Now I want to hear people say how Carlivati is a gifted, marvelous writer who writes these great, amazing stories. It took him just a few months to visit the depths of terrible storytelling.

Now lets be fair. A crappy writer is a consistent one. Ron was great, now its sort of crappy, we have to see whats next. If its great, he resumes title one, if its crap, then he goes into the abyss with all the others.

Now lets be fair. A crappy writer is a consistent one. Ron was great, now its sort of crappy, we have to see whats next. If its great, he resumes title one, if its crap, then he goes into the abyss with all the others.

I totally agree!

And if he sucks, you can remove the avatar!

Edited August 19, 200817 yr by Sylph

I totally agree!

And if he sucks, you can remove the avatar!

LOL

I totally agree!

And if he sucks, you can remove the avatar!

This coming from the man who has Brad Bell representing him. I'll bite. If the verdict comes out saying Ron sucks, and I'm not digging his work, the avatar is gone.

This coming from the man who has Brad Bell representing him. I'll bite. If the verdict comes out saying Ron sucks, and I'm not digging his work, the avatar is gone.

Don't forget to take into account your I'm Calling You Out! thread.

Don't forget to take into account your I'm Calling You Out! thread.

That is so true, and oddly enough, the subject of my calling out is being called one of the greatest, most complex stories on a soap in years. (See OLTL thread)

That is so true, and oddly enough, the subject of my calling out is being called one of the greatest, most complex stories on a soap in years. (See OLTL thread)

I wouldn't exactly call it such, but hey - I accept your opinion.

I wouldn't exactly call it such, but hey - I accept your opinion.

Can you clarify? You don't agree with what I am saying other people are calling it, because I think it's crap.

I don't like it either.

I thought you were calling it one of the best stories in years.

I don't like it either.

I thought you were calling it one of the best stories in years.

Oh hell no....Remember "Carlivati, I'm calling you out!!!!"

People trash him cause he's a HACK, he is a big reason that Days was in such an awful state for YEARS

I'm halfway between you and Toups. :lol:

I often think of JER as the "Kevin Williamson" of daytime.

For those who don't know, Williamson originally was known for writing the first "Scream" movie (a mighty brilliant screenplay on MANY levels, IMHO)

He then created Dawson's Creek. A successful show in its own right, but certainly not innovative.

He then went on to do... minor projects that got little to no recognition.

I'm not putting Reilly OR Williamson down. They both had their day in the sun... they're just one trick ponies that showed, placed, and won in their time. I feel that way about Tarentino as well. In all honesty, as good as some of his later projects might have been, they're all just variations on a theme (that theme being "Pulp Fiction")

It doesn't mean they're hacks. Not at all. They just peaked really early, and everything since has been a pale imitation.

When I look back on Reilly's contribution to Days (and I'm talking JUST Days, not all of daytime... I'll never believe Reilly wrote anything thinking "I'm going to change daytime forever (evil laugh)), I see a lot of positive. As much as I bitched at the time, the Exorcist story, while nowhere near original, was the only saving grace of the Summer of OJ. The Kristen/Susan story, while it was a blatant rip-off of Nadine/Bridget on GL (when JER was writing) was still pretty amazing when all was said and done. (Mainly because of Eileen Davidson's performance... and let's face it, had Marlena Evans EVER had a female rival, besides Sam for a millisecond and Stella Lombard for not much more? And no, I don't count St. Isabella)

And I feel like everything since has been JER trying to hold on to the fact that HE AND HE ALONE got daytime noticed in spite of the pre-emptions that summer of the murder trial. I don't think he expected that, and I don't think he wants to live up to it. But the way it played out, that's what happened. For better or worse.

Edited August 20, 200817 yr by brimike

The thing what I hate is people trash JER like he is horrid. He actually is talented. His early stint on GL was excellent. Everyone credits Nancy Curlee which is totally untrue. Curlee was a good force but Reilly engineered alot of those storylines. The man has made NBC an absolute fortune. His DAYS 90's run was a ratings smash. When he took DAYS over in 1992 it was in the ratings cellar and then within a few years the ratings skyrocketed. I remember during the Eileen Davidson storyline climax in 1997, that DAYS was close to beating Y&R. The man made Corday and NBC millions beyond belief. His second DAYS run was not as successful. Mainly because he was head writing two shows and both suffered. Also Corday and Reilly butted heads. Corday and Reilly have an icy relationship. Corday was furious back in 1997 when Reilly at the top of the ratings game decided to leave DAYS to create Passions. He was just absolutely furious over what happened. Corday DID NOT want Reilly back in 2003, he wanted Higley as head writer. NBC practically told Corday that if he did not rehire Reilly, they would not renew DAYS. Ratings at the time were hitting all time lows. Reilly during his first year did great numbers during the stalker storyline but after that things went downhill. I think JER purposely wrote the show bad because of his bad relations with Corday. In 2006, it was getting so bad that Corday pressured NBC to dump Reilly from DAYS. This time the numbers were not good so he had more reasons. Reilly had an iron clad contract for like 5 years which Corday is paying off. Reilly will NEVER return to DAYS ever. I think Reilly is done with NBC but do not count him out of daytime. He is the only head writer that has ever skyrocketed ratings to the stratesphere. Back in 1997, DAYS was the king of daytime. Reilly was the main reason they kept AW so long. Believe NBC wanted to cancel AW for years but with DAYS amassing so much revenue they could afford it. Of course he created Passions and they cancelled AW. Anyways I am sure Reilly is taking a break. I have a weird suspicion Frons will hire him as a consultant. Frons is a fan of Reilly. The problem is Reilly is not cheap. Reilly is very very rich, he is a multi multi millionaire. He does not need to work right now. If any ABC show I could see Reilly going to would be OLTL but as a consultant not head writer.

LOVE this post!!!!!!

I agree with Rakesh. Great post, Jonny.

JER is the defination of a HACK writer.

Was he at one time good? Yes.

Has he been good in the past 10 years? No.

He was never good. That's the problem. Sensationalism does not equal good storytelling.