The fact that they made Hogan Sheffer take the #2 position, effectively answering to someone who hasn't written anything in Daytime in approximately 20 years speaks volumes, woudln't you say?

I sure would!

So, Sheffer is one of those weak Co-HW's, like what Donna Swajeski appears to be to David Kreizman? Hmm, I would've thought that he would only join if he got equal status, like what B&E were to one another. After all, no matter what everyone's opinions are of him, he has more Head Writing experience than Maria and a few Emmy wins...

Edited May 27, 200817 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

So, Sheffer is one of those weak Co-HW's, like what Donna Swajeski appears to be to David Kreizman? Hmm, I would've though that he would only join if he got equal status, like what B&E were to one another. After all, no matter what everyone's opinions are of him, he has more Head Writing experience than Maria and a few Emmy wins...

Let me clarify. I wasn't suggesting that Hogan is weak. On the contrary, he's head and shoulders above Maria Bell without ever having watched a frame of Y&R. It's precisely because he's NOT been granted the #1 position, or, for that matter, "equal status" that the future of Y&R is in question. Maria may be a perfectly lovely person but she is not now nor has she ever been a writer.

Let me clarify. I wasn't suggesting that Hogan is weak. On the contrary, he's head and shoulders above Maria Bell without ever having watched a frame of Y&R. It's precisely because he's NOT been granted the #1 position, or, for that matter, "equal status" that the future of Y&R is in question. Maria may be a perfectly lovely person but she is not now nor has she ever been a writer.

Yes, I've heard she's all sweet and charming. Do you know if she has ever published a novel?

Yes, I've heard she's all sweet and charming. Do you know if she has ever published a novel?

She should've stuck to fashion.

She should've stuck to fashion.

Let me clarify. I wasn't suggesting that Hogan is weak. On the contrary, he's head and shoulders above Maria Bell without ever having watched a frame of Y&R. It's precisely because he's NOT been granted the #1 position, or, for that matter, "equal status" that the future of Y&R is in question. Maria may be a perfectly lovely person but she is not now nor has she ever been a writer.

Wait, wait. I didn't understand this correctly: are you suggesting, as I think, that Hogan will be there in name only, just helping Maria with daily duties, or that Hogan will be writing the long-term projections and Maria will be taking all the credit for it?

^I would like to know that as well.

See, I think the thing with Maria is that she understands these characters, their motivations, and their histories. However, she just doesn't know how to plot stories, pace them, or do anything noteworthy and big. If Hogan can do all that, and Maria focuses on the characters and their intentions and helps Hogan with the characterizations of these characters, it could all work out.

See, I think the thing with Maria is that she understands these characters, their motivations, and their histories. However, she just doesn't know how to plot stories, pace them, or do anything noteworthy and big. If Hogan can do all that, and Maria focuses on the characters and their intentions and helps Hogan with the characterizations of these characters, it could all work out.

Yep.

I forgot to add, Hogan needs to help bring the bitch back in Jill, Lauren, Katherine, and Phyllis. Latham destroyed these women and stripped them of their spice and sass.

Since Victoria Rowell said she wants to come back as well, and if he she does, he and Maria have a whole lot of damage to fix there as well. As Faulkner mentioned in another thread, one of Hogan's friends and writer Judy Tate has expressed interest in writing for more African American characters, if Hogan can get her to join Y&R, maybe she work wonders with the Winters family...

Edited May 27, 200817 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I forgot to add, Hogan needs to help bring the bitch back in Jill, Lauren, Katherine, and Phyllis. Latham destroyed these women and stripped them of their spice and sass.

ha. good luck.

on Days he made Kate an even more annoying hands on mother to her very adult kids. He made Sami freakin Brady into the shows selfless heroine.

Tho he did kinda make Belle a bitch and a slut... so you can maybe look forward to that with... Heather? Lily?

Hogan kept Kate bitchy IMO. When hasn't she been an obsessed mother though? It's not like Hogan created that for her.

As for Sami, she was sexually assaulted and they played out her vulnerable side. How many sane women act in character after being raped? If you've noticed, Sami didn't start crying in every episode until she was raped and pregnant.

I think its more insulting that Sami's now in love with they guy who forced himself on her and her mother's now defending this guy who caused so much grief to her family...

As for Sami, she was sexually assaulted and they played out her vulnerable side. How many sane women act in character after being raped? If you've noticed, Sami didn't start crying in every episode until she was raped and pregnant.

And I *hated* all the crying, but that's a directing thing, not a writing thing. There were times Sami SHOULD have cried last year, but they were totally meaningless because Ali cried in EVERY episode, and Wyman and the directors never stopped her.

Ed Scott came on, and CLEARLY said something, because Sami got MUCH tougher, especially in her scenes with EJ and Lucas. And much ballsier.

Sheffer absolutely amped up the Bitch in Kate Roberts (which Lauren Koslow appeared to relish)...I hope he manages to do it with Kay, Jill, Phyllis and Lauren, those characters NEED it.

Again, I don't think Hogan is best judged by his time at DAYS. There was a whole lotta bullsh*t going on behind the scenes which messed with a lot of story. Hopefully Sheffer is able to keep Maria focused on storyline that actually go somewhere. She appears to know character motivations, he appears to know how to get stories moving. I hope it works.