"If you care about soaps, this story is way, way beyond disgusting. And if you are still trying to figure exactly out why they are dying, come with me and have a long look at this story in the context of soap history....."

http://www.marlenadelacroix.com

Luke and Laura have had sex many a time since the rape, and have children but they're a super couple..but whatevs. Laura wasn't even an amnesiac when she fell in love with Luke either...

Edited November 8, 200817 yr by Antoyne

People are way too sensitive. Soaps should just stick to WTD? triangles/quads, and rivalries.

I think that's a cop out. Some may be way too sensitive, but with a storyline like this, I don't think something like that matters, it's a HUGE slap in the face to Marty, her history, and Todd is beyond redemption.

Ish like this is why soaps are dying. Why do these writers NOT learn, why do they keep making the same mistakes over and over(this goes for ALL soaps)

I agree that stories like these are what kill soaps. I'm not sure OLTL can come back from this. I have no clue how the character of Todd could. In a year with Ron Carlivati we have seen both the best promise for the future of daytime, and a glimpse at the nadir. I can only pray the former wins out now that this has been done. It can never be erased, from my mind or his reputation, but it can be mitigated over time by solid work. I'm really disgusted, though. Just sick about it. I haven't a clue how the same HW who wrote the wonderful love stories for Viki and Charlie and Jared and Natalie, the spellbinding Buchanan corporate intrigue with Dorian and Nash's death, the surprisingly fresh reunion for Todd and Blair and the loving family episodes during last year's holiday season could write something like this.

My only silver linings right now are spoilers indicating that

Marty attempts to seek justice, and makes sure to use the morning after pill.

Edited November 8, 200817 yr by Vee

Marty has amnesia though, so how does this destroy the character's history exactly? The fact that the audience is so repulsed by this story actually ties into Marty's history, because we saw just how horrific that gang rape was. No one is sugar coating anything here. Stories that destroy soaps are Victor Lord coming back from the dead. Or, Erica's unabortion. This doesn't even come close to that. If anything at all, this story is ruining the character of Todd Manning. My main gripe with OLTL is not that the stories stink per se... it's more the horrible acting, sub-par production, and mediocre scripts that makes this show crumble.

I generally think that for the most part, the acting, scripts and production are (usually) quite good. But this storyline has become truly atrocious and has dragged many of those elements into the gutter along with the overall premise.

I generally think that for the most part, the acting, scripts and production are (usually) quite good. But this storyline has become truly atrocious and has dragged many of those elements into the gutter along with the overall premise.

Amen.

According to DC, the Tarty storyline was Frons's idea and not RC's.

According to DC, the Tarty storyline was Frons's idea and not RC's.

DC is hardly the most reliable source, but I do believe Frons had his dirty little hands in this story.

Edited November 8, 200817 yr by detroitpiston

I believe you are right, Detroit.

I have to wonder what the female writers on staff felt about this storyline....

Well Elizabeth Page did write the episode where Todd and Marty have sex, so who knows.

I don't know, I think I'm gonna disagree with Marlena on this one. I don't think soaps are dying just for this one reason.

Everyone had their hands in this story- it was collaborative. I don't feel sorry for anyone involved- not writers, producers, breakdown writers, actors, directors....

Personally, I think it's much ado about nothing. People were saying soaps were dying before this storyline. My ceiling didn't fall in when it was on.

According to DC, the Tarty storyline was Frons's idea and not RC's.

LOL I thought that was OBVIOUS. Frons has to get his rocks off somehow ::gag::

Wouldn't it be great if this is what finally got Frons FIRED