Read my above post reply to MichaelGL. And the ratings were still bad under RC.

Ah well I guess we'll continue to agree to disagree about RC's writing then.

Read my above post reply to MichaelGL. And the ratings were still bad under RC.

Gary Tomlin has been writing the show. RC is in the process of cleaning up the mess Gary and the scabs put into place.

Ratings were just as low under Ron. Besides, there was only soo much Gary could do with what Ron left him. Ron brought OLTL to new record lows under his tenure.

sorry..double post

Edited March 20, 200817 yr by KAnder5695

Ah well I guess we'll continue to agree to disagree about RC's writing then.

Yup.

Hahaha...I'll get you for that one!!

Ratings were just as low under Ron. Besides, there was only soo much Gary could do with what Ron left him. Ron brought OLTL to new record lows under his tenure.

Exactly!!

CBS took a helluva hit last week but then I remembered that basketball was on here during most of the CBS shows last Thursday and Friday and I'm sure the same happened in other markets, but OUCH to Y&R's fall. Hopefully next week is much better.

*sigh* I'll just remind people what happened last week on GH. Apparently they (TIIC) feel this is what drives ratings up. Mob, mob, more mob, misogyny and more mob.

And according to Guza, there will be more mob to enjoy.

Jen

1.Y&R 3.8 (-.2)

2 B&B 2.8 (.-1)

3 ATWT 2.2 (same)

3 GH 2.2 (-.1)

5 DOOL 2.0 (-.2)

5 AMC 2.0 (same)

5 OLTL 2.0 (same)

8 GL 1.9 (-.1)

Edited March 20, 200817 yr by Soapsuds

I'm not a big RC cheerleader and in fact stopped watching OLTL with him because it was boring. OK, I'm a liar. I stopped watching because he refuses to write for my favorite characters, which makes it boring to me. I hope that changes.

That being said, a couple of things must be considered IMO. Most of the shows -- Y&R being the exception -- are being written by SCABS right now. I put that in caps because I don't like SCABS. LOL. These shows are probably in a little bit of a holding pattern right now. EPs, even those as bad as Frank, probably aren't going to allow major story arcs to be launched while the main writer is on strike. Even Y&R is transitioning.

Add to that spring break and families taking little vacations and there is going to be drops.

Now, in coming days, I'll be watching March Madness on CBS too. i love March Madness. There is no question, however, daytime is in a world of hurt.

Ratings are always going to fall. Its inevitable, no matter who's writing. Soaps only get small bumps if they are good.

In defense of RC, Tomlin practically has his own stuff going on now. He just left RC's stuff up in the air after his first or second week, except for a few stories. It seems like the only stories of Ron's that Gary is continuing is Jared's being a buchanan scheme and Rex being Shane's father. Everything else seems like stuff Gary started up suddenly.

I'm kinda tired of the same old dance with the ratings. Things won't get better if creative changes aren't made. The industry is stagnant. It's time to get some talented newblood and some talented oldheads in here.

I agree. I think that soaps in their present incarnation have just run out of anything to offer. It might be better to start canceling them and starting from scratch.

On a another topic, Frons' contract must be some kind of magical document written in gorgon's blood and sealed inside Mt. Olympus because there's no explanation for that man to still have a job besides dark magic.

Edited March 20, 200817 yr by marceline

Forget the RC/GT debate. Fire Valentini. He's the common denominator of suck. He should have been out the door because of the Santi debacle. As for changes merely hiring a new writer was never going to be sufficient to fix all that was wrong with OLTL.

ABCD may have passed the point of no return.

Oh and of course why Frons still has a job is the mystery of the decade.

In defense of RC, Tomlin practically has his own stuff going on now. He just left RC's stuff up in the air after his first or second week, except for a few stories. It seems like the only stories of Ron's that Gary is continuing is Jared's being a buchanan scheme and Rex being Shane's father. Everything else seems like stuff Gary started up suddenly.

Yeah, I also noticed that unlike Ron, Tomlin doesn't use Addie that much, and there also a secret that Roxy was keeping that seems to have been dropped.

I'm curious Jess about what characters RC stopped writing for; that you liked? Not trying to pick a fight or anything, just curious.

Edited March 20, 200817 yr by MichaelGL

On a another topic, Frons' contract must be some kind of magical document written in gorgon's blood and sealed inside Mt. Olympus because there's no explanation for that man to still have besides dark magic.

LOL...vodoo??

Forget the RC/GT debate. Fire Valentini. He's the common denominator of suck. He should have been out the door because of the Santi debacle. As for changes merely hiring a new writer was never going to be sufficient to fix all that was wrong with OLTL.

I knew Valentini sucked as EP when he selected Mikey as the winner of "I Wanna Be a Soapstar". Right there was proof enough for me.

I agree about Valentini. Even though his stories this time haven't been great, I think Tomlin would work better as OLTL EP with Ron as HW.

Of course, Frons needs to go for all of ABCD to heal.