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And I going to come right up against you. I think it needs to be completely reinvented. I don't think it has to be five days a week. I think daytime could go a a weekly format just like primetime with a 2-hour show every day Mon.-Thurs. (AMC/Mon, OLTL/Tues, GH/Wed, new show/Thurs, new show or "week in review" clip show/Fri.) That leaves an extra hour in the schedule for whatever game show/talk show/reality train wreck the networks may want to put on or they can free it up to affiliates for syndication. That immediately ups the production values because now they're producing 2 hours/week instead of 5. That gives us better writing (what decent writer want to come into a genre where their goal is to crank out as much as they possibly can?) and better performances (more rehearsal time and the chance for retakes). That will immediately lead to the other things you mention: "new types of stories and certain elements that could change the way a story is told - types of shots, different editing methods etc."

Right now, soaps are the fast food of the entertainment industry. How many people do you know aspire to work in fast food? It's something 1.) where people get their start and get the hell out; 2.) the do to pay the bills until something better comes along and/or subsidize another project i.e. another business they want to start or; 3.) the lucky ones end up owning their very own McDonalds but they sure didn't plan on that.

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ITA! I just couldn't agree more. PSNS is exactly what it is. The problem with other soaps doing the freaky, crazy [!@#$%^&*] is that that is NOT what they are. DAYS isn't supposed to be filled with sci-fi, supernatural stuff. It's not. It went decades without having that. Same with all of the other soaps. PSNS debut with those intentions, to be the "out there" soap, and even when its own die-hard fans were upset with it, they could still at least say that the show was still truer to itself than any other soap on the air. I think PSNS is just the type of show that you either get or you don't.

They are/were many writers who could easily turn out amazing material five days a week, and they did it for years. If a writer doesn't have the chops to do that, then they shouldn't consider working in daytime. It's not the genre's fault that most writers today can't handle it.

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I don't think a single show can draw away audiences, especially to all the other soaps. If you want to be honest and think about what kind of stories gets soaps mocked, check out on You Tube Carol Burnett's As The Stomach Turns. It isn't mermaids and magic that has been the sticking point for the masses, it's been the very thing soap fans insist on. Check out Susan Lucci and Phil Hartman in "All My Luggage".

I really don't think the non-soap watcher draws much of distinction btw evil twins, and evil mermaids.

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I don't think there was anything wrong with Passions. It was campy and wacky but it was also consistent and at times showed a trace of heart - Timmy :( The only thing wrong with it was that viewers didn't always "get it."

As for new blood... I'd love to see Silvio Horta (Ugly Betty) and Marc Cherry (Desperate Housewives) try out a daytime soap. Horta would be great for All My Children, Cherry could do Days of Our Lives or As the World Turns. Jon Robert Baitz would be wonderful for Guiding Light.

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You always inspire me.

I had an idea today, actually. Let's accept your thesis that nostalgia exists. Okay, so if you fail to honor it (GL), your audience gets pissed off. (Although, looking at the numbers, GL is NOT falling faster than the other shows).

But you want to try reinvention.

I think what I might have tried is "classic GL" on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Then "New Light" could have aired Tuesdays and Thursdays. Classic GL could use mostly legacy characters and veterans; New Light could use the young characters and newbies and what have you. The two shows could be fairly separate, but there should be ONE huge (and compelling) umbrella story that always bridges the two shows. Over time, if both shows are acceptable, you slowly wean people from classic GL. Maybe you phase it down to two days a week.

This lets the people who like "classic Coke" continue to feel like their product still exists, while those who might be attracted to "new Coke"--who find the old formula too staid--have something too.

Moreover, the two shows both require less than a five-day commitment...which may make them more palatable.

Stupid idea? It is different from a spinoff, because it is really about one show morphing into the other in a single time slot.

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I don't know about this Mark, simply for the fact that there is a place on a show for newbies and vets alike provided they interact regularly and one group is not subjugated for the other. For example, GL's Kelly was introduced as Ed's godson. Nola was brought in at the tail end of the Roger Thorpe storyline. And so on.

It just seems this idea would isolate the groups even more than they are now and that's not what is needed.

I'd have to agree with AMS that the key to daytime's survival is diversity. There's no reason why Passions and Guiding Light or Another World could not co-exist. The problem with both Gloria Monty's original run on GH and JER's run on DAYS is that because they were successful, other soaps just had to copy them endlessly. There are now, it seems four shows on the air: CBS, ABC, NBC, and GL (simply because it IS so much different these days). There should be something for everyone to watch. PSNS for the younger crowd. GL and ATWT for the old. GH for those who like medical-driven storytelling. OLTL for fans of a more gritty and urban soap. B&B for camp drama. And so forth. Those in charge need to realize that each show will naturally have a different audience. Not every soap is going to have a high 18-49 demo but that's ok. Because if you reach out to more people, you diversify your portfolio in terms of ads and can court a higher number of companies to advertise with you.

Furthermore, there's no reason why Ellen Wheeler's re-invention of soap opera couldn't be packaged as an original soap concept. I think if it were not a classic soap with tons of baggage that was "cancelled," daytime fans might have taken to it a bit better. Schedule some "new" format soaps and see how they do, but realize that they are going to court a much different audience than the traditional soaps.

In a word, re-invention may be needed, but re-invention of the current mindset of those in charge. Am I being to idealistic? Probably. But I think this might be our best shot.

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Well, I think he wanted that kind of consistency. Although in general, there were fewer writers per soap & the HW, if they wanted to, could do most if not all of their own writing. At that time at P&G the HW worked for the show/P&G and any other writers worked for the HW. So, he also was working hard, although it didn't seem to daunt him to do so, and not having to share the money.

I agree that Passions should never have existed & once it didn't knock everyone's socks off in its first 6 months, it should have been treated as the experiment that it was. But, that doesn't give network people a way to save face. They were really convinced that it was going to quickly rocket up to 2nd or 3rd ranking.

But, NBC wanted to cancel Another World anyway. There were numerous reasons that they did what they did in the order they did. For their new show they wanted a launch date that could take advantage of the Olympics. With Sunset Beach they made a deal whereby everyone would take massive cuts to run another 6 months to the end of the year. And, Goutman had many demoralized fans & actors feeling like their show was being given back some of its ambience & style.

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Unfortunately, copycatting is very prevalent, in daytime, in primetime, in soda makers, in cleaning products, in cars, in institutions & major corporations no matter what 'product' they are churning out.

But, I think it did hurt soaps when they began to lose individual indentities, styles, ambiances, what kind of conflict tended to play out there. Some soaps had a stronger history with social issues storylines, some often had conflict between classes, ... and so on. Once you blur all that & have no show retaining any of those other kinds of conflict, every show has doctors, lawyers, parents, children, health tragedies, paternity issues, weddings that do or don't happen, sex instead of romance, adultery, you know those soap opera staples. I consider it a part of sick soap syndrome that show identities did begin to blur so, but I also think that some people, say on my short list, tended more to flatten that kind of show affect out, so they began to 'seem' like each other.

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And, I could go on & on about this, but I won't, but to a great degree shows teach audiences what they are & so what to expect from other shows in their genre. The form of Passions set in a small town, with diversity in its characters, with multigenerational characters had similarities to a soap opera in set up, but what it taught its audiences to expect was indeed a mockery of soaps & the anti-soap. And, it's not as if it was the glorious farce (which is difficult) of a Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman.

In some ways it may be because of Passions that daytime 'missed a generation' as someone said here recently.

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This is one of the potentials I've gnashed my teeth at for a long while & it has one problem that is huge & that is that everyone would instantly take a huge cut in pay while the number of people on contract for any given show would still have to be reduced to go back to the age-old status where people were on recurring, not on contract. And, that was a long time ago & I don't see today's economics working out for that many actors. Plus, the money that would pay the entire tech staff would also be in trouble because, say, for ABC's soaps, the East Coast people would work for 2 shows & the West Coast for one, going by what we now have & not knowing what they'd add. One repercussion is that you would probably quickly lose most of your longest-term vets.

Of course, there's no way of knowing if it would lend itself to 2 hour long shows anyway.

And, aside from however one could imagine solving these problems, personally, catch-up shows simply do not make sense to me. Avid fans don't like them because they're a waste of their time. And, so fans who do partake of them likely are simply being relieved of any need to actually watch their shows.

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I know many veteran soap fans, including me, who completely got what Passions was meant to be about, what it started as & how it did change. And, we completely understood the concept of starting a new show instead of changing one that is ongoing. That's where you run into the unique asset (or problem according to some suits) that US daytime soaps have gone on & on & on rather than having relatively short lifespans like telenovelas do or like, for example, Babylon 5 did. Passions had a relatively short lifespan & never went through any changing of hands so it's not surprising it hadn't yet had that kind of change hit it. PC had a short lifespan & it tried to be too many things even though in an anthology series of arcs it could be different things, until they got stuck on some things & wanted to repeat them.

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Well, for starters, after the NuCoke debacle, the real pre-NuCoke 'classic' drink never existed again. The 'so-called' Classic Coke formula is actually a compromise formula.

And, I think soap fans are savvy enough to know when they're being manipulated in the way you describe.

Last but not least, I think it is far from economically feasible. But, interesting.

And, thank you for noting GL's numbers vis a vis other show numbers at this time.

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QUOTE (Donna B @ Aug 16 2008, 03:25 AM)
I agree that Passions should never have existed & once it didn't knock everyone's socks off in its first 6 months, it should have been treated as the experiment that it was.

I find it a crime against humanity that this soap was allowed to spend millions and millions of dollars each year and other soaps weren't even allowed to step foot on TV. A crime. So much money so badly spent.

If NBC wanted a successful soap opera, they should have allowed Bill Bell or Agnes Nixon to create one in the 80s. Not Jim Reilly.

BTW, I posted about legacy of lunacy here. :lol:

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TARA MCDONALD    Executive Assistant    2008 EELS: SPECTACULAR GIRL     2010 SPACE CAPONE: WHY YOU WANNA SAY GOOD NIGHT? 2012         MOVED A CASTLE FROM THE ISLES                 MICHAEL SWAN       Also Credited as Winter Redding                  6/11/1948 - Present EXECUTIVE SUITE             Foreman    1976 STOP SUSAN WILLIAMS      Jack Schoengarth    1979 FALCON CREST (UNAIRED PILOT)  Richard Channing   1981 DAYS OF OUR LIVES     Frank Royce    1983 SANTA BARBARA    Doctor     1984-85 RITUALS      FBI Agent         1985 THE COLBYS     Unknown Role    1986 AS THE WORLD TURNS     Duncan McKechnie   5/2/1986 - 10/10/1995; August -September 2001;  April  2002                                      Angus McKechnie (FB) 1986-7 ONE LIFE TO LIVE   Bishop John Carpenter    January 1996 - April 1997 THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL    Adam Alexander/Myles Fairchild  10/21/1998 - 3/3/2000; January 2001; December 2002; January 2003 GUIDING LIGHT     Brad Green    2003 THE BAY      Buck Stanton   2012 THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS     Bar Patron with Mariah   6/6/2025 - and  BRONK   Detective Sergeant Venneman   1975-76 WHEELS     Designer     1978 GALACTICA 1980     Deputy Collins    (2 Episodes)    1980  V    Officer Bob Briggs    1983 THE ROUSTERS (2 Episodes)   1983; 1984 HARDCASTLE AND MCCORMICK    Joey Morgan   (2 Episodes)    1983 HOT PURSUIT   Agent Donald Hanson    1984 - 85 $25,000.00 PYRAMID    1987 $10,000.00 PYRAMID     1987 SOAP TALK   2003 ATWILL AT LARGE   Nelson Chadwick   2017 HILTON HEAD ISLAND  Daniel Trisk   2017-18 MATED TO THE ALPHA        Grandfather     2024 WE'RE ALIVE: SCOUTS HONOR     Narrator   2024 PILOTS/PROPOSALS LOVE IS NOT ENOUGH   1978 PodCasts WE'RE ALIVE: LOCKDOWN     Narrator  2016 WE'RE ALIVE: GOLDRUSH      Narrator   2019 MOTEL EVIL    Narrator    2021 THE DIVISION: HEARTS ON FIRE    Narrator    2021 VERDICT    Narrator     2021 SLAYERS: A BUFFYVERSE       Narrator   2023 WE'RE ALIVE: DESCENDANTS    Narrator    2022 - 23 movies THE STRAWBERRY STATEMENT    1970   (San Francisco) ALOHA BOBBY AND ROSE         Floyd Mutrux    1973 BABE      Reporter     1975    (Made for T. V.) DYNASTY     Pilot    1976    (Made for T. V.) THE QUEST      1976    (Made for T. V.) THE GIRL WHO SAVED THE WORLD   Jack Schoengarth    1979   (Made for T. V.) DESPERATE VOYAGE     Lieutenant Taylor   1980    (Made for T. V.) INSIDE MOVES    Cab Driver   1980 J. O. E. AND THE COLONEL      Pike  1985    (Made for T. V.) FRIDAY THE 13TH PART VI: JASON LIVES   Officer Pappas     1986 ROCKER    Bill Smith   2006 THE WEDDING VIDEO    Tim     2007 ALIENS GONE WILD   Kryocomm CEO     2007    (Made for T. V.) MIDNIGHT MOVIE    Dr. Wayne    2008 BOUND BY A SECRET   Jamison Trunk    2009   (Made for T. V.) SHE ALIEN   Kryocomm  CEO   2009 TURBULENT SKIES    Captain Lankford   2010   (Made for T. V.) DINOCROC VS SUPERGATOR   Delirious Scientist    2010   (Made for T. V.) DRY RUN     Bernie Malt     2010 EMERGENCY CONTACT    Mr. Lucas     2010 CAMEL SPIDERS     McNeil     2011     (Made for T. V.) CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER   Dodgers Announcer   (V) 2011 I LOVE YOUR MOVES      Kiev    2012 PIRANHACONDA      Pike    2012    (Made for T. V.) LIZARD MAN     Television Anchor (V)   2012 SEXY WIVES SINSATIONS     Captain    2013    (Made for T. V.) PLEASURE SPA      Captain Crane    2013    (Made for T. V.) CRYSTAL LAKE MEMORIES: THE COMPLETE HISTORY OF FRIDAY THE 13TH   Self; Officer Pappas     2013 SCARED TOPLESS      Professor Rand   2015     (Made for T. V.) ATTACK OF THE KILLER DONUTS   Uncle Luther    2016 SHADOWS OF THE DEAD    Dr. Cobb    2016 LEGEND OF THE NAKED GHOST   Mr. Rand     2017 HEARTBEAT     Detective Marsden     2017 HOPE DANCES     Yuri    2017 MIRACLE IN THE VALLEY     Sheriff Rawles   2019 BARKING MAD      Nelson Chadwick   2021 DIRTY LITTLE DEEDS     Frances    2021    (Made for T. V.) FURRY LITTLE CHRISTMAS    Mitch     2021    (Made for T. V.) REVENGE BEST SERVED CHILLED     Victor    2022    (Made for T. V.) HUSTLERS TAKE ALL    The Senator   2024 THEATER At the Will Geer Theatricum Botanicum THE TAMING OF THE SHREW      Petruchio WINTER'S TALE A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM THE TEMPEST LYSISTRATA THE HOUSE OF ATREUS MERRY WIVES OF WINDSOR Family Ties Parents    Alys Lucille Wilkinson and Donald Arthur Swan Marriage    Susan Marriotti    1994 - 96           YOUNG JOEY       DONNIE JEFFCOAT      Born Donald Lee Jeffcoat                   2/16/1975 - Present CBS SCHOOLBREAK SPECIAL  "No Means No"   Tommy   1988 GENERAL HOSPITAL     Craig     October 19 & 30,1990; November 1, 1990; December 10, 1990 MALIBU SHORES     Logan    1996 PARTY OF FIVE     Paul     1996 ONE LIFE TO LIVE    (Father) Joseph Francis (Joey) Riley Buchanan   10/17/1997 - 1/19/2001 DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES    Alan Marcus    2007 and THE WONDER YEARS     Eric Antonio    1988-89 WILD AND CRAZY KIDS     Host    1990-92 STEP BY STEP       Jonah   (2 Episodes)   1992 SEVENTH HEAVEN    Michael Towner     1997-99 SEARCH PARTY     Contestant     2000 PodCast HOLLYWOOD DREAM MAKER     2020 movies GHOULIES II       Eddie     1987 AFTER THE PROMISE    Richard 2   1987     (Made for T. V.) BROKEN ANGEL    Brad    1988    (Made for T. V.) RED RIVER     Young Matt   1988     (Made for T. V.) HOME FREE    Douglas D'Lugash    1988 GUTS AND GLORY: THE RISE AND FALL OF OLIVER NORTH   Stuart     1989   (Made for T. V.) NIGHT OF THE DEMONS    1988 THE LAST CHANCE DETECTIVES: LEGEND OF THE DESERT BIGFOOT    Sam   1995    (Made for T. V.) WISH UPON A STAR     Kyle Harding    1996     (Made for T. V.) LONG STORY SHORT    Daly      2002 EAGLE EYE   F. B. I. Agent       2008 CAMERA OBSCURA    Jason      2010 MOCKINGBIRD    Father    2010 MY NAME IS KRIS KRINGLE      Felzer     2010 FORTRESS    Wally      2012 HOTCHFELD    Tom      2012 YOU'RE INVITED: THE MAKING OF NIGHT OF  THE DEMONS   2014 GHOULIES III: MORE TOILETS, MORE TERROR -- THE MAKING OF GHOULIES III    2015 THE BOOK OF JUDITH    Judth's father    2016 A GUNMAN'S HAND      Jack McCall    2021 Video Game     DISRUPTOR    Jack Curtis    1996 THEATER GALILEO    1985       South Coast Playhouse     Costa Mesa, CA Marriage -- Cassandra Leach    10/27/2018 - Present   https://voyagela.com/interview/check-out-donnie-jeffcoats-story/         SWIMMER              RAMIRO LEAL   GENERAL HOSPITAL       Swimmer   6/3/2025 and SNEAK ME IN YOUR CLOSET, MY PRINCE     Sebastian Romano    2025 OBJECTION! 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Roman      2025     (PodCast Soap) BEYOND THE GATES Reporter Bradley "Smitty" Smith Contract -- 2/25/2025 - Present Peter Porte      pg. 236 MONTECITO       Deacon Granville    2025    (PodCast Soap)   Vincent Irzarry     pg. 2      MONTECITO       Bradley Belasco    2025    (PodCast Soap)   Emme Rylan       pg. 41 MONTECITO     Bethany Gina Roman Quinn     2025   (PodCast Soap) Rick Hearst     pg. 415 MONTECITO     Announcer      2025     (PodCast Soap)    Marc Anthony Samuel     pg. 393    MONTECITO    Gio Carreri       2025     (PodCast Soap)   Crystal Chappell     pg. 14 MONTECITO     Helena Granville Belasco   2025    (PodCast Soap) Ben Dukes       pg. 399 THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL      Gun Dealer (Luna)  June 5 - 6, 2025 https://voyagela.com/interview/check-out-ben-dukess-story/ Vincent Simard    pg. 445 THE BOLD  AND THE BEAUTIFUL     Zane   June 2025   THEODORE SIMARD   Added  pg.  445 THE BOLD  AND THE BEAUTIFUL    Griffin   June 2025 and 9-1-1    LONESTAR  Jonah     2024 - 25 Has a twin brother named Vincent   Robert Gossett    pg. 154 GENERAL HOSPITAL       Marshall Thomas Ashford         10/18/2021 - 3/18/2024; 8/21/2024 - 10/22/2024; 12/20/2024; 6/5/2025 - 6/6/2025   Domini Blythe      pg. 444 SEARCH FOR TOMORROW    Dr. ___ Sherman  -- Liza's Doctor      6/21/1985  Ashley Jones         pg. 385 THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL Bridget Forrester Sharpe Marone 2004-12; 2013; 2015;2016; 2018; 2020; 2021; 2022; Tentative re-start December 6, 2023 -12/22/2023; August 2024; December 2024; 4/16/2025 - 4/??/2025; Tentative return date -- 7/7/2025 -     Steve Lundquist    pg. 385   SEARCH FOR TOMORROW    Steve Kendall   November 8. 1985 - November 26, 1985 Coming up: Rest in Peace, Pamela Peters Viggo Mortensen, John Mahoney, Maureen O'Sullivan, Chelsea Rendon, Jake Getman         Shout out to Victoria Foxton for Guzman's SFT pic and Donnie J's GH pics!
    • I’m up to October 2, 1996. Ugh, the opening was updated to add Zachary and Dahlia, and remove Vanessa.  I guess this means Maeve left the show and everyone will just assume Vanessa died in her car wreck, so sad.  Matt found the MRI test results from the mail, just before Vanessa’s memorial, but Nola convinced him that no test results matter at this point. They also gave Nola the short Vanessa haircut now, so it’s throwing me off haha. Btw, how is Quint not around for any of this? He just came back full-time, but then couldn’t be available for his sister’s memorial? Billy is back!  He just showed up at the hospital and gave Josh a big hug. So did Reva, and Reva finally just mentioned that she calls Dylan every week (ha!).  He has 24 hours out of jail for deaths in the family, so I guess he isn’t staying right now beyond the memorial. He’s pushing Reva/Josh as a couple to Reva. I feel so bad for Matt during this whole thing. Watching him break down at the beach is heartbreaking. Rick just told Phillip about his one-night stand with Blake, and now Amanda just told Roger the truth in front of all of them about Rick being one of the fathers. Blake denies it, Roger doesn’t believe it, but Amanda is so bad and I kind of love it haha. Zachary is now obsessed with Michelle and saved her from drowning. He called her Mary until he corrected her and said she’s Michelle. Was there a Mary in the Bauer family? It seems like he recognizes her from a long time ago. It seems like Michelle is done with J for good, as she’s now developing a crush on Zachary. It looks like they’re going with a J/Dahlia/Marcus triangle, away from Michelle. So Griffin was behind his assassination attempt?  Weird and I don’t care. Roger got electric shock treatments now and is acting differently, like a changed man who is overly nice, but of course it’s an act. I sure hope he ultimately gets the upper hand and we can get him out of this hospital. Blake and Hart seemed to be upset that Dinah allowed the treatments to happen, but those two are too little, too late for me. Annie is now missing work because of the pill addiction; things are getting worse. Annie just went off on Abby at work, so you can tell she’s getting angrier. What I do like about this story is how quickly others began to question her pill taking, and it’s not some secret that lasts for months. Josh just caught Reva skinny dipping at the creek and Annie found her diner apron and realized they were together. I really think Kim Zimmer puts a lot of herself into the Reva character haha. I’m in the middle of reading her book and Kim and her friends are into skinny dipping in real life! Overall, a boring month but I’m looking forward to another holiday season in Springfield for something new and fun (I love the holidays). I think I’m now going into McTavish and Laibson’s last month as HW and EP. I’ve got to say, post-Marion/Brent, McTavish’s big umbrella storylines of 1996 (Lonatrat and A. Spauling/5th Street) were huge busts. Lonatrat made everyone unlikeable and A. Spaulding/5th Street was so slow and uninteresting. Otherwise, my thoughts on the smaller B storylines: Grant family/Griffin was so gross and unnecessary; Dahlia/Marcus is boring; Holly/Fletch/Meg is nonexistent; Zachary and his meddling, I’m on the fence; Abby/Rick pairing I like; Blake/Ross/Rick and the twins I like; Annie and her pill addiction I like, but the slow Reva/Josh movement is boring and I lump Reva’s return into the 5th Street storyline because she’s mostly just with Buzz and Alan.
    • Murder, She Wrote appeals to viewers of all walks of life. It doesn't feel outdated at all and there's still that feeling of comfort and warmth when watching it. Murder, She Wrote was a show I took for granted as a kid/teen but its a show I appreciate so much more as an adult. I think it will live on forever in reruns, DVDs, streaming.
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    • It's too much!  Madison has potential as a character. I enjoy what the actress has shown so far in her limited scenes. But I must say that Madison playing off Chelsea and especially the way she was acting was giving a grown adult talking to a teenager. 
    • I'm sorry, I can't contain myself as I am playing catch-up.   NOSY NURSE IS GETTING A STORYLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????   YASSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • She should've called Jacob and reported her for stalking!
    • Yes...I was like what the hell is she doing. Finding every moment to talk to her too while she's at work. It was just super desperate. 
    • really! her father has a stroke and all she can think about is getting laid?! but, while chelsea’s behavior isn’t really all that surprising, madison’s defies belief. the writers went out of their way to reduce her age, since what 30-year old attending neurologist would be gushing like a teenager, and going live on social media with a patient’s daughter? on another note: i’ve never watched either y&r or b&b, but for the past three days, b&b has been on (long story:) but three episodes with nothing but characters endlessly rehashing the danger sociopath luna presents to steffy was excruciating! nothing happened, no character development, nothing happening among the characters — just crazy luna, over and over and over.  have no idea if this is standard for b&b. but, if it is, btg not holding b&b viewers makes sense. 
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