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Y&R: Week of May 04, 2009

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I'm curious, why do you feel she is necessary right now?

Easy.

Mackenzie's the moral barometer her peers can't be.

Colleen was too but the recast ruined that.

Amber is Chole's only real friend, I don't understand why they don't play that dynamic often on-screen for us.

Chloe & Amber aren't even really friends.

They just dislike the same people. :lol:

If you're young and on a soap it's all about you're love life.

Pretty much.

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Chloe and Amber mention this on Monday. It reminded me of why I love those two as possible BFF's. Although, having hated all the Mac's, I don't see the appeal of the character, she's never had anything personality wise to make up for her plain as dishwater looks. If Billy is going to worship over her, hopefully Chloe will find someone else to keep her warm at night.

I couldn't agree more.

Easy.

Mackenzie's the moral barometer her peers can't be.

Colleen was too but the recast ruined that.

Then what is Lily?

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A gospel-church-resounding Amen to that Dee. If you're young and on a soap it's all about you're love life. Mac has such an interesting back-story/history that could contain a year's worth of story that would have nothing to do with her love life. I'd love to see and find out how Darfour has really changed her. I'd like to see how she's made peace or NOT made peace with her mother and her family (we got Brock - use him!). I'd like to know her views on something other than deflecting people's "are you here because of Billy" remarks. So she's the heiress to a vast fortune and wants none of it - that's improbable, but fascinating to see IF we get something to inform us of her rationale. In short - I'd like to know who Mac is now before we shove her into Billy's bed.

I'm going to attempt to be as optimistic as brimike and expect TPTB to insert a few Mac monologues over the next few weeks or something to flesh her out because I really don't want someone else to have joined the cast yet again and become a complete waste of space/acid on my eyeballs. I really hope they don't fail with her as they did with Eva/Tammin.

Hell, if she has more chemistry with Cane and creates a compelling triangle with Lane, I'll take it. Anything that works over something forced that doesn't.

Easy.

Mackenzie's the moral barometer her peers can't be.

Colleen was too but the recast ruined that.

Not that I think so LOL, but I thought we've been fed to believe that Lily was the moral barometer that her peers can't be LMAO.

I don't see the point of creating a barometer on this show, though. Is it to re-register all that's been done over the past few years is a lot worse than what we've witnessed? If so, then that's lame. Everything is bland. Inserting a barometer to remind me how bad all these characters really are won't change my mind of how they really aren't that crazy.

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Uh oh! Pandora's box savagely opened....

LOL, I'm serious! Whether we agree or not has the show not sold her as sort of the moral barometer for the younger set? Both Lily and Devon actually?

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Not that I think so LOL, but I thought we've been fed to believe that Lily was the moral barometer that her peers can't be LMAO.

Yep lol!

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On the subject of Mac, I don't think we'll ever do any better than Rachel Kimsey in terms of acting ability and range. But AshBash's Mac was the one who consistently stayed in character and played Mac the way she was always intended to be - icy and unpleasant. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about Clementine at this point, but she's lightyears ahead of Kelly Kruger.

Colleen was too but the recast ruined that.

Colleen is a great character, but I have never viewed her as a moral barometer, regardless of the actress.

Fonseca's version smoked pot.

Leon's version schemed to get JT away from Mac and then slept with her teacher.

Sursok's version threw herself at Daniel to spite Amber.

Colleen is no Mac where morality is concerned, although she isn't completely devoid of morals like Amber or Chloe.

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Colleen is a great character, but I have never viewed her as a moral barometer, regardless of the actress.

Fonseca & Leon's Colleen's were very much moral barometers especially Fonseca.

Leon's Colleen was fine until TPTB had her cheat with Korbel.

And Tammin. Tammin is just Tammin. :ph34r:

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I think Clem is doing good as mac. Not great not fantastic.. but not bad or awful. Juts good, and thats OK. Because really, mac has always been an awful character IMHO. I dont htae her her so far this run, and i think thats all due to Clem but because it sure isnt the writing. The sudden "im gonna stay here for no reason" to the insta longing for Billy? WTF.

I love the ons creen relationship between mac & kay, and i think Clem & Cooper have great chem. I also really like Clem's chem with Billy Miller and with The Beastmaster. But id like to see her out and about more.

SOmething is missing for me with Mac tho, and its not the acting. Its in the writing.

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Fonseca & Leon's Colleen's were very much moral barometers especially Fonseca.

Leon's Colleen was fine until TPTB had her cheat with Korbel.

And Tammin. Tammin is just Tammin. :ph34r:

Weed smoking Colleen who got kicked out of school was a moral barometer? :huh:

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