Jump to content

Y&R Discussion Thread: Week of May 21st


Recommended Posts

  • Members

Wait though, my Phyllis Hate doesn't preclude my Brad Hate.

Oh, I wasn't saying it does. We all deserve the opportunity to indulge the Brad hate. I'm just saying in generally all these characters are hypocrites who don't take resposibility. I could have used almost any example. Brad is just my fave. :lol:

Sure, but she also told Brad she didn't regret it, so I wasn't all that impressed with her apologies. I'm sorry, but if my affair with my SIL's husband led to a chain of events that hurt so many people, I think I would put childish romantic notions aside and reget the act big time. I'm not saying Sharon is responsible for Dru's death or Victoria's miscarriage, I'm saying she started a chain of events that contributed to those things. Yet she still has to have her "no regrets" bs with Brad. It just pissed me off. All of these characters are self centered, which makes it fun sometimes, but I would like a little more balance. That's why I was hoping Cane was actually sincere.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 53
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

I'm about ready to throw up as I type this, but Sharon told Brad quite a few times that she regrets sleeping with him in NYC and that if she knew it would cause all this pain, she wouldn't have done it. Brad's the one saying he ddidn't regret it no matter what. But that's not surprising since Brad has always been a self-serving asshat.

LML is making it really hard for me to watch this show lately. The plots have got to stop! I have a feeling Gloria won't pay until Judith's contract is almost up and she may not resign. I'm willing to bet if/when Gloria is found out to be the one that tampered with the face cream, she'll get off on a technicality. And I feel that if Michelle Safford's contract wasn't up soon that Phyllis wouldn't be facing extorsion charges. It's just a plot point to cover the bases in case MS doesn't resign so they can write out Phyllis.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Just the other day Brad and Sharon talked about it. Brad asked her if she really regretted it and she said no. I'm not delusional, I swear. This is just a minor pet peeve of mine. I hate soap couples that talk about their "no regrets" affair when the world is falling down around them. Sharon is far from the most selfish person on the show right now though, I admit that. I'm actually one of those people who like both Phyllis and Sharon (Phyllis more usually, but not recently). Brad, Gloria, Phyllis, Nikki and Victor all have her beat by a long mile. At least Victor is thinking of his other son and has some excuse for leaving his family in the middle of their grief.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Fair enough.

But that's movin dangerously close to moral relativism which is what ruined NBC/ABC soaps.

Her apologies to Vicki & Jack were definitely both cases of too little, too late.

But her apology to Neil was sincere regardless of what she said to Brad afterwards IMO.

Well if we're goin that route then N/P shoulda been a LOT more apologetic then they were too since it was their affair that was the impetus for Brad/Sharon.

Yep.

And she'll still be as self righteous as ever while her henchpeople (Lauren, Michael & Kevin) helpin her committ one felony after another.

He has enough time to be a self righteous jerk to Aunt Jack with Michael, yet doesn't have enough time to help the rest of his family through their grief?

Amen. And twice on Sunday.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I agree. I did believe she was sincere with Neil.

I think we've moved into a situation where we have to many characters that are in the grey area. Sure, I think that makes for good soap, but imo, we need the characters who are good too. I watch Y&R and there is not one man, I would want. I watch ATWT and I think "where's my Jack Snyder?" Shouldn't at least some of these guys be ideals the female viewers dream of? Only if you want men who cheat on you when you have cancer or your daughter dies (I love Nick, but it is what it is). We need a few guys with some honor on this show. It's a good foil to the scheming females at the very least.

You'll get no argument here. I'm just saying at least he has some motivation for being selfish. Some of the things these characters do are more palatable to me when there's at least some emotional motivation. Sharon and Nick's marriage falling apart and the affairs both of them had made sense to me because of Cassie. Of course it was still wrong, but Nick really was at least partially at fault for what happened to Cassie and it made some sense that he couldn't stand to be around Sharon. I don't think I could ever face my family in his place. I actually thought that was some decent writing on whoever's part. Nick was acting like an ass, so it made sense that Sharon would turn to Brad (god help her).

Lately, Brad, Nikki and Phyllis pretty much have no motivation for some of their bad behavior, so it's a lot harder for me to give them a pass for just being human. Oh, well. Makes hating Brad more fun. He's just a natural born ass. :P

BTW, didn't Judith re-sign this spring? I could have sworn she did.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I imagine if JVA would have remained in the role of Gloria, we wouldn't have been dealing with all the crappy, kookie mess that has been dished out to us right now. It would have been great to see JVA and Ted S. together...Her version of Gloria for me, was far more interesting in seeing...When they brought of Judith, they immediately turned up the laugh track and the bafoonary in all her scenes.... Like I said, I like Judith Chapman, but her version of Gloria is like a very bad imitation of Lucy Ricardo that has gone one scheme too many.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

SweetNYGal- Have you heard if GC has re-signed? I bet TPTB were pretty worried with SC, MS and JM all coming up for re-newal at the same time just when VR left. That could have been an even bigger disaster than it already is.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

ITA. Mainly cause JVA knew EXACTLY who & what the character was.

It sure would've.

Cause TS as Will is the most boring boring that ever did boring. lol

JChap is a good actress but she plays the EXACT same character on every soap. Which would be fine if she were another character but JChap's Gloria is the antithesis of Gloria.

As freaky lookin as Joan is/was, she was absolutely superb at creatin such a unique character in such a relatively short amount of time.

See, there's a difference between Grey Area & Black Hats.

Michael (prior to Kelfin & Hecuba) was a great Grey Hat.

Victor, Jack, Jill & Katherine are also all classic Grey Hats.

But once folk like them become the moral centers of the show & proceed to ALWAYS get the last word in EVERY subject they start to ruin the show to the point where people can do horrible things to one another (like they are currently) yet no one ever be held accountable for their actions (like they aren't currently).

Nicholas used to be that relatively good guy but TPTB essentially flushed Shick down the toilet for no reason in the aftermath of Cassie's death, then inexplicably turned right around & acted as if Nicholas was still THAT dude...just with Phyllis.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • Here you go, by special request! https://www.instagram.com/p/DJlXDnWJImW/ DAYS 9-26-90 Matt Ashford as Jack Deveraux in drag
    • Concluding 1976... Raymond Schafer arrives in Springfield and begins an extensive probe into Malcolm’s death, puzzling Ed, who wonders why most of Schafer’s question sessions keep turning back to Rita’s involvement with Malcolm. Ed assures the man that Rita’s only connection with Malcolm was as his nurse; he is unaware that Schafer knows a great deal more about Rita than he does. Just to protect Rita, Ed has Mike check on Schafer’s credentials, and learns that he’s a  well-respected criminal attorney. The waitress at the restaurant where Malcolm suffered his stroke tells Schafer that the woman who was with him reacted very professionally to the sudden emergency, as if she were a nurse. Realizing that her little sister has fallen hard for Tim, Rita warns him that she’s very vulnerable and innocent, but Tim tells Rita her advice isn’t necessary. But Tim then receives a plum job offer to be chief neurological resident at a prestigious Philadelphia hospital and can’t pass up the opportunity. Evie is crushed by the news and spends the next several days at home crying. Joe Werner, fully recovered, has accepted a post as a medical aide in a destitute village in India and leaves alone, with Sarah to follow him later. Justin asks Sarah to consider a partnership with him in private practice, but she explains that she thrives on the hospital atmosphere. When a call comes from India that Joe has had another massive attack, Sarah leaves on the next available flight and arrives only moments before he dies. The painful news is relayed back to Cedars at once. Sara returns from India a heartbroken woman, but the day-to-day involvement of raising T.J. and of her career seem to be her salvation. Justin shows a surprisingly compassionate and understanding side to Sara, but, ironically, Justin’s ex-wife, Jackie, arrives in Springfield with her diabetic father, who is suffering from a heart attack. In the process of consulting with Justin on her father’s condition, Jackie comes face to face with Sara for the first time since their college days. Evie’s heartbreak at Tim’s departure turns to fury and hatred when she inadvertently discovers a letter which Tim wrote to Rita just after he left. In it he concedes that Rita was right about Evie’s vulnerability where he was concerned but reminds Rita that he badly hurt her in the same way she feared Evie would suffer. Evie is now sure that Rita somehow forced Tim to leave town and is livid at the idea that Tim was Rita’s lover. She insists she’s cutting off her relationship with Rita and will pay her back for any help she’s received in the past. Ben and Hope’s wedding plans are off, as Ben, while still insisting he’s innocent, won’t explain why the robbery evidence points to him. Hope feels his unwillingness to tell her the truth makes marriage to him impossible, but confides to Ann that she is miserable without him. Ben has echoed these sentiments to Mike but won’t confide in him, either as Hope’s father or as an attorney.   Holly is trying very hard to build a life without Ed, but since she sees him virtually every day at work,she’s unable to put him out of her mind. She accepts a date with a member of the hospital administration staff but is unable to avoid making comparisons between Ed and this young man and winds up alone, sadly holding Ed’s picture and recalling how much she loves him. Believing that the hospital board’s conclusions on Grainger’s death have settled the question once and for all, Rita has regained her self-confidence, and her romance with Ed is growing daily. They admit their love for each other, and Ed confides that he intentionally  held back with Rita for fear of making another mistake. Rita then tells Ed she has never married because for her marriage must be forever. Rita’s mother realizes that Rita is truly in love when she confides in her that she doesn’t understand why she’s been so lucky in having him love her and how she wants to be the very best person she can be for him. Ed proposes marriage to Rita and gives her time to think about it before answering. Rita painfully realizes that her past could, if it rose again against her, make a life with Ed a lost dream. But Raymond Shaefer has been quietly but efficiently carrying on his investigation and has learned that Grainger argued with Rita at her apartment. He presents the evidence he’s compiled to District Attorney Eric Van Gelder, who decides the case warrants further investigation. Rita goes to Ed’s office to tell him she loves him but can’t marry him, that she doesn’t deserve him and “can’t do it to him.” As she turns from a confused Ed to leave, she finds the district attorney and a police officer outside Ed’s door, waiting to arrest her. Ed, insisting that a serious mistake has been made, calls Mike to help her as Rita, shocked and humiliated, is taken under arrest through the hallways of the hospital in which she works. Mike manages Rita’s release on bail only after she has had to submit to the degrading booking procedure. Mike sees her alone at her apartment, explaining he can help her only if she tells him the whole truth. Rita equivocates until Mike mentions Texas, indicating to Rita that he knows at least some of the story. Van Gelder has, in fact, let Mike see the bulk of evidence in the case against Rita, to convince him her arrest wasn’t a capricious whim. Rita explains to Mike that Malcolm believed she intentionally vilified him to his father, to do him out of his rightful inheritance, and then wanted his father dead to collect her money. Mike expresses his appreciation of Rita’s honesty, promising to help her. But Rita’s tormented dreams confirm that she hasn’t yet told all the truth, and after Peggy visits, expressing firm support, Rita tells Roger she has to reveal his part in the story. Roger painfully tells Rita about his being Christina’s father to show her that if Ed knew, it would end Rita’s chances with him forever. Rita, who was ready to tell Ed the whole story, now realizes how risky that would be. Adding to Rita’s pain is her forced leave of absence from the hospital until she’s cleared and the embarrassment of seeing her name in the headlines.
    • Please register in order to view this content

         
    • Yes, but the stories are all pretty awful Seeing Victor rehashing his hatred of the Abbotts  when he married one of them and has a daughter that is half Abbott as well as walking around with Traci's daughter's heart keeping him alive makes him look worse than he already is. And I remember he and Jack chatting amicably in the past few years. Victor interfering in Kyle/Claire is just repeat of Billy/Victoria. Sharon, Nick,Phyllis etc are around but again the stories are lacking.
    • I think Kevin's 1996 Emmy was fair enough. He barely appeared for his second. I don't think anyone else on the list is that deserving but I might have gone with Moore as he did try with the whole Keesha AIDS story. @alwaysAMC Thanks to slick jones' cast list I was able to see that Nikki Rene played Tina. Not much on her, as you mentioned. Tap and a few Broadway listings (it doesn't help that a younger actress with a similar name is in a lot of roles). Nikki Rene: Credits, Bio, News & More | Broadway World https://onceonthisisland.fandom.com/wiki/Nikki_Rene Nikki Rene - IMDb
    • Thank you. That does ring a bell. I remember Theresa and Julian's drunk, giggly fake wedding (with Julian asking "Whassup?" to the minister). Was Bruce tricking the pair as a prank, or did somebody put him up to it? I especially liked Katherine recalling how dashing young Alistair was when he'd pick up Rachel for dates, and how she wished she could be her sister, then feeling guilty once Rachel had her boating accident ...
    • And Kevin Mambo beat Shemar Moore for those two Emmys. I chalk up the wins to the voters not wanting Jonathan Jackson to eventually end up with a five peat (he won 1995, 1998, 1999). These were the 1996 and 1997 Younger Actor races. 1996: Nathan Fillion, Jonathan Jackson, Kevin Mambo (winner), Shemar Moore, Joshua Morrow 1997: Steve Burton, Jonathan Jackson, Kevin Mambo (winner), Shemar Moore, Joshua Morrow
    • https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/denise-alexander-obituary?pid=209074143
    • Today's episode was excellent. Clearly it was confrontation day and they didn't disappoint. I'm glad they didn't forget Mona in all of this and gave us an opportunity to see how she's dealing with this. A major highlight for me were the Kat and Martin scenes. Their chemistry is off the charts and I don't understand why we haven't gotten more of this. I love how they take turns calming each other down. They feel really well matched and believable as siblings. Speaking of siblings, they anvils were dropping strong that Kat and Eva are twins but I do wish someone would mention that they are essentially hood twins which might throw people off the scent.  I'm one of the people who enjoyed Joey and the gambling storyline so it was nice to see him again. It was nice to see different characters like Mona and Eva in that element instead of the usual players. When Doug arrived I don't know what hit me but I just see a funeral in his future. He seems so hopeless and has the worst luck. I just can't see him surviving the year at this rate.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy