I am really interested to know. I do not like Kay Alden, everyone knows that , and I'm not really all that much into Maria Arena's writing either...

Both have (strong) supporters here so perhaps this shall be interesting.

I voted for Maria. Because i do feel her Y&R is better run with better storylines. However how long has she been here? A little over a year? A year and a half? If i compare her first year and a half to Aldens first year and a half id actually go with Alden. However Aldens Y&R started to flounder a few years into it. I dont see Maria's doing that anytime soon.

Did Alden write the Tricia/Ryan/Victoria storyline? man, that was epic.

Someone hire rangethatrover and JackPeyton as executive creative consultants right this minute!!!

Hahaha. How did my name get involved before i even came into this thread?

Id be down. And to be quite honest, i think id be rather good.

I voted for Kay, bc while I might love the show right now, there are still Tyra/Neil/Karen/Devon/Ana mess and Lauren's absence.

Awwww, i love it when people mention my Lauren.

I <3 her.

This is really minor but why when I googled Kobe Beef, I got Japanese luxury?

Kay's ego is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge... One word: huuuuuge.

Plus, as I said several months ago: she seemed totally clueless about a whole lot of stuff in that interview. C-l-u-e-l-e-s-s.

Not to mention how she dimissed B&B as a "flashy" soap with very little substance in her MIT interview, yet months later, she came begging Bradley for a job on that very same show.

Not to mention how she dimissed B&B as a "flashy" soap with very little substance in her MIT interview, yet months later, she came begging Bradley for a job on that very same show.

Which goes to say tons about her, doesn't it?

This is really minor but why when I googled Kobe Beef, I got Japanese luxury?

Try K.ola Bo.of.

Edited April 4, 200916 yr by Sylph

Lauren swallowed this show whole during LML's reign of terror. And Tracey E. Bregman isn't a strong enough actress to carry a story of her own. And Michael and Lauren are boring as hell

:o :o

I...

I dont... I dont know what to say. And that my friends (and frienemies) is a first.

Okay. so i absorbed this. And im okay now.

I wouldnt say she swallowed it whole during LML's run. I mean, if she had i certainly would have loved it a lot more than i did. I do think LML loved Lauren -- and Tracey -- and im glad her character got out of that reign of terror rather unharmed unlike most. And i do think Tracey is more than able to carry a storyline.

I do agree about michael/lauren. He was ocne the ebst thing to happen to her but i now view him as the worse. I would love if she had a steamy affair with J.T. and became a strong fierce business women again. Id also love her son Scotty to come back. Lauren deserves to be more than a prop for the Fishers/Baldwins

Tracey should've signed her ass a contract a long time ago if she wanted the writer's to take Lauren more seriously. But then again, even though Lauren knows many characters on the show, she has very little strong ties to anyone outside of the Fisher-Bladwins at the moment, friends aren't the same as family, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Kay is Mother Teresa, nor am I saying she doesn't have an ego...she's rich, she's won several Emmys, she's a writer...of course she has an ego. I've just found her nicer than I've found MAB to be in my dealings with them. They're both good people, both solid, both dependable, I just find Kay nicer...I think MAB is a 'slow to warm up' kinda gal.

In all honesty, I think it's like comparing Apples to Apples...they're very similar people who, in my opinion, write very similar/solid storylines.

Which goes to say tons about her, doesn't it?

Something about Alden seems very off. She goes on and on about learning for Bill Bell and being his closest protege, yet it's never really shown in her work.

But that MIT interview was a HUGE source of stupidity and contradictions from her.

Tracey should've signed her ass a contract a long time ago if she wanted the writer's to take Lauren more seriously. But then again, even though Lauren knows many characters on the show, she has very little strong ties to anyone outside of the Fisher-Bladwins at the moment, friends aren't the same as family, IMO.

Why? They took her seriously for years when she was recurring. It wasnt until she became a prop in the fishers clan that they let the character flounder.

You are right about family vs friendship on Y&R,a nd IMHO thats a shame. I love friendships more than anything on soaps and Y&R has some of th best ones, they just dont play them much anymore.

Why? They took her seriously for years when she was recurring. It wasnt until she became a prop in the fishers clan that they let the character flounder.

She was only recurring when she returned in 2001 and she was nothing more than a prop for teens then. Both Jack Smith and LML tried to get her to sign a contract, and she refused. I'm sure MAB is willing to offer her a contract too, but the ball is in Tracey and her agent's court.

Lauren didn't get more to do until she was involved with Michael, and even then, it was always about Michael and his family.

Since Tracey has a long affliation with the show, she must cost a lot more than most recuring players on the show. Since soap budgets are striking, they're obviously going to give more priority to people under contract, since they're obligated to use those actors and pay them, which they don't have to do with Tracey.

Edited April 4, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I...

I dont... I dont know what to say. And that my friends (and frienemies) is a first.

Okay. so i absorbed this. And im okay now.

I wouldnt say she swallowed it whole during LML's run. I mean, if she had i certainly would have loved it a lot more than i did. I do think LML loved Lauren -- and Tracey -- and im glad her character got out of that reign of terror rather unharmed unlike most. And i do think Tracey is more than able to carry a storyline.

I do agree about michael/lauren. He was ocne the ebst thing to happen to her but i now view him as the worse. I would love if she had a steamy affair with J.T. and became a strong fierce business women again. Id also love her son Scotty to come back. Lauren deserves to be more than a prop for the Fishers/Baldwins

Lauren did not swallow the show. IMO, that's nonsense.

Yes, she was a presence, but most of what she did was stuff I loved. (E.g., Lauren-Michael-Phyllis-Nick friendship, playing charades..).

She can't be blamed for either Sheila or Pheila's last returns...and both (esp. the latter) were brief.

Tracy is amazing, and I'll take all we can get.

DaytimeFan, you had "dealings" with Kay and Maria?

Edited April 4, 200916 yr by Sylph

DaytimeFan, you had "dealigns" with Kay and Maria?

Yessir. I've met them both several times and like them both as a result, despite their humanity (ie: ego).

Lauren did not swallow the show. IMO, that's nonsense.

Yes, she was a presence, but most of what she did was stuff I loved. (E.g., Lauren-Michael-Phyllis-Nick friendship, playing charades..).

She can't be blamed for either Sheila or Pheila's last returns...and both (esp. the latter) were brief.

Well it was stuff you loved, but stuff that bored the hell out of some of us!

I agree, JP about making Lauren into a feiry Mrs. Robinson-esque SLUT.

Next time MAB throws a big bash at her place we might meet! Shhh, don't tell anyone!