Can you confirm all of this for sure? You're information hasn't been 100% reliable in the past (as we all know).

Until Toups can confirm it or CBS, Sony, or Bell releases a statement, I still think they're a transitional team.

The #1 soap that's distributed by Sony employing two Fi-Core writers as its HW's for the long-term? Sounds too far fetched to be true to me.

You're putting Toups in front of Sony's statement and SOD? Hilarious!  OK about SOD, but official statement?

I just don't see the reason for your skepticism. Sure, they maybe a transitional team, but as long as they keep it on track, who cares? This is new territory, we'll see how will this affect the awards.

You're putting Toups in front of Sony's statement and SOD? Hilarious!  OK about SOD, but official statement?

I just don't see the reason for your skepticism. Sure, they maybe a transitional team, but as long as they keep it on track, who cares? This is new territory, we'll see how will this affect the awards.

The Fi-Core thing leaves me skeptical, since the WGA isn't too fond of those writers anymore. Why else were they stripped of their WGA nominations? Also, I can't imagine them being too happy about their members being apart of writing teams headed by Fi-core members. It doesn't make any sense to me. I like Griffith and Bell, but I don't think both are here to stay as HW's. Griffith is here to stay as EP maybe, but not as HW IMO.

The Fi-Core thing leaves me skeptical, since the WGA isn't too fond of those writers anymore. Why else were they stripped of their WGA nominations? Also, I can't imagine them being too happy about their members being apart of writing teams headed by Fi-core members. It doesn't make any sense to me. I like Griffith and Bell, but I don't think both are here to stay as HW's. Griffith is here to stay as EP maybe, but not as HW IMO.

Yes, now I see you have every right to be skeptical. I agree with everything you said.

Until any further developments, I'm just going to see how will these two develop the show's storylines. So far, I like them.  I told you - they probably are temporary, I just wonder how long will they last...

And when I mentioned new territory, maybe the Guild has some surprises coming our way regarding financial core writers. The probability is close to 0, but it's existent.

Edited February 22, 200817 yr by Sylph

Sylphy, I must ask, why all the love for Wicked? I thought it was a pile of crap...

Sylphy, I must ask, why all the love for Wicked? I thought it was a pile of crap...

I sent you a PM about that.

Whether they are a transitional team or the permanent team I am so far very happy with Griffith and Arena Bell's work.

I think SONY was 'over' the Bill Bell era team which is why they allowed LML to overrun the show with her primetime pals. Now, having seen what a year without *anyone* from the Bell era around has done to the show it appears that SONY has come to it's senses with Maria Arena Bell.

My hope, however, is that Kay Alden will ride back into Genoa City as a consulting producer, the show needs her vetting.

My hope, however, is that Kay Alden will ride back into Genoa City as a consulting producer, the show needs her vetting.

God forbid! Not for another five years, at least! If I see her name in the credits, I'm going to scream!

By the way, how much time usually passes until SOW or any other magazine publishes an interview with the newly-appointed head writers?

Edited February 22, 200817 yr by Sylph

Regardless if Griffith and Bell stay on as HW's, I'm more interested in seeing who they hire as apart of their writing team should they stay.

The Y&R anniversary book has apicture of Trent Jones. He has a beard, but still looked good 10 years ago. I'll try and scan the picture for Toups.

The Y&R anniversary book has apicture of Trent Jones. He has a beard, but still looked good 10 years ago. I'll try and scan the picture for Toups.

And this is all you have to say about Bell and Griffith?

I don't know that I like Josh Griffiths on Y&R so much. When he was on One Life to Live with Michael Malone the show was a huge disaster. I don't know if Malone or Griffiths was to blame, but Griffiths should have been able to stop Malone from introducing so many new characters, killing off so many beloved favorites and alienating everyone.

With new people in charge now I'm hoping for a cast house cleaning.

There is way too many characters that are a waste of air time and space on the show.

Please get rid of Korbel and Australian Colleen...Tv's most boring couple...EVER.

Dump the runners-up, JT and Victoria too.

(Maybe keep Vic...just light a fire under her ass or something)

She's just so timid.

Where's her balls at?

Heather needs to go.

Her whiney-ness ways have worked my last nerve.

I sleep through white-washed Lily scenes.

Watching Cane and Lily put me to sleep faster than sleeping pills.

Get him away from her.

She's killing him!

Brad? Nice ass...and that's about it.

Karen? She could grow on me with time I guess, but let's just end it now.

I just don't see the rooting value in these people.

Why should I care about them and their lives?

Why should I watch them?

Cause right now I don't.

I channel flip.

Get some interest back in this place.

I believe Korbel can do great but he just needs to get away from NotColleen.

I think it was stupid to get Victoria pergnant right after she lose a baby & then have the baby turn out to be JT. They are so boring.

I love what you said about White-washed Lily. Did you ever notice al lthe relationships she been in it never about her but about the guys. People don't care if she get hurts because it really about the guys in the relationship.

I can't comment on Heather or Karen. Maybe if they can backburn or get rid of white wash Lily I'll probably will watch Y&R.

God forbid! Not for another five years, at least! If I see her name in the credits, I'm going to scream!

By the way, how much time usually passes until SOW or any other magazine publishes an interview with the newly-appointed head writers?

Sylph, honestly, what is with the Anti Kay Alden Agenda? I ask that with serious interest because I don't think I've ever seen you spell out your dislike for her.

I don't know that I like Josh Griffiths on Y&R so much. When he was on One Life to Live with Michael Malone the show was a huge disaster. I don't know if Malone or Griffiths was to blame, but Griffiths should have been able to stop Malone from introducing so many new characters, killing off so many beloved favorites and alienating everyone.

To be fair Malone without Griffith is a disaster--the two combined have done some magic--in the 90s it was when Griffith left (around 1995?) that the show fell apart during his last year. Malone's not good period at Another World was without Griffith. Then when they were rehired for OLTL for the first half year it was just Griffith and he made the show, if not grat, much more interesting, then it was Maloen as HIS associate and it was pretty good. When malone (for whatever reason) became full ehadwriter again and then ultimately Griffith left earl;y (apparantly due to ABC dictating story) and Maloen was alone it was AWFUL.

Griffith isn't perfect but as much respect as I have for Malone (his books are amazing as is much of his soap ideas) I think Friffith is the one who's really made his writing on OLTL compelling

And this is all you have to say about Bell and Griffith?

I wrote that before reading the rest of the thread/ I don't have much else to say about Bell/Griffith. I think they're a good transitional team, but the show still needs a lot of work and a new vision. Hopefully a new vision that doesn't include Amber and revamps neglected/poorly utilized characters like Paul, Michael, Kevin, Lauren, Daniel, Jill, Katherine, etc. I want much needed older characters to return ala Nina, Phillip IV, Lorie (written properly), Drucilla, Olivia, Christine, Danny, etc. I just need something bold and fresh, while still being Y&R. Kinda like what happened to B&B last year with the Logan's and Ashley. Had the show continued on that track it would be in great shape.

Right now I still FF the show and find it boring in places. I also don't believe RavenWhitney when he/she says they are LML's successors. RavenWhitney has been wrong with just about every piece of scoop posted. Remember him/her saying Kay Alden and Brad Bell hated each other? Obviously that hate was deep since Kay went FiCore for him!