What a fantastic episode! Making Talia/Carlo daughter/father genius! I loved all the history references since I don't know Carlo's history. I can't wait to see more of him. I don't remember him being this fun to watch under Higley's "Prison Break" storyline.

And I can't believe Cole told Todd that Starr's pregnant....and it was in the middle of the episode! What an interesting twist.

I'll be able to live post today!! Yay!! LOL

I LOVE CARLO!

He's really the best villain, and he's in that category of being so evil that the ultimate end to all of his stories is that he gets killed off. He's awesome.

Carlo's ties to the current cast:

Viki - Probably Carlo's longest-standing vendetta, Viki shot and killed his son Johnny Dee in defense of sister Tina. Carlo has never gotten over it. I believe Carlo was behind the shooting that left Viki paralyzed when she was either Mayor of Llanview or running for Mayor. In 1996, Carlo hired a psychiatrist/hypnotist (Elliot Durbin, played by GH's Trevor Lansing -- Stephen Macht) to hypnotize Viki into shooting her first born, Kevin, but Viki's love for Kevin was stronger than the hypnosis and Carlo's plot was foiled.

Tina - Tina was involved with Carlo's firstborn son, Johnny Dee Hesser. I think Johnny was obsessed with her, and grew hostile when Tina wanted to leave him to return to Cord, and Viki (as Niki Smith) shot Johnny Dee, killing him, to protect Tina.

Renee - Carlo's former lover from before Renee came to Llanview, Carlo always had a soft spot for Renee, and often warred with Asa to win Renee's love. Renee was the spark of the Carlo/Asa rivalry.

Blair - Carlo was hired by Asa to kidnap and kill Blair. Obviously it didn't come to fruition.

Marty - Carlo was involved in the terrorist organization, the Men of 21, who were responsible for hunting Patrick Thornhart for most of Patrick and Marty's initial courtship. The Men of 21, from what I remember, were what drove Patrick and Marty out of town in the 90s.

Antonio - In Antonio's earliest days, he worked for Carlo Hesser's crime organization, I believe as a mole to bring it down.

Cristian - It was revealed that Carlo was behind the brainwashing/programming of Cristian to kill Tico Santi and involved in the time Cristian was away from Llanview and presumed dead.

Dorian - Gave her a guided tour of Hell when Dorian was shot in a robbery and hovered near death. For the most part I don't remember them crossing paths much in Llanview, but they may have been in cahoots once or twice and I think Dorian was involved in the hypnotism story with Elliot Durbin.

Natalie - Took her hostage in the prison riot (his last appearance on OLTL) and forced her to choose which would be shot: John or Cristian

John - Faced off with Carlo in the Statesville prison riot.

RJ - RJ worked for Carlo's organization in the 90s.

Todd - The Men of 21 shot Todd when he traveled to Ireland to bring Marty back to Llanview. Todd was presumed dead for many months and returned to find Patrick having sex with Blair.

Talia - Apparently her father!

Other significant ties:

Alex Olanov - Married several times, not sure any of them were legal, Alex was always putting one over on Carlo and bouncing between Carlo and Asa. Alex faked a pregnancy with a pillow, and I think Asa exposed it at her wedding to Carlo.

Max Holden - Max convinced Carlo that he was dying and Serenity Springs water might cure him. I think this scam led Carlo to kidnap Max's twins Frankie and Leslie. Max and Maggie Carpenter (Crystal Chappell) were working against Carlo at this time.

Storyline potential:

I would love for him to also be Blair AND Rex's father! Imagine Blair, Rex, and Talia as siblings?! I'd just die.

Thank you so much for this quick history lesson!!

As for the Tina/Rebecca debate, I thought Andrea was playing (the mannerisms/voice) Tina similiar to Rebecca, but then I saw an old clip of Tina from the 80's and now it's the othe way around! Either way, I still love her.

Oh, Cain's pretty funny too!

It's the other way around now - Rex going to see a drunk Bo.

Damn you Nora!!!

Nora's a pathetic bitch. She just had to have Lindsay arrested, cause breaking up her and Bo wasn't enough right?

Tomorrow looks like a better episode with Viki/David and Charlie/Dorian.

I loved today's show.

Am not a fan of Tess but she did make me giggle when she looked around Viki's room and said, "Flower wallpaper. Kill me now." I have felt the same way for YEARS. That is one set that so needs to be redecorated.

Always enjoy the scenes between Rex and Bo, their relationship is a great one to watch develop.

I SO cannot wait to see Viki/David and Charlie/Dorian tomorrow.

Addie proclaiming David The Man, (Not The Dog), The 8th wonder of The World was priceless. So was the look on Dorian's face when David dropped his towel.

Go Nora!

*runs away now*

Edited July 8, 200817 yr by reallyhateskateonlost

Aida Croal is my favorite Script Writer on OLTL.

Nora's a pathetic bitch. She just had to have Lindsay arrested, cause breaking up her and Bo wasn't enough right?

tell me about it. I thought it was bad enough what she did yesterday and it looked like even she wasnt happy with her outcome. Now we find out she wasnt happy bc she wants Lindsay to suffer even more. Nora is so despicable. I absolutely HATE this character and want her killed off. She is such a hypocrite and liar and this vendetta against Lindsay is personal no matter how much she hides behind the law to justify her actions. Is she forgetting that when her own daughter Rachel killed someone, she did everythign in her power to protect her, even going so far as to take her on the run to escape prosecution?

Lindsay was so right calling Nora out on her vindictive obsession with her. Nora's moved on? Ha! Who is she fooling? So many things she has done over the past year has proven that she has not moved on from what went down between she, Bo and Lindsay nearly a decade ago.

Edited July 8, 200817 yr by Cheap21

David thanks for the Carlo recap--I'd forgotten a lot about his character even though I think he was created by Malone and Griffith just around when I started watching (Vicki *was* the mayor btw--you're right). A great character that somehow has survived some AWFUL stories (hypnotizing Vicki to kill her song was one of the most loathed Vicki stories, the Men of 21 mess was seen as the end of Malone' golden era, etc)

Nora seriously needs to let it go. She's getting off on this [!@#$%^&*]. This isn't about justice, this is about her getting one over on Lindsay. The show seems to forget this one little fact....SPENCER WAS GOING TO RAPE BLAIR!!! Yes Lindsay was going to kill him anyway, but she prevented him from raping Blair. Nora, though I love the woman, is a bitter bitch who needs to grow the feck up.

Carlo was created by Paul Rauch's people, a year before Gottlieb and Malone.

Edited July 9, 200817 yr by Vee

on a side note, I loved Tess calling Bree, Grape. I loved that Ron remembered it bc I forgot it until she said it. Viki didnt even catch on when she said that that was something she came up with with Nash when she was pregnant. Tess was the dominant personality during the pregnancy and the one thinking up names with Nash. Jessica was more into Antonio and tried to push Nash away

Edited July 9, 200817 yr by Cheap21

Nora seriously needs to let it go. She's getting off on this [!@#$%^&*]. This isn't about justice, this is about her getting one over on Lindsay. The show seems to forget this one little fact....SPENCER WAS GOING TO RAPE BLAIR!!! Yes Lindsay was going to kill him anyway, but she prevented him from raping Blair. Nora, though I love the woman, is a bitter bitch who needs to grow the feck up.

Amen.