jake was worth the money or the time investment. I feel the same way about GH and the character of Sonny. To keep it P&G related, I have similar thoughts about Kim Zimmer's Reva especially during Calhoun's tenure where GL was allowed to thrive once she was no longer there.

4 hours ago, Efulton said:

Donna it is not my job to police inappropriate and thoughtless comments on here.  However, the more I see of them the less time I want to spend reading these threads.

This thread, and the whole atmosphere won't be the same without you. ❤️ I look forward to seeing you here with us. 

P.S I have a review to write, because we watched an episode finally yesterday. We had rested a bit from the show unintentionally and I've also been in Pine Valley with Phoebe, Erica and Skye! But I'm starting to miss Bay City and this topic too! Miss reading you guys. I have to catch up on the last few pages. 

Edited January 17Jan 17 by Maxim

22 minutes ago, chrisml said:

I don't think Jake was needed after a certain point regardless of the rape, but the rape clinched it for me. I think sometimes shows cling onto specific characters/actors and it harms the show because there's no room for growth or other possibilities. I don't know what the backstage drama was in relation to Eplin but I just never felt Jake was worth the money or the time investment. I feel the same way about GH and the character of Sonny. To keep it P&G related, I have similar thoughts about Kim Zimmer's Reva especially during Calhoun's tenure where GL was allowed to thrive once she was no longer there.

Yeah, there was no BTS drama about Tom Eplin. There was just the network pushing violence against women & with Jake, it was specifically pushing an action that many fans, including me, think was totally unrealistic according to his character. Jake would not have raped Marley, or anyone else for that matter. Jake was just not a rapist, a bad guy, a villain. He was a blue collar dude with a chip on his shoulder but that's the worst I can dredge up to say about him. Anyway, thanks for replying. 

Sonny, I've always hated, always will. 

Reva, not a fan. 

6 hours ago, chrisml said:

My heart goes out to anyone who lost a home.

MY recollection is that there was some bad blood/displeasure surrounding Tom Eplin's departure from ATWT. I have no idea what that entailed though. Once Jake raped Marley, I had no interest in the character, and he should have been written off the show. I don't think Eplin was important enough to the show to romanticise another rapist. At the time of his switch to ATWT, I imagine a lot of ATWT fans were extremely confused that his character suddenly showed up on their show and hogged up air time. Jake's death on ATWT was a decade too late in my book.

It's entirely true that there were ATWT fans who resented Jake, Vicky, Cass, Lila, Donna & Marley & the twins. 

29 minutes ago, Maxim said:

This thread, and the whole atmosphere won't be the same without you. ❤️ I look forward to seeing you here with us. 

P.S I have a review to write, because we watched an episode finally yesterday. We had rested a bit from the show unintentionally and I've also been in Pine Valley with Phoebe, Erica and Skye! But I'm starting to miss Bay City and this topic too! Miss reading you guys. I have to catch up on the last few pages. 

Your joy watching these episodes for the first time is what I love to see on here.  You have so much good stuff ahead of you. 1989 is filled with great stories, events, returns, goodbyes and a few wonderful new characters.  In my opinion it is the last year where popular actors from the 60s, 70s and 80s are represented. 

2 hours ago, Efulton said:

Your joy watching these episodes for the first time is what I love to see on here.  You have so much good stuff ahead of you. 1989 is filled with great stories, events, returns, goodbyes and a few wonderful new characters.  In my opinion it is the last year where popular actors from the 60s, 70s and 80s are represented. 

Ah, this is so nice and so encouraging to hear. I know that I'm mostly repeating things that you guys already know... but I do try to give it my own flair and bring my emotion and humor into, so it doesn't bore you.  ❤️

On 1/17/2025 at 9:15 PM, Maxim said:

Ah, this is so nice and so encouraging to hear. I know that I'm mostly repeating things that you guys already know... but I do try to give it my own flair and bring my emotion and humor into, so it doesn't bore you.  ❤️

Bore us?!!! Are you kidding? I hope so because vicariously  "watching" AW is just so much fun!!! Please keep on in your journey into Bay City social life. Iris & Rachel are waiting for you.

I've come across some articles I'd like to share. First up: RKK about Doug Watson.

Next: RKK about Connie Ford

Now JFP about Frankie:

Hold on to something. This may prove to be difficult.

Last one, this is Jill about P&G vs. NBC. I never knew she said this.

11 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Bore us?!!! Are you kidding? I hope so because vicariously  "watching" AW is just so much fun!!! Please keep on in your journey into Bay City social life. Iris & Rachel are waiting for you.

Another World - January 16th, 1989

There is a snake in the company.

In the Cory Publishing building Mac is shocked to find the level of material his daughter Amanda has produced is not up to par with the standard quality of the magazine. Iris confronts him and tries to persuade him to let Amanda work on all the projects (AND THEY ARE MANY) she has given her. Mac finds the whole situation absurd and thinks Iris is overworking his little daughter and putting her up for failure. Iris of course, denies and claims that she has her sister's best interests and that it's Rachel's fault that Mac is now doubting her. If you ask Iris, Rachel is to blame for everything, including Global Warming. 😂

Iris has put out yet another one of her traps and the Cory's are falling for it. She has purposely made so that Mac will get angry and disappointed by Amanda's unpolished work, and that she can appear as the savior and Mac and Rachel - the ones that don't believe in her and the bad guys. All she wants to do is breed toxic atmosphere in the family and break Rachel, Mac and Amanda's rapport. She wants to eat them from inside out. And she is succeeding at this moment. 💅 When later in the episode Amanda overhears her mother and father talking critically of her, she once again assumes that it's only Saint Iris who wants the best for her.  👼

In the hospital we have Jamie in turmoil over still-sleeping beauty Victoria. She opens her eyes for a moment, so that he gets a glimpse of hope, but then she disappears into nothingness again. Victoria's father Michael is the other person severely emotional about the chance of losing his daughter. He is even crying at the thought of it. Saint Iris, once again, circling like a vulture... comes once again to offer a helping... "hand" (we all know what helping organ she wants to offer) and Michael pushes her away for the 192892th time. But we learn one thing - for some reason Michael did not tell Donna about his past with Iris. Iris takes that as a sign of weakness in the relationship. 

In the finale of the episode, Victoria opens her eyes to see Jamie full of "love" and care for her. All is happy ending, EXCEPT one little detail - WHO'S THE DADDY! 

Overall 10 / 10. I would have given it 11/10, but I don't want @Contessa Donatella to think I can't count. 💗

Highlight - Iris pitting the family against each-other. 

Edited January 19Jan 19 by Maxim

13 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Another World - January 16th, 1989

There is a snake in the company.

In the Cory Publishing building Mac is shocked to find the level of material his daughter Amanda has produced is not up to par with the standard quality of the magazine. Iris confronts him and tries to persuade him to let Amanda work on all the projects (AND THEY ARE MANY) she has given her. Mac finds the whole situation absurd and thinks Iris is overworking his little daughter and putting her up for failure. Iris of course, denies and claims that she has her sister's best interests and that it's Rachel's fault that Mac is now doubting her. If you ask Iris, Rachel is to blame for everything, including Global Warming. 😂

Iris has put out yet another one of her traps and the Cory's are falling for it. She has purposely made so that Mac will get angry and disappointed by Amanda's unpolished work, and that she can appear as the savior and Mac and Rachel - the ones that don't believe in her and the bad guys. All she wants to do is breed toxic atmosphere in the family and break Rachel, Mac and Amanda's rapport. She wants to eat them from inside out. And she is succeeding at this moment. 💅 When later in the episode Amanda overhears her mother and father talking critically of her, she once again assumes that it's only Saint Iris who wants the best for her.  👼

In the hospital we have Jamie in turmoil over still-sleeping beauty Victoria. She opens her eyes for a moment, so that he gets a glimpse of hope, but then she disappears into nothingness again. Victoria's father Michael is the other person severely emotional about the chance of losing his daughter. He is even crying at the thought of it. Saint Iris, once again, circling like a vulture... comes once again to offer a helping... "hand" (we all know what helping organ she wants to offer) and Michael pushes her away for the 192892th time. But we learn one thing - for some reason Michael did not tell Donna about his past with Iris. Iris takes that as a sign of weakness in the relationship. 

In the finale of the episode, Victoria opens her eyes to see Jamie full of "love" and care for her. All is happy ending, EXCEPT one little detail - WHO'S THE DADDY! 

Overall 10 / 10. I would have given it 11/10, but I don't want @Contessa Donatella to think I can't count. 💗

Highlight - Iris pitting the family against each-other. 

Do you know the Christopher Guest movie SPINAL TAP? Well, in it, they turn the volume on the amps to 11, which of course, is a major gag because the amps only go to 10. I'm personally a really huge fan of turning the dial to 11!

Otherwise, dam* that Iris! Also poor Amanda! If it were me, I would not be excited to be following in the footsteps of either Rachel or Mac! 

 

1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Do you know the Christopher Guest movie SPINAL TAP? Well, in it, they turn the volume on the amps to 11, which of course, is a major gag because the amps only go to 10. I'm personally a really huge fan of turning the dial to 11!

Otherwise, dam* that Iris! Also poor Amanda! If it were me, I would not be excited to be following in the footsteps of either Rachel or Mac! 

 

I have never heard of that movie! 

But I'm glad that I now have a green light to level up my satisfaction to 11 or even more! 💗

Susan Sullivan posted on X a short time ago that she is suffering from lung cancer and lymphoma. I was not aware of this. I hope she beats this and pulls through!

I have only seen a few clips of her on AW. I know her mostly from Falcon Crest. I wish there was more of her work out there as Lenore. 

Just now, Melroser said:

Susan Sullivan posted on X a short time ago that she is suffering from lung cancer and lymphoma. I was not aware of this. I hope she beats this and pulls through!

I have only seen a few clips of her on AW. I know her mostly from Falcon Crest. I wish there was more of her work out there as Lenore. 

Sad to hear. I wish her recovery.  😔

Jill Farren Phelps raised Another World’s ratings! AW was beating Guiding Light! 

6 hours ago, Maxim said:

I have never heard of that movie! 

I am an aficionado of all of the Christopher Guest projects. They use improvisation to develop their movies but by the time they do final shoots they have a codified script from their rehearsal improvs. SPINAL TAP is the first & is not the best or the strongest. In the movie, they play the British rock group which is where turning the amps up to 11 comes in. One interesting item of note is that they went crazy shooting & by the end they had enough for 4 or 5 movies!!

6 hours ago, Maxim said:

But I'm glad that I now have a green light to level up my satisfaction to 11 or even more! 💗

Clear field to make the numbers whatever your heart desires!

26 minutes ago, TEdgeofNight said:

Jill Farren Phelps raised Another World’s ratings! AW was beating Guiding Light! 

In all the ratings data I have seen, GL was above AW during Phelps' tenure on AW.  Can you link to a source?