Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 I told Sylph this, but I think we'll notice Rauch's influence on Y&R when we start getting more campy stories and characters! I've said this for a while, but Y&R's missing that campy element it used to have. Latham and Maria have tried to make Y&R a little to realistic in some ways, forgetting that campy villains and storylines were also an intricate part of Y&R's identity. Rauch might be a tyrant, but when the writing is strong, he can produce a quality show. Truth be told, despite his flaws, I've decided he's better equipped to be an EP than Josh Griffith ever was. Rauch's position as Executive Creative Consultant isn't a nothing position, Latham joined in the same capacity in November 2005 and her influence was INSTANTLY felt on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 Rauch is better than LML and he's probably better than Griffith. Rauch is Sony's influence, he most recently worked as a consulting producer for a Sony produced Russian telenovela called "Bednaya Nastya" which was a period piece. We'll see how much influence he has, MAB seems to have a tight grip on the writing...I'd like for this consulting gig to work out. I'm slightly biased in Rauch's favor. He's the one who signed Joan Collins to GL for a $weet deal that treated her like the star that she is. So he gets thumbs up in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 Rauch supervised a Russian telenovela? man I'm curious about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 You know if Rauch does get the EP job at Y&R, he could always worked really well with Maria and Hogan. He's not going to piss Maria off, her family owns the damn show. He'll most likely be there to help strengthen her material and make sure the execution and producing aspect is in place. Y&R's needed stronger execution for a while now, Rauch has done that, no matter how bad the writing has been at other shows he's worked for. I still say he'd make a better EP than Josh Griffith, and I can see him firing tons of dead weight on Y&R as EP. Everything from the actors to the stylists. There was speculation that Y&R would be getting a new EP by the end of the summer, if it's not Rauch it's someone else. I think Josh Griffith's days are numbered and he couldn't be gone sooner, if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 I agree with you, Griffith is a weak EP for certain. If Rauch gets the EP gig I agree that, essentially, he'll be an execution man, carrying out MAB's vision. SHE's the boss, lets not kid ourselves! What MAB wants MAB is going to get. It's a new era at Y&R, the EP no longer has the push that LML did...after all...it wasn't LML's production values that really pissed people off, it was the effing writing. Granted, the production values fell to sh*t during her run, but I could have sucked it up if the writing hadn't been so effing terrible. The only reason why I think Rauch won't get the EP gig is because of his age. Let's face it, he's 74, that's OLD in the entertainment business which is an ageist business to be sure. That being said, he's behind the scenes...he might be the one Sony and the Bells want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 I haven't followed Griffith at Y&R whatsoever but I do think he's a talented writer (at least when he works with Malone )--what I don't understand is why he was hired as a *producer* in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 No one thought Rauch would return to daytime when he went to GL in 1996, for some reason I can see it happening. Executive Creative Consultant is a big consulting position that wields a lot of power. Latham joined in that capacity initially and her impact was immediately felt on the show. Griffith is so gone by the end of the year, I just wish we knew for certain who will replace him. Michael Logan hinted that Rauch was joining in this position to be "groomed" to possibly take over the reigns of the show. Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 Logan's exact words: TV Guide (Miley Cyrus cover) July 21-Aug. 3, page 96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 At most soaps being a creative consultant means "You're a Writer Who Doesn't Write" but at Y&R creative consultants do wield significant power, you're totally right. My hope is that Rauch, if indeed he is to be the EP of the show, realizes that he isn't Jesus H Christ himself and allows MAB and Hogan to write while he produces. Micromanaging will NOT work on Y&R, LML failed at it and if Rauch does it he will fail as well. Alls I know is that when Joan Collins described her time at GL she didn't have a harsh word for Rauch and actually enjoyed working for him. It was MADD that got her venom: she insisted that Joan Collins, THE Joan Collins, pay for her own limo to and from the studio. The nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 I'm sure Rauch will be disappointed at the show's relative dearth of hot young blondes, and lack of black women he can have fired in the parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveFrame Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 You are right about the campy elements of the villians and stuff - even those were under Bell. He didn't go over the top with it but he did have that some. Another element that Bell loved to focus on both in front of and behind the scenes was women's weight. The Ashlee story on GL is so much something that Bell would have done. I am not sure why he got obsessed with it on Y&R as he never seem to touch on it with Days but he did his first women's weight story back in the late 70's with Kay Herble. I forget the characters name but her husband was played by Anthony Herrera. Then of course Trish Stewart had back stage troubles with Bell because she had put on baby weight. Then later he retold the Kay Herble character story with Traci Abbott and then Amy Gibson was given the edict by Bell to lose weight or be fired. We haven't had a woman in awhile on Y&R to deal with weight on screen but of course the rumors were that Adrianne Leon was fired for her weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 So did he like weight stories as much as he liked incest ones? I think women's weight stories can be tricky to do (wasn't one on Y&R associated with lesbianism?) - and honestly would prefer it to be a bit less of an issue--like it's become for Marcie on OLTL (although my sis did point out that she's the only young woman on the show who's even slightly heavy lol--Llanview has good genes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 I'll say this much for Paul Rauch: even when he was running GL, and his writers were doing things with the show that turned my stomach, I wasn't as bored as I have been these past few months at Y&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JONNYSBRO Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 The thing about Rauch is loved his OLTL, it was so fun and campy and high production values. I loved his first two years at GL but it went downhill. During his last six months when he was paired with Millie Taggart the show got really very good. I know so many GL fans hated Rauch but I would take his GL in a heartbeat back over Ellen Wheeler's GL which I just cannot stand which she has done. Wheeler is not going anywhere, apparently Bloom just adores her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 *cough*VeronicaRedd*cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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