3 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Uh, problem. Bunny Eberhardt was the name of the hit person that Marcia McCabe played. Was it a character name that did double duty? Maybe did Jake pick up the name from her? Just mentally stretching here ... I thought Jake's drag name was something else. 

Jake thought his name was Bunny Eberhardt when he had amnesia in 1995 because he had Bunny Eberhardt's wallet. I forget when he dressed in drag -- did he use the name Doris then?

4 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

Jake thought his name was Bunny Eberhardt when he had amnesia in 1995 because he had Bunny Eberhardt's wallet. I forget when he dressed in drag -- did he use the name Doris then?

The wallet! Yes. Thanks. And, you're right, Doris! 

7 minutes ago, j swift said:

@China Jones Spilt-personalities, doppelgängers, and identical twins were a dime a dozen in Bay City.

Cass, Vicky, Rachel, Jordan, Amanda, and Sharlene each had one.

Did Amanda have two? In 1989 Dustin Trent (played by James Kiberd) tried to force her to impersonate his dead wife in order to obtain some kind of inheritance. Then in 1999 the reason Jordan Stark was obsessed with her was because somehow she was also his beloved Amelie (and they had to break her strong, strong love for Cameron Sinclair so that Jordan and Amelie could be together).

Don't forget that Alexander Nikos was a dead ringer for Lucas, and Anne O'Donnell exactly like Frankie.

3 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

Did Amanda have two?

And don't forget Hadley Prescott (or do, it is for the best if we all try to forget that story 🙄)

I mean she wasn't another personality, but as we discussed the other day, there was some dialogue when the boundaries were getting blurred

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2 minutes ago, j swift said:

And don't forget Hadley Prescott (or do, it is for the best if we all try to forget that story 🙄)

I mean she wasn't another personality, but as we discussed the other day, there was some dialogue when the boundaries were getting blurred

Are you going to insist I also remember Mandy Ashton? 🤣

BTW - it is still one of my favorite soapy things when characters have lived through a trauma like their loved one being kidnapped and impersonated, and later they are shocked and amazed when it happens again.  I'm tickled when a change in writers means that a character has learned nothing from the past few years.

IRL if someone you knew returned to town in a bad wig, I hope you'd think, "oh, that's the same thing that happened to my Uncle Shlomo's wife two years ago..."

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11 minutes ago, j swift said:

And don't forget Hadley Prescott (or do, it is for the best if we all try to forget that story 🙄)

Wasn't that Michael Malone? Was it part of the 13 Bourbon St. bible? Hard to remember, tried to block it out, although Laura Moss was a real trooper! 

57 minutes ago, China Jones said:

Thanks, now I remember! It seems like I recall Dee and Nancy McGowan, Rachel's younger sister, interviewing with a stuffy rich lady in their quest to become debutants. Wasn't this around the time Cass had a split personality or a look-a-like?

Cass needed a letter of recommendation for Dee to become a debutant so he tricked amnesiac Rachel Cory to write a letter for Dee in the storyline as well.

10 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

Are you going to insist I also remember Mandy Ashton?

I happened to LIKE Mandy! 

10 minutes ago, j swift said:

BTW - it is still one of my favorite soapy things when characters have lived through a trauma like their loved one being kidnapped and impersonated, and later they are shocked and amazed when it happens again.  I'm tickled when a change in writers means that a character has learned nothing from the past few years.

IRL if someone you knew returned to town in a bad wig, I hope you'd think, "oh, that's the same thing that happened to my Uncle Shlomo's wife two years ago..."

I find that to be especially true in another NBC soap, DAYS, you know, they are just totally incredulous when someone comes back from the dead, even if they've previously had that same experience!!

5 hours ago, Xanthe said:

Both the impulse to rapidly age characters who are too young and the pull to keep characters who would otherwise be too old within a generational age bracket have the same root cause -- perception of romantic viability. I tend to think of the phenomenon as a whole as time elasticity, because it expands and contracts unpredictably but it tends to keep the generations in place more or less.

Along with romantic viability, I think another interesting correlate with female characters of a certain age is what I like to call the Lichtenstein Dilemma, based on his famous print

This occurs when certain character are serial romantics, but never procreate. For example, Felicia, whom in order to stay relevant in a multigenerational story, gets surrogate kids and long-lost daughters.  There are male versions as well (e.g. Carl). But soap writers have to jump through hoops to tell how a woman could have never spoken about having kids, and how those kids happened to move to the same town later in life.

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Was Dee Evans named after you-know-who or was that just a coincidence?

7 minutes ago, SFK said:

Was Dee Evans named after you-know-who or was that just a coincidence?

Of course, you are referencing Dee from What's Happening (jk)

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For a while there a lot of soaps went to the 'dressed in drag' plot for supposedly hilarious results.

 

I think fully half of  the time online I find something when I am looking for something else. Many of those times are rabbit holes. So this morning I was looking for one thing & I found another, an interesting picture of Jacquie Courtney that I know I've never seen before. 

8 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

For a while there a lot of soaps went to the 'dressed in drag' plot for supposedly hilarious results.

 

AW had Cass & Jake. GH had, I think, Jon Lindstrom & John J. York. I feel like I've seen John Callahan in drag. I know there are more. It was really a popular device. I'm not sure how serious most people took it. Stephen Schnetzer took it as part of his acting homework. He met with Dustin Hoffman's dresser for TOOTSIE & said that man taught him a bunch of tricks, like how to walk, to "caress the thighs", and SS then jumps up & illustrates the walk. It looks amazing with him in street clothes! If you can catch it, it's an entertaining part of an interview. He's talked about it several times. 

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