GH: New Promo

[Cheap21]

That was me, and you completely missed my entire point and logic. Jason's life is dangerous. People around him get caught up in that danger. Thats a fact and has been the case for pretty much all connected to Sonny or Jason, including Elizabeth herself. She has kids so she really should be thinking about them first and if she truly did that, then she wouldnt let them hang out with Jason in public. She wouldnt invite him into her home to play with them, nor would she take them over to see him. She failed to realize how much danger she was putting them in just by doing this. What Sam did scared her straight and made her realize that yeah, Jason's life does include killing and that any moment, she cant guarantee that his enemies wont go after her or her kids to get to them. In 1999, she was kidnapped, locked in a crypt, and had a bomb planted in her studio bc his enemies saw her close to him and suspected that she was his gf. Knowing that, why would she take the risk with her kids? Bc of Sam, she's determined not to risk that and has cut her ties with Jason and she's doing that for her kids. The shootings, the killings, the kidnappings, the bombs, the violence, etc... is a reality for Jason and those in his world. Liz's kids shouldnt have to be a part of that and thanks to Sam, Liz is going to make sure they wont, at least for now

[kandbar]

You truly don't see that Sam is no innocent? Guza hasn't destroyed any of the characters... Ric came to town with hatred and revenge in his heart for Sonny. Sam was first introduced in a bar doing what she does best, conning. Maxie hasn't been sane since childhood. Of course Guza and other staff writers will write what they envision, that's how come they win so many Emmy awards for best daytime soap... yet, if we're talking about the characters, as if this was a real situation Jason is the man, while Lucky is a waste of space. Oh, and if Sam can be an "Everyday Hero," with all the [!@#$%^&*] she's pulled, Jason can put on a superman cape too!

On a serious note, I'm glad that Guza is getting his feet wet with romance... for so long it was about Sonny/Jason and tick, tick, boom! And let's not forget the disrespect toward the female characters when said females never provoked such treatment.

[kandbar]

Yes, yes, yes... It's an episode... but let's think "real world" for a moment... Liz could have put up a fight, causing herself and her children to get injured. Jason could have came a long and started firing his gun, terrorizing Liz and the children, and maybe injuring Liz or the kids. Lucky could have appeared, and the same results could have happened. No one thinks "You know that may be a fake gun." Everyone assumes that the gun is real, therefore there's a threat. What Sam did was very, very wrong, and again illegal. She didn't put one iota of thought to the children's welfare... all Sam saw was teaching Liz a lesson by terrorism. The bitch is cold, calculating and insane!

[pinevalleylanview]

What did she do? Please! She lied, cheated, stole and killed. Many people who were wronged by her could have opeted to kill her. How Jasam fans can say they hate Jason and look at Sam as a victim doesn't surprise me at all because anyone with sense would see that union was always doomed. News flash, SAM IS NOT THE LOVE OF JASON"S LIFE, you Jasam fans never seemed to get that. Jason future would not be with a Sonny leftover so Carly and Samantha could never go the places Robin and Elizabeth have. Robin will always be special to Jason, but Elizabeth may be the better shot at happily ever after. Sam's willingness to loose herself to love him, isn't something a fan club should be based on, it's sick, obsessive and dangerous. Alex always saw it, Sam's need to have Jason love her, she refused to do anything to improve herself, her life, her world, she just wanted Jason to love her. She needs professional help. The women in Jason's life were all responsible, functioning, working adults, even Carly. What does Sam do other than want Jason to love her. What is true about obsessive people especially stalkers, the think they are in love and they are very dangerous. Sam sounded insane yelling a Jason in jail for attempted murder because he hurt her for not telling her about his son. She glossed over the part of sleeping with Ric which none of you ever talk about. Jason whether he was golden boy Quatermain or bad boy Morgan, was always faithful. He would never, ever, drunk or not, cheat on a woman he loved. She violeted the relationship and twisted the knife by doing it with Ric, not to mention what she did to Alexis. I won't talk about the baby, because I think even the Jasam fans know deep down inside that was icing on the cake., Jason will never truly let that one go. But killing to protect someone he loves is who Jason always was. Remember the call to Sonny during the Elizabeth/Sonny mess, when Jason told Sonny, "go home and say goodbye to your family..." Yes Jason will kill anyone to protect his, if he was willing to kill Sonny, he would and should rid the earth of Sam. The only thing I like about Sam is the Cassadine connecton. It is time for her to transform and be the woman she is capable of being. She is in the stages of becoming bitter, vengeful, and scorned. That is what a ice-queen carries with style, like Helena. In soap we just meet cold villans and never see how they became so bitter. She is the futue Cassadine Queen with an open bank book to finance get back. She could be a poweful enemy with a personal vendetta to finally bring down Sonny and Jason. We saw how the Cassadine/Spencer fued started on that Island and Helena's life changed and her goal was to bring them down. Well that story got almost 26 years of interest. Sam's vendetta coluld grow to be a classic generation arc and all you Jasam fans can explain to your kids why the rich old lady keeps trying to hurt Jason's family. Then you can enjoy telling them how much Jason and Sam used to love each other before something happended years ago.....................

[d_wsb]

oh just shut up, jason.

[titan1978]

Jason and Sonny are THE male leads of the show. Labine created the problem with Sonny, but during her time he was a tormented man who did terrible things to get what he wanted- respect and power. He could be selfish, manipulative, and he could be a wonderful and loyal friend. The writing had layers, we had a Sonny in town, but we also had people like Tony Jones and Felicia, Lois, Bobbie, and Kevin. People who were good people, and were given storylines of their own.

Guza likes compromised characters. There is a difference to how Sonny was written/portrayed back then to how he is now. If Sonny is the Robert Scorpio of today's GH, then Jason is the Frisco. That is how much the show has changed.

Jason and Sonny dealt with corruption in the PCPD when Hannah and Roy were characters on the show. Guza very much wants us to see them as the heroes of PC. His version of a hero. That is the show now, under his writing team.

[Skin]

I never said Sam was innocent. But that doesn't change the fact that Guza has tried to make Sam look like the bad girl for daring to knock Jason ands Liz down a peg or two. When Jason and Liz are dead wrong here. Say what you will but Ric, Sam, Lucky and Maxie have all experienced major changes in character all as a result of Guz trying to make Jason and Liz a viable couple.

[kandbar]

What? Please enlighten me as to how Guza changed Ric, Sam, Lucky and Maxie all to make Jason and Liz a couple... In other words connect the dots so that it looks logical... Seriously.

[Skin]

Have you not noticed the change in their characters?

Ric was changed into an adulterous husband who was so heartless that he took Molly away from her sick mother (Alexis)

Lucky was changed into an adulterous husband who got hooked on pills and was purposely made the bastard so Liz would look justified for her one night stand

Maxie was changed into a drug dealing slut who took advantage of an addict and then faked a pregnancy

Sam was made into a weeping stepford wife when Jason left her and she slept with Ric because she had no self esteem

All of these characters were changed to give Jiz their one night stand.

[kandbar]

Ric was twisted long before he slept with Sam. Ric kidnapped a pregnant Carly, and kept her in a panic room... He planned to kill her once her child was born, and give it to his wife Liz... There was no Jiz then.

Lucky began his twisted and out-of-control spiral when Liz became the surrogate mother for Jax and Courtney... There was no Jiz then.

Maxie has always had a crush on Lucky, even as a child she wanted Lucky. She saw her chance once Lucky became dependent on pills... There was no Jiz in Maxie's years of yearning for Lucky.

Sam became a weeping, whiny stepford wife once she became pregnant with Sonny's child... Once she lost her child she became glued to Jason and continuously begged to get pregnant again... Sam's adventurous nature died when she met Sonny, then transferred all her attention to Jason... There was no Jiz then.

So what you're saying is that Guza has planned this for years... Even when he wasn't the head writer for most of it.

[dragonflies]

LOL Maxiepad has always had a crush on Lucky, I remember that from years ago.

Ric was changed? Am I watching a different show, or did he NOT kidnap a pregnant Carly and keep her shackeled to a wall?

Lucky has been an idiot since JY played the role, the character hasn't been Lucky since JJ played him, that's why he's UNLucky

Ahh I see so Sam sleeping with Ric is Jason's fault, even though she has low self esteem?

LMAO I see alot of excuses being made, but not one factual argument. None of these characters were changed for anyone, they're who they've ALWAYS been

[Skin]

I have a hard time buying that innocent little Maxie would have done what she did to Lucky. I guess we are watching a different show because I never remember Maxie acting so mainpulative to get what she wanted. Maxie was basically turned into GH's version of Days "Sami" and I don't remeber her acting like that at all. Even when she was a teen on the show. They crossed several lines and changed Maxie's character.

Ric was reedeming himself with Alexis. He found her and he changed. He loved her and cared for her and truely loved his family. I don't buy that that Ric who changed to better himself and his family would do what he did. I don't buy that he would have destroyed his relationship with Alexis for relatively nothing. They had Ric take away Alexis daughter while she was battling cancer. I don't believe Ric would be that heartless. Sure Ric is crazy. But I don't buy that he would do that to someone he loved. Again they made him the villian so Jason and Sonny could look like hero's.

Again they turned Lucky into a dope fiend and turned him into a bastard so Liz could get away with cheating, which is pretty much what they are doing with Sam. They are trying to make Sam look bad by making her look guilty. All for Jiz.

[JackPeyton]

as someone who loves liz and sam.... and jason...

im glad he told her hed kill her. do u blame the guy? she put his sons life in danger. she went over the line - way over the line. i love sam and love her more now than ever, but her poor inocent me, i did nothing wrong, elizabeth is the evil one and im a saint act needs to go.

[JackPeyton]

thank you! i couldnt agree more.

yes they did maxie further than they had before. but shes been a hurt lost confused lonely girl for years, even before KS stepped into the role.

and as for "they ruined ric to pimp jason/liz" bullshit! this is the man who tied a prego carly up in a panic room so he could steal her baby! and lets not forgot why he and liz brokeup. hes never been this good guy, he acted like one with alexis til his true colors came back out.

sam is a whore. plain and simple, always has been and will be. i love her but comeon.

and as for lucky.... he has always made stupid choices that got him into trouble.

and liz wasnt out of char either... shes not a saint and never has been. she had a one nighter with zander. no she wasnt married at the time, but when she slept with jason her marrige was OVER and DONE! yes the lie about whos the daddy and the fact she slept with jason was wrong, but thats doesnt make what lucky did okay. and it sure dont make him the hurt one.

jason did nothing wrong, IMO. he slept with a friend, she got prego, he didnt want the kid in danger, she didnt want anyone to know, he just didnt say anything.

sam has gone wayyy over the line with her latest stunt.

and lets notforget... she is using lucky to get back and jason and hurt liz. and luckys dumbass is letting it happen , just like he did with maxie.

[Kylie]

The Jason and Liz are innocnet victims crap that Guza has people buying never fails to surprise me. Whatever. The sooner Liason gets together, the sooner they''ll self implode and the sooner we'll all be put out of our misery. That's what I want to watch. Liason getting theirs.