11 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

Dylan actually started out as a hardworking kind of underdog until he fell for Kelly. He really was written into a corner after that, and his demise was inevitable. Page Moseley gave it his all, however, and made Dylan a more sympathetic figure than what was on paper.

Is it wrong I preferred Dylan to Jeffrey...? I hated what the Dobsons and their team did to the role of Dylan.

1 minute ago, Liberty City said:

Is it wrong I preferred Dylan to Jeffrey...? I hated what the Dobsons and their team did to the role of Dylan.

That's a post for the Unpopular Opinions thread! Dylan was definitely a different character at the end than he was at the beginning.

1 minute ago, amybrickwallace said:

That's a post for the Unpopular Opinions thread! Dylan was definitely a different character at the end than he was at the beginning.

Yes, he unfortunately was. I feel like the Dobsons did it to Dylan to bring Joe Perkins-looking wannabe Jeff for Kelly, because they didn't want her with someone like Dylan, unfortunately.

It's also true that Kelly had much more chemistry with Dylan than Nick. Nick looked (and acted) more like a father figure than a lover.

10 hours ago, Tyro said:

Anyway, they had to change their clothes from last night. They spent the night together, got dressed, maybe had a breakfast. Monterey is further from Santa Barbara than Carmel, it means that at first they decided to continue the trip but then start to argue again (maybe Lionel was too pushing) and Sophia put an end to it. I'm impressed how she screamed at him "Damn you!" No social distance at all. 😏

She was definitely there all night. The detective was watching over them, and he reported to CC that Sophia left the yacht only in Monterey  

Did you see Sophia and Lionel spend a night together in 1990? The story when Gina made photo report about this and then blackmailed them?

In the morning they were going to run away from each other secretly and accidentally bumped  downstairs. 😅 So typical Sophia and Lionel.

The detective also said that the boat was reurning, but she left a long time ago. 

I did see when they spent the night together. And they did both think it was a mistake. 

16 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

That's a post for the Unpopular Opinions thread! Dylan was definitely a different character at the end than he was at the beginning.

Yes he was. And his introduction to Mason was GOLD! Some darling posted that scene on Facebook yesterday and I had to watch it twice. It's just difficult to sepatate the end Dylan from the beginning. 

And Nick's creeping me out. He definitely has a thing for young innocents. His thing for Alice is full on creepy. Kelly was bad enough, Alice is worse. Ugh. Shudder

21 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Yes, he unfortunately was. I feel like the Dobsons did it to Dylan to bring Joe Perkins-looking wannabe Jeff for Kelly, because they didn't want her with someone like Dylan, unfortunately.

I'm really confused about why the Dobsons did a lot of things. But by that point, I think the Network suits had more say in what the Dobsons did than the Dobsons. I think the Dobsons fought for some things, let others go and fell on the Marj Dusay sword (and Gee-turns out THEY were right about that one.) They also wanted Jed, but a suit said NOPE. I hope that suit got fired...

20 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

And Nick's creeping me out. He definitely has a thing for young innocents. His thing for Alice is full on creepy. Kelly was bad enough, Alice is worse. Ugh. Shudder

David Haskell was only 37 when he played Nick, but he had a mature look that definitely went against him when he played opposite 19-year-old Robin Wright. Marie-Alise Recasner (Alice) is actually several years older than RW, but on the show was made to look younger. I agree that it was still creepy with Nick, at least visually.

24 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

I'm really confused about why the Dobsons did a lot of things. But by that point, I think the Network suits had more say in what the Dobsons did than the Dobsons. I think the Dobsons fought for some things, let others go and fell on the Marj Dusay sword (and Gee-turns out THEY were right about that one.) They also wanted Jed, but a suit said NOPE. I hope that suit got fired...

I don't know if I blame NBC or New World more. Clearly, the Dobsons did not work well with anyone outside of themselves where Santa Barbara is concerned.

6 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

I don't know if I blame NBC or New World more. 

I think more of the onus would be on New World. They owned the show, NBC only aired it.

12 hours ago, Tyro said:

I didn't say that santa-barbara-online makes mistakes in every article 😄 I said that mistakes come across in articles about Sophia and people associated with her. Maybe Sophia isn't Lilian's favorite character, and she just doesn't remember and doesn't wish to rewatch Sophia's storyline. Maybe Dylan is her favorite character 😋

In fairness to the website, every new producer and headwriter changed Sophia a little bit. By the end, she was barely the same character that she was in the beginning. 

4 hours ago, Marissa Gallant said:

In fairness to the website, every new producer and headwriter changed Sophia a little bit. By the end, she was barely the same character that she was in the beginning. 

True, but you could say the same for every character. The show itself was only a shadow of its original self.

Another missed opportunity with Brick. When he was talking about how it felt when Amy died, we could have found out what Sophia felt when her old geezer Count died.

And when Sophia and CC fell apart, Brick could have been there with an, "I was terrified this would happen, Mom."

31 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

True, but you could say the same for every character. The show itself was only a shadow of its original self.

This is very true. There was a lot of recon for a young show.

6 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

This is very true. There was a lot of recon for a young show.

The only things that stayed the same from start to finish were the theme music and the opening title sequence! 😳

16 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

The only things that stayed the same from start to finish were the theme music and the opening title sequence! 😳

And Lionel was still played by Nicholas Coster. 

I'm at the Tape Episodes. I mean, sure, the marriage between CC and Gina is a sham. And the whole thing is over the top. And any real police department would hear the cassette and ransack Gina's belongings. But it is so much more fun the way the show does it. And the one liners during these episodes have me rolling. 

When Gina has the cake that she pops out of delivered, Keith asks, "What is this? A mobile home for Hansel and Gretel?" 

And when Mason and Gina are kissing and they are saying one thing, but the voice overs say what they're thinking. 

Gina roasting hot dogs on the balcony. 

It's all just so funny.

1 hour ago, Marissa Gallant said:

And Lionel was still played by Nicholas Coster. 

True, but he wasn't there for the entire run.