Members Max Posted May 9, 2012 Members Share Posted May 9, 2012 That was always so unfair to blame gay marriage as the reason for Kerry's defeat. The real reason, as you stated, was the fact that he ran a terrible campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wingwalker Posted May 9, 2012 Members Share Posted May 9, 2012 While I don't think this will do much nationally. Those who like Obama will like him more and those who hate him will hate him more, I think it could impact a few swing states like North Carolina and Virginia, but Obama could lose both and still win. Yeah, the gay marriage wasn't why Kerry lost, it was his awful campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 9, 2012 Members Share Posted May 9, 2012 I'll never forget even reading some very liberal political blogs in late 2004 and seeing threads like "Democrats must throw gays under the bus." It's a good reminder of who is truly important in the party. If the economy keeps sputtering along and Romney continues to have the money and the media adoration, I don't think Obama has any real shot, especially since his campaign is so very tone deaf. But I do think that this guarantees gay marriage will get a lot of the blame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 When the POTUS changes his mind, he flip flops. When Romney changes his mind (which is every 45 minutes) he's "seeing thing differently". It's May. the election's in November. I wish I was as clairvoyant as many others who are calling this thing. LOL! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Romney's changes have been more dramatic, he's a completely different person than he was ten years ago, which is a lot different than Obama upgrading his position on one issue. Romney's favorables are horrible, double digits under water, that's all I need to say about what the potential outcome of the election will be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 The polls show the race tied. The media and the big money elites have too much invested in Romney to let him lose. It will be very close. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wingwalker Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 National polls don't really matter, it's how they are doing in the individual states. Right now, Obama is 7 points ahead in Ohio, 8 ahead in Virginia, ahead 5 in Florida. And actually believe it or not, since Obama is ahead in Iowa, Nevada, CO, NM, it's possible for Obama to loose Ohio, Virginia, Florida, and North Carolina and STILL have 272 electoral votes, 2 more than needed to win. Obama has several paths to victory, Romney really only has 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yes, the state polls are where the picture of the race is at. National polls tend be less stable than the state ones and really count less since electoral votes decided the election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Obama will have just as much money financing his election as Romney, and probably a lot more. I read last week Obama has something like $100 million stockpiled already and it is only May. Romney has something like $10 million I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 The main money will be coming from the Super PACS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Mitt Romney's prep school days. http://www.washingto...ry.html?hpid=z2 I think they are going to get a lot of backlash over this article. Perhaps that was the point - to show that they are liberal and out to get noble, long-suffering Mitt. Who knows. I also think that his alleged behavior in this article will likely get him MORE support, not less. A lot of people just love this type of stuff. Edited May 10, 2012 by CarlD2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 It's like the Arizona shootings never happened. http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/05/10/482222/sarah-steelman-defends-kill-comment/?mobile=nc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Romney is now grasping at straws trying to make Time artcile about him go away. And, for those who say that the liberal media are pciking on him once again.....was the media so liberal when a film clip of the POTUS started being circulated with him giving thanks to a professor of his, AND THE WAS PAST OFF AS CURRENT? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 That is the republican main argument: that whether an item is true is immaterial, but is it a liberal saying it? Well who cares if it is a liberal saying it or not if it is true? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 12, 2012 Members Share Posted May 12, 2012 Now he's backing away from the gay adoption comments he made just yesterday: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57433104-503544/romney-backs-away-from-gay-adoptions/?tag=exclsv 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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