OLTL Discussion: Week of December 1-5

[rhinohide]

I hope you're mistaken (or it's wishful thinking as you suggested), because if Jess/Brody/Gigi/Rex are the new backbone of the show, I am not long for this show. Rex and Gigi in particular are incredibly weak IMO and have no real ties to the core veteran characters to provide that compliment you speak of. And I think your happiness over Natalie's backburner status is premature.

[rangethatrover]

RHINOHIDE! You and I are the absolute polar opposites!!! LOL It always makes me laugh.

[Toups]

Even though I hate John, I kinda liked what he did to Todd.

Glad to see Tea again! She looks really good with long hair (wasn't a big fan of the very short hair).

[Cheap21]

Dorian is absolutely despicable! I cant believe she attacked Marty the way she did. That was beyond vile and disgusting and she needed a Viki slap for it.

OLTL has a big problem and its that its filled with a bunch of useless characters. With budget cuts and the economy down, they could sure trim the cast. Noelle, Mo, Vanessa, Lola, Antonio, Layla, Cris, Sarah and Talia (love the last 2, but still pointless) all need to get the boot. They do not add anything to the show. Way too much dead weight around

[rhinohide]

I know! We're becoming predictable. LOL.

It's even worse! You've gotten inside my head. I find myself thinking just before I press the ff button "Rangethatrover is going to love this." LOL.

[rhinohide]

They've been doing that for years Cheap. Then they'll cull a few characters and I think they're getting back on track, and all of the sudden they'll bring on five new ones that add nothing. IMO you add to the cast for one reason and one reason only -- to drive story. You bring on someone to act as a catalyst for the main characters. Overtime, they may work their way into the framework of the show (ie., Rex), but OLTL always has way too many characters that seem to serve no purpose. I get that my favorites aren't necessarily everybody elses, and I know that some of the characters I don't care for are popular with others. But more importantly, I recognize that some of the characters I don't care for actually create story for those I do (as well as drive their own stories), and that they are necessary. But there are way too many characters on OLTL that do nothing but sit around and act as sounding boards, and there are whole subplots going on right now that just aren't very impactful and don't get any screentime anyway. They just get stuck in the middle of an episode here and there.

[Vee]

I don't have a problem seeing Noelle and Moe or other recurring characters (Carlotta, etc). They're recurring, I doubt we will suddenly be deluged with a story about Noelle's secret daughter. If I was going to bitch about Noelle and Moe I might as well say dump Roxy or something, and what purpose would that serve? As for Antonio and Talia, I like 'em. And I doubt Vanessa will hang around.

[rhinohide]

Well we saw quite a bit of them the last time they were on (1968). And I don't think I am really bitching about Noelle and Moe specifically. The way they used Dr. Joplin and Janet was effective IMO. But now they're gone. And I am a HUGE Layla/Tika Sumpter fan, and as much as I hate to admit, my complaint extends to her. Use the talent they have. I guess I am just bitching in general. LOL. I don't have a problem with Moe and Noelle, anymore than I do Vanessa and Lola, or many other examples.

[All My Shadows]

My problem with Moe and Noelle is that when they show up, it's always the saaaaaaame daaaaaaamn thiiiiiiiiiiing. All the *wink wink, nudge nudge* comments about making paaaah, how they used to feud by now they're lovin, and all that. I give props for having them do something this time around, with the whole thing with Moe working for Dorian and such. Roxy has a place and does things when she shows up. 90% of the time, she's comic relief, but she also has dramatic moments, moments where she actually matters and has a purpose. Moe and Noelle, so far, have dropped in to spread the giggles for a few days, that's about it. If RC wants them around, he needs to get to work developing them.

[rhinohide]

Whaaaa? You forget that last time they added some romance. We saw Jeremiah and Rosa fall in love, and Moe and Noelle became engaged. Didja swoooooon? . . . me neither.

They're gimmicky. Although I didn't mind them so much today. The scenes with Roxy explaining Llanview's history were funny, and who else is she going to explain Llanview's history to (in her own inimitable fashion)?

[jinx_avery]

Marty's been begging for the TRUTH since she's returned from the dead, but only wants to hear the sugarcoated version told by Nora and Cole where she's the perfectly perfect Saint of Llanview. She can't handle it when someone like Dorian tells her how the cow ate the cabbage and that's the version she needs to hear if she's ever to regain what little common sense she once had.

[kelly1142]

I actually TIVO'd this show for the first time since, well I guess Asa's funeral. Before that, it was 2002!

Welcome back Tea! Hope you are written as the take-no-prisoners attorney that showed up in Llanview in the first place! And not because I have any love for this version of Todd (that's my one stumbling block lol...), but because anything is better than the wimpy Tea who sewed up the picture of Blair and the kids and handed it back to Todd on that stupid island lol.

[rhinohide]

You have to love Dorian. Marty's sordid past is all but forgotton.

[MichaelGL]

I dunno, alot of the characters you listed have just arrived, so their full story potential has yet to hit the screens yet. Like Vanessa and Lola, their story is still in the early stages, still unfolding. It's so obvious that there is more to Vanessa than what meets the eye, so I don't expect her to staying too long on the canvas. As for Lola, she could easily leave, it all depends on what RC has in store for these two. As for Noelle and Mo, well like Vanessa and Lola they've just decided to move to Llanview, their story has yet to start. I believe that RC will show Moe and Noelle discussing more than pie and etc. A part of me is thinking that RC might do a Dorian/Moe/Noelle triangle. So it won't all be about pies and foods with french names.

As for the Vegas and their women, to each their own. I think Antonio and Talia are good when their not shoved down our throats and are useful storywise as cops determined to get to the truth. And isn't Sarah's portrayer leaving the show?

I do agree though that Layla is pretty useless.

[rhinohide]

If you're right and it gives Dorian a story -- I am all for it. Although the prospect of Dorian competing for Moe's affections vs. Noelle kind of creeps me out. It makes me think Dorian's saying "Viki went out and found herself a blue collar guy and look how well that's working out for her."

As for Antonio and Talia. I like them fine. I don't object to them at all. In fact I liked them a lot in the beginning, but there's a balance to be struck between shoving them down our throats and not giving us enough story and play for them to keep us engaged. I am leaning toward the latter right now. It seems they throw in a love scene every now and they because they are pretty, and they're the resident cops, which if you think about it could be any old dayplayer.

And I am just sick about Layla. But I honestly can't figure out how to fix it, or where she fits.