The Politics Thread

[NothinButAttitude]

Someone come and get La Strasser. 

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[Gray Bunny]

In another post, she flat out said the "assassination attempt" was staged... 

[Vee]

One of our first post-Sunday polls:

 

 

I want to find a non-crass way to say this, and maybe there isn't one. But I will say that in addition to the absolute horror of this for women in Iowa, IMO this could not come at a worse moment for Trump/Vance.

 

 

I mean, I wasn't gonna say it but it was my first thought in the immediate moment. God bless Robin.

[Vee]

 

 

[Maxim]

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What a speech! WOW! Stunning and spectacular! I was tearing up!  

[Vee]

 

 

[Khan]

When I watched the footage, I said, "There's something a little too 'Taxi Driver' about this."

(IYKYK)

I don't understand why we must tear down women (and WOC, in particular) who use sex as a form of currency.  Like, women shouldn't be allowed to exploit their assets in order to get ahead?  If anything, the fact that, time and time again, women are reduced to using their so-called "feminine wiles" in order to advance themselves in business and other worlds that are dominated by white men should be an indictment against the system itself, not against the women who often have no other choice.

This makes me feel very nostalgic for KNOTS LANDING again for some reason.

Edited July 23, 2024 by Khan

[Vee]

Also intriguing (Biden was down by 5 there):

What's more compelling re: this issue IMO is Kamala's work on behalf of sex workers for years back in the day. The horseshoe left tried to make this an issue the other night implying she was a trafficker and got heavily blown out by the rest of Twitter over it.

Edited July 23, 2024 by Vee

[Khan]

Yeah, I think I read something in reference to that last night.  Apparently, SF law enforcement officials were upset with Kamala Harris for years, because she, as D.A., would turn loose sex workers they had caught in undercover stings?

Ultimately, I believe most who go into that side of the sex industry do so due to pressure or out of necessity, and not necessarily because they genuinely want to make a living off their bodies, so to speak*.  So, I can't say I understand law enforcement officials' frustration there, lol.

(And just where do I get such a notion, you ask?  Two words: Karen. Wolek.)

Edited July 23, 2024 by Khan

[Vee]

 

[DRW50]

Enten seems to have some personal dislike for Vance based on his tone, which makes me wonder just how vile he must be in person.

You can see just who he is meant to appeal to in stories like this. I wonder how much Trump wishes he had chosen Tim Scott. He never would as he won't want a black man near such a high level of power.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2024/07/23/jd-vance-rebuffed-tribal-concerns-insulted-indigenous-peoples-day/74455037007/

[Juliajms2]

Many of these girls are running away from home because of sexual abuse.

As for using feminine whiles, I had to do it one time just to get pain relief during child birth I kid you not. Not exactly in a sexual way, but the nurses told me the anesthesiologist was egotistical and a misogynist.  I had to flatter him and fluff up his ego to get what I need in time. It still makes me sick to think about it nine years later. Sometimes a woman's gotta do what a woman's gotta do. So far every criticism of Harris just makes me like her and relate to her more.

 

 

[DRW50]

Thank you for listing his credentials. My main worry is if they just choose for optics but have someone who is steamrolled over by Vance because he is so focused on the facade of trying to get bipartisan support which I'm not sure is there anymore (I am not entirely sure how many of the voters they think he might reach who aren't already voting for the ticket will get over the sexism or racism innate in their decision). I think there are a few similar options who might have more of a reach beyond bio, but admittedly it's going to be tough no matter who she chooses. 

[janea4old]

Yeah I hear you on that.  Mark Kelly seems like a wonderful human, but I have no idea what he is like as a public speaker.

One list of potential VPs mentioned Minnesota governor Tim Walz.  I hadn't heard of him before.  His wiki page makes him sound competent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz
But can he truly contribute to the ticket to win? 

Edited July 24, 2024 by janea4old

[DramatistDreamer]

^^ At least that concern sounds more measured than those that claim that because Kelly is bald he won’t be a good VP candidate because Americans don’t like bald men.

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Did anyone read Hillary Clinton’s Op-Ed article today? It’s probably the only article worth reading in the Times these days.