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I don't think so.

Barbara's always said that even though she's glad they didn't kill Peggy off, she'll never return because she wants to enjoy life now, as EastEnders was a lot of hard work that took up most of her time.

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I asked Kathleen yesterday if she was leaving and she did not respond, but apparently there is an article in the sun today that confirms she is leaving.

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It's looking more and more to me that Bryan and Kathleen were fired rather than leaving on their own accord. It's just the impression I get.

It looks like the rest of the year will be a "revamp" year for the show.

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There is an overriding sense of satisfaction and victory on the Digital Spy forums at the moment. I've never had a great deal of time for that 'community/lynch mob' but since more or less the time it was announced Bryan Kirkwood would become the Executive Producer it has gotten worse, to the point the moderators had to ban users at regular intervals for out-of-line comments, ranging from linking his sexuality to his choice of stories and actors to his Scottish heritage. Bonkers.

However, I do think he was ultimately a bad fit for Eastenders. Having not gone back and read it, I think I commented on the 'Eastenders Machine' when he was appointed. Diederick Santer, Kate Harwood and going back, John Yorke all worked within a BBC machine prior to taking the reigns at Elstree.

Whilst in charge of Hollyoaks, I can only imagine the workings at Lime Pictures were less 'structured/restricted' and thus, Bryan Kirkwood had less people to appease and answer to. He also didn't have a massive fanbase and media to answer to. Certainly not on the scale he has had for the last 2 years.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a 'defence' as such, because the quality has been very 'hit-and-miss'. I don't need to go over what has already been said because I agree largely with it. I don't think the show was ever as bad as stated. I like a long-running story and didn't mind the Masood/Yusuf story lasting 1 Year+. I mean, it gave us the magnetic Ace Bhatti for a sustained period of time.

Do I think he and Kath Beedles were asked to 'resign'? Probably, as suggested by the installation of an interim EP. Think the hasty exit of Paul Marquess from Hollyoaks and the temporary reign of Gareth Phillips. There is enough talent in the two of them that I don't think they will have problems finding new gigs.

Eastenders doesn't mark everybody's cards.

I mentioned the fanbase that needs to be appeased. I feel with this fanbase in particular that they know what they DON'T want but may not actually know what they DO want, and in that regard, they may not know what they have with any new permanent until it's 'too late'. Then it will all begin again.

On that note, I don't suppose it's too late to tempt Myar Craig-Brown back form ITV?

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With the huge Ben story at the moment, I'm surprised no-one has commented in here.

I actually adore Ben. Does that make me a sick viewer? I think he's one of the best characters ever in any soap.

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I watched the lead up to the murder and Ivegot to co-sign on the positive feedback. I especially adore the fact that Bens relationship withIan or Heather was not forgotten.

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Hilariously photoshopped cast pic from 2001 that someone at Walford Web posted.

It looks like the BBC photoshopped this themselves...

I still can't believe this was 11 years ago.

I think this month is 10 years since Steve Owen's exit...

Cast2001a.jpg

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The Revealed special on Heather's exit/murder:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rvdJFZEZdWM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xN67o7pP2QM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Q3TV2bNcZjM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GaV0gHMoEsc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The character was a joke most of the time, but I think I'm actually going to miss Hev in some strange way...

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Seeing Steve Owen in this pic makes me see similarities between Heather's murder storyline and the Saskia murder storyline...

I think Jay could end up going the way of Matthew Rose...

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