Members NeoAngelicLiz Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 Lol it will only make Lucky look even MORE pathetic (sad that that is even possible) if he needs his brother to beat up on Jason... The character should just go around all day screaming and crying cuz thats all I'm seeing him and Sam doing..."OH WOE IS ME! The person I treated like [!@#$%^&*] for months doesn't love me anymore and lied to me! Lets forget the fact that I lied to her a million times more and basically GUILTED her into staying with me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 Lucky guilted Liz into staying with him? Did you miss the episode earlier this year after the hostage crisis where he let her go and told her he was moving on and leave her alone? Liz is the one that went back to him and asked him to give her another chance. She asked him to marry her and to not give up on them. She went back to him on her own free will. It was HER choice. There was no guilt involved at all, at least not from Lucky. And Lucky has every right to cry and be upset. It wasnt like Liz told him his tie looked good when she really thought it was ugly. What she kept secret was a BIG lie. This is serious stuff. Any man that wouldnt be showing emotions like Lucky is wouldnt have a heart. His sadness is understandable and expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 Apparently only Jason is allowed to show pain and hurt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 What? Jason shows pain? I haven't seen Jason show human emotion since 98' or so when was this? The only thing I usually see from him is that blank dull stare he gives out to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 Nikolas clearly has his own issues unrelated to what Lucky just learned. IA about Sam but Lucky just found out some devastating news so his anguish is warranted. I don't think he guilted her into staying with him at all. If you listen to Elizabeth, you might get the impression that she thinks she's the protector of Lucky and took it upon herself to decide what's best for him. Granted, she may have been right about his not being strong enough at one point to deal with the truth since he based his recovery on the baby but she needs to let that go. Lucky's a grown man and his choices are his responsibility. She can't save him from himself if he decides to do something detrimental to his sobriety. One comment I have about what she said today was that while her saying that she thinks she loved Jason from Jake's which I believe I've heard her say before and in no way minimizes the feelings she had for Lucky, but the comment about being best friends comment seemed hollow to me. I know why it was said but she should have stuck with the loved Lucky all my life or whatever it is she normally says about loving him. This is funny and I'd agree with you if I could but I learned that the misty eyes is his hurt look and look of pain. I love that look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 i love the struggle that Elizabeth is going through. i don't mind it being "dragged out" but i also like long term story lines and secrets that stay secrets for years. it makes me care more. i do feel bad for her - even tho she did keep the lie and put herself in the place she is in. i also feel bad for lucky who was lied to by Liz. by Jason. by Sam. by lulu. Liz does love Lucky, she always had and always will. Same for Lucky. but i do hope this couple is done for a few years at least, if not forever. I would love to see them become friends again tho. LL2 is what got me addicted to GH. Sam needs to be rebuilded as a char so bad now, IMO. she was brought on as a girl with jax. then went to a girl for sonny, then Jason, and now lucky. who is Sam? because all i see is some manipulative spiteful jealous insecure hypocritical bitch. and i want her far away from Lucky. What Lucky needs is a new girl who he can be with. Someone he can fall in love with - another real honest relationship. All he has ever had was Liz. that awful Emily thing. Summer, and that was nothing. and Maxie, who was his drug dealer. maybe Robin? Jason did love Sam. And they both screwed up, but she is the reason its over. Her selfishness. Her jealousy. Her hate. Jason and Robin were great - and I'm glad it ended and they have not gone there again. Not ever romance needs to last forever and be some grand love affair. Courtney - I'm not gonna there because that was worse than Sonny & Emily... And i do think that Jason will never love anyone the way he loves his soul mate - his best friend Carly. But Jason & Elizabeth... i love them. i wanted them and waited for them for 8 years. and I'm so glad its finally here, and I'm so glad it wasn't easy, and I'm soooo glad there is still conflict there. and for those who say Liz would be a bad mother for putting her kids in Jason's lifestyle - what about Alexis? Oh wait, because shes no longer with Sonny, its okay? yeah. right. I do hope that Liz decides to move in and be with Jason and they get the kids - and i hope that they don't have Liz turn a blind eye to what Jason does and just accept it. But i also hope she doesn't try to change him. Also - even tho for some reason i feel like I'm gonna hate the answer I'm gonna ask something. what does everyone feel about Rebecca Herbst as an actress? in the role of Elizabeth Webber? because i always read about KM, GV, and SB.. nut never her. i feel bad for those involved - liz, lucky, jason, jake... but not sam. i love this discussion - and i love reading how and what everyone feels and i love that there is no arguing or being spiteful to each other. this is how all soap discussions should be. anyways... onto todays show... i just wasn't into the Patrick/robin/Leyla scenes. i don't know why - wait.. i do. because it wasn't about SCRUBS!! the luke/tracy/scott/logan/lulu/lucky/Sam scenes were good. but nothing great. i didn't care at all for Emily's search for nick. prob because i don't care about Emily or nick. but i did like the Jason/Emily scene. i love there relationship. i did love the Nadine vs lulu moment. and the Liz/spin talk. loved the Sonny & Kate scenes as well as the Carly & Jerry scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 I don't really like commenting on actors unless a scene I think is really critical either goes well or bad, but I'll give you my take on several for the price of one. I am so picky when it comes to acting nowadays for some reason because I swear I used to only care about who beauty unless someone was really awful. I'm so used to RH that she would have to do something really big for me to take notice and I mean big in either a highly moving way or a negative way. Because I've only seen her in the one role I can't say much anything about her range which is the case with all of them although people like Stephen Nichols and Tony Geary are on a distinct level for me. SB doesn't overwhelm me with his acting but he's perfect for me as Jason because I'm used to him. I have noticed the bad timing/delivery at times but nothing major. MB is Sonny and I was oblivious to his slow deliberate delivery until a friend asked me why he takes so long to say whatever it is he's saying. Overall GH has generally done a decent casting job, imo, because they've just had more adequate performances than I've seen on their sister soaps. RH has been pretty consistent. I didn't like Robin being stuck with those two at certain points but I didn't mind her clearing the air with Leyla. Patrick and Robin's constant bickering about nothing used to wear on me but today I felt their pain and heartache and I thought it was funny that Leyla was trying to make herself that important to Patrick and he ends up standing over her admitting that he still loves Robin. I wish Kate hadn't told Sonny that she was in love with him even a little much less very very. They could have made him wait longer to hear it even die for love or not. Carly and Jerry were creepy to me. After yesterday, they made me want Jax to have drowned to be done with her merry go round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevotedToAMC Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 Excuse me Lucky? I did not catch today's show (I barely do since the show is crap) but from what I heard, he actually called Liz a who*e. Excuse me, Lucky, but who in the heck raised a potty mouth like that in their lifetime? Certainly not your parents (and you accused your mom of enjoying her rape. What class you have!) Now I am in no way excusing Liz for the affair but calling her such a gross name is very uncalled for and a cheap stunt by this moron. Liz actually put up with a lot with Lucky and his drug addiction and any other crap...if you ask me, his abuse of drugs was much worse than her sleeping with Jason. Liz and Lucky have known each other for years and loved each other for a long time and now she just means that little to him? And, uhh, Lucky if you want to look at a H0 (I prefer not to use his term), just look at your current flavor of the month. You both deserve each other and may you live in a gutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d_wsb Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 oh robs ewww why did leyla wake up ok.. liz can be the official barn gatekeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 It's like Liz is running a boarding house down there in that barn!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d_wsb Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 did u see super jason jump off the stairs? LOL bye bye emily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeoAngelicLiz Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 OH NO.... Who does it? Anthony Z? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RuAsRuAnAu Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 Your point is... Is this ^ not a SPOILER? How do we know that Dr. Emily is dead? She could be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 Reply to yourself, like you usually do, maybe then you'll discover the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 Ding dong, teh bitch is gone! thank goodness Emily is dead. If 1 person ahd to die this sweeps, cant say Im upset its her. She really bugged the hell out of me towards the end. She was a much more tolerable character on teh backburner Liz: "The one I really blame is Sam" Twit, take responsiblity for your OWN actions. I how how she keeps passing the blame off on other people here. Sam did NOT make you lie. She did not create this mess. Was she involved? Yes but Liz was the one that made the choice to lie and let it snowball. It was her lie, her sin and she needs to own it instad of blaming others for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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