Members SalemPlace Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 It just keeps getting worse....... Something kept telling me that me hope for Carjack would be pounced on and killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 Umm....EXCUSE ME??? I don't know what I take more offense to...the fact you labeled one board's fans "psycho" or you dismissing a fan base because they are "psycho enough" in your opinion to count. ATWT fans are in general more low-key than ABC or DOOL fans, IMO, but that doesn't mean they don't care as passionately about their favorities. Carjack fans show up when it counts...and that's usually the ratings. Their aborted wedding was one of the ten most watched episodes the show had all year (I believe it was number 4, and coughbetter than anything the Nuke fans have mustered up, for examplecough.) And this February, pretty much highlighting them which was better than the 1.8 that they've dipped to since Carjack's last breakup. I just find it incredibly foolhardy, considering the massive unease generated by some controversial firings (Byrne, Bryce) and heavy-weight exits this year (McCouch, Landon, Soffer, McClain), that TIIC would be so controversial. They didn't need to add Carly to the mix to officially end Lilden. They've been on fumes since Rose appeared. It's not even that they want to toy with Holden moving on, it's HOW they're doing it. I don't even blame JH for wanting a juicy story that revolves around him as a man, not as a father. But too many characters are already running around like PODS. That's what's driving down the ratings. ^^^Yeah...well, no doubt once Carly sleeps with Holden, we'll get good Jack/Carly scenes, just to drive the knife in a little deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jcar03 Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 Um, yeah. Maybe not Lily and Holden now that Martha is gone but there are A LOT of Carjackers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WorldTurner Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 There are still a ton of CarJackers out there and they have been leaving in the last few weeks which I think is part of the reason the ratings are dropping. It isn't just "psycho" fans Lily and Holden still had a ton of fans before Martha left but some of them left with her. And yes if you really look at last year's ratings, Carly and Jack had a bigger impact on the ratings than Nuke did as far as the most watched shows. So I do think this is suicide for the show. And Holden is just too boring of a character to pair up with Carly and to be so front and center in the show. How can this not be a couple based show when if you aren't part of a couple you don't get a story??? And Jack cheated on Katie when he slept with Carly. That was nothing compared to what Holden is about to do especially after having sex with Lily this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 I am still wondering what actor was against this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WorldTurner Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 I'm pretty sure Michael Park was against it. And Maura also said recently that this doesn't make Carly look good but she can separate the actor from the character and she isn't Carly. However she said she is a little heartbroken because she and Michael have been so close for years now. That's about as outspoken as Maura has ever been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 I think the hatred between Lucinda and the Snyders will resurface after the affair is exposed. I know there will be scenes with Emma, Lucinda and Holden. That's the only good thing to look forward to. I just hate the pairing. I dont see it lasting very long with all the negativity and possible drop in ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ian Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 I think it's über retarded, but totally something the hacks in charge would do. I think this is just cause NotMartha came on... They're like oh, ok so she has no chemistry with anyone so let's just throw together two people who have a modicum of history together (Carly and Holden) cause they know each other, and God knows we want to antagonize the CarJack fans until they revile in anger. If G&P want to be hacks, you have to admit they're doing a fantastic job at being stupid! I wonder if this stupidity comes naturally or if they have had to practice for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 If you want your voice heard...... To Call in your Concerns: ATWT Comment Line (718) 780-7675 Email your Concerns: [email protected] To Snail Mail in your Concerns: Alan G. Lafley Chairman, Proctor & Gamble 1 Proctor & Gamble Plaza Cincinnati, OH 45202 Barbara Bloom Senior Vice-President, Daytime Programs CBS Television 7800 Beverly Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Mr. Pat Gentile Head of P&G Productions Procter & Gamble Productions World Wide Plaza 825 8th Avenue New York, NY 10019 Richard Mensing CBS Daytime NY 51 W 52nd St., Suite #586 New York, NY 10019 Christopher Goutman Executive Producer As The World Turns c/o JC Studios 1268 East 14th Street Brooklyn, NY 11230 Brian T. Cahill Televise/Procter & Gamble Productions World Wide Plaza 825 8th Avenue New York, NY 10019 As the World Turns 1268 East 14th Street Brooklyn, NY 11230 http://www.officialatwtfanclub.com/email/index.php Email the cast of As The World Turns: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 I hope they get the backlash of all backlashes. Seriously WTF are these idiots smoking? Must be some hardcore stuff to come up with [!@#$%^&*] like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 I hope at least people call in to the number I provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 I doubt either Mike or Maura is "thrilled" about this story. They know how their fans are taking it. The only one really benefitting here is Jon Hensley. He and Martha both wanted a breakup for years. I'm sure it's less about "hating" Lilden, than the fact the current regime can't write for them. They haven't had a good story since Faith's kidnapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaysFanatic777 Posted June 18, 2008 Members Share Posted June 18, 2008 I have watched Holden and Lily for decades now. I know Byrne is gone, and I have to come to terms with that, BUT I still can't see why they would move in this direction. "there's no more story for the couple" is a way of saying the writers have got lazy and no longer want to strain their poor minds. There could be story for Lily and Holden. How could there not be story for a couple that has been around for twenty to twenty five years? I believe in couples taking breaks. I think that characters need breathing room and space. However, I don't like seeing a true supercouple being split permenantly on the basis of "no more story". History creates story, it doesn't destroy story. Why should a couple run out of story on the basis of longevity? I wish they would atleast have longterm plans for Holden and Lily, EVEN in the face of recast. Holden and Lily represent ATWT sole supercouple of the 1980's. So despite the recast....I don't like this for Holden and Lily. As for Carjack, I think it's really stupid for the show to break up the only real strong couple created in the recent past. Carly and Jack are really one of the few popular couples created this decade in all of soapdom. It seems like when you come across something golden, you try to hold on to it. Sure, let there be trouble for Carjack...Thats what makes Carjack likable and rootable, but Carly sleeping with Holden is a HUGE blow to this couple, and if it's written according to standard...it will be the end for Carjack. My main problem though is the character implications. The Holden I know wouldn't sleep with Carly. Why would he? It isn't like him at all. Even if he liked Carly (which he never has...) he would never do Jack like that. Never. He cares about and values family. I haven't watched regularly in a while, and maybe Jean has butchered the characters on this show to the point that this is believable, but the Holden I remember would Never do this. It's a hack job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted June 19, 2008 Members Share Posted June 19, 2008 I can't wait. I'm looking forward to Holden and Carly hitting the sheets. Very interesting and exciting. The rest of the show is so drab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted June 19, 2008 Members Share Posted June 19, 2008 Interesting and exciting? Character destruction is interesting and exciting??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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