Members ANDREA LOATHES REILLY Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 ROTF!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ANDREA LOATHES REILLY Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 If Lindsay Hartley is carrying the show, this would certainly explain the 1.55641424 the show struggled to maintain THROUGHOUT 2006. Lindsay is a good actress, but she needs to be away from Passions to grow (I find her to be very one dimensional). Same as McKenzie, Galen and a slew of others. I have only seen Lindsay play manic. Can she play a calm well adjusted character w/o being totally boring? We have no idea because she has not done that. So please let's not say one person carried a show, especially when that show has done as poorly has Passions has. Outside of complete NONMOVEMENT and character destruction, Passions biggest problem was that the same 4 characters are on daily repeating the same [!@#$%^&*] over and over. Imagine what could have happened with this show had Reilly put EVERYONE to work and wrote for them. Trassions being canceled is great for so many reasons. Now the actors can move on and really develop their skills. ANDREA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 I understand. I just hope the "naysayers" are allowed the same luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PhoenixRising05 Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 I will have to disagree. Lindsey has had crap material for years now. I don't see where you get manic. She has done the best she can with that character and when she gets good material she hits it out of the ballpark. You can't blame all that other stuff on her. She is well-regarded by many critics as one of the best young actresses on daytime. She would have emmy noms and probably a win if she were on another show. She HAS carried the show. I know if she weren't on I would've given it up two years ago. For her (along with Emily Harper) to put up with the material they give her and still make something out of it shows how good she is. I agree with you about how bad the show is and God knows I have bashed Passions for months concerning character destruction but, really, in it's current form Passions has to have the same people on everyday. Outside of those on every day, is there anyone else that matters? Kay/Miguel/Fox are the only characters currently on everyday that I think shouldn't. I would replace them with Ivy, Julian, and Eve. The rest (Luis, Sheridan, Fancy, Theresa, Ethan. Whitney, etc) are the most populatr characters on the show. Passions doesn't have a big cast so of course they are always going to have the same people on and those people have the biggest fanbases and are probably the only reason Passions doesn't fall lower. Don't put this on Lindsey and all the other actors. Put it on Passions and the writers. Lindsey and several other actors do well and even outstanding when they get solid material but it's not there fault they get repetitve dialogue, storylines going in circles, etc. That falls on JER and TPTB, not the actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ANDREA LOATHES REILLY Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 I am not putting anything on Lindsay because she certainly was an asset to the show (in the beginning when I thought the character and actress might grow). I am simply countering your statement, "Lindsay carries the show". I don't find that to be true - even in today's standards where the bar has been severely lowered does this statement hold true. If you are going to say that Lindsay carries the show, you have to also acknowledge her contributions to its failure. Can't have it both ways. Reilly and the ORIGINAL cast in its entirety are responsible for the small success, but Reilly ALONE is to be held accountable for the abysmal level to which the show sank. I have watched Lindsay play one note since 1999. In 2004, my viewing went to off and on. In 2006, I tossed out the trash, but I never saw anything different because Lindsay was never given anything different. How can we say she is a great actress who singlehandedly held together a show when we have seen her play the most one - dimensional character in the history of NBC? But Lindsay is not alone. Many suffer from this. They have had nothing to work with, but the audience still tuned it. My guess is that acting has little to do with this. Wanting to see Lindsay's face onscreen daily, AND, SADLY, GETTING THAT, is NOT equivalent to her being an amazing actress. I am a McKenzie fan, but I realize she needs alot of work also. Now she will get that. Let me remind you that Lindsay is not the only one to be given crap. It just seems that way because she was force-fed to the audience EVERY DAMN DAY! All of the actors and performer/models were given trash, and many of them stepped up because they are professionals! Let's not confuse our favorites with award winning actors/actresses. That would be a mistake! ANDREA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PhoenixRising05 Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 Your missing my point. Yes, Lindsey is a fave of mine but so was MW and I had been criticizing her acting for the past few years as being way under par. Yes, There have been times where Theresa has been one note but even Theresa haters acknowledge the fact that Lindsey is probably one of the best actresses on the show and on daytime. The fact that she can make Theresa even remotely interesting is a tribute to her talent. You say she has been one note since 1999. How is that? We have seen her go from good girl with obsession to making horrible mistakes and being misunderstood. She then got roped in with Alistair, was raped repeatedly, and then we saw her even becoming Alistair-like for a bit. Finally, last summer, she tried to move on paqst Ethan but he didn't alow that. There are many things to bash Passions for and rightfully so but Theresa has not been one note since 1999. No way. Even in moments when she was, Lindsey gave her all and tried to keep Theresa multi-faceted. Lindsey does emotional scenes very well and, if people don't think she is a great actress, why is she cited by many critics as being a young actress who would've taken home an emmy already if she were elsewhere? When the show began it's downward spiral, she and her fanbase is what kept what many from quitting. I am usually against saying anyone carries a show but in this case it's true. She is the most popular character on Passions hands down. You may not agree with it and you don't have to. You just seem to be channeling alot of your frustration and anger with the show onto her and that is unfair. You also don't seem to be a Theresa fan so you are probably sick of her or something. I can't even blame the bad actors because the writing was terrible and Passions hired them so it's not their fault. JER and the rest of the Passions team is at fault. Theresa being on everyday is not why Passions struggled. Passions was never balanced screentime-wise. They always had a fairly smaller cast and the same people were always front-burner. Sheridan and Luis used to be the same as Theresa in terms of screentime. Now we see Luis and Fancy in that boat and Theresa up there too. It's the way it is. I am not confusing my favorite actors with award winners. I know Lindsey is good and I would say that if I liked her or not. For instance, I don't care for Treven St. John from OLTL but I know he is a great actor. I'm objective but I am not sure if you are. I will just agree to disagree with you on this but you are definitely in the minority on Lindsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mason Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 Back to the issue at hand, even if PASSIONS does miraculously find a way to continue being broadcast (a BIG if, in and of itself), it won't last long. I don't want to burst anyone's bubble here, but you're dreaming if you honestly believe it will be successfully moved to primetime on NBC or to another network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 Lindsey Hartley deserves to be inducted into the Sainthood. B!tch be a trooper, let me tell ya. And the reason I am singling her out over GG and MW is because their acting sucks. And LH rocks and has carried this show for far too long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ANDREA LOATHES REILLY Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 Not quite the argument I was hoping for, and of course, I don't agree with this. Not one individual has carried this show, and if we were to look at this empiracally as we disprove your argument, the ratings archive could settle this very easily. But again, if LH carried the show, that certainly explains the cancellation. ANDREA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nassaunew Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 Andrea, it's like having Shaquille O'Neill playing on a subpar basketball team (terms of structure not just other players' qualification). At the end, the team may lose, but Shaq keeps them in the game and helps give the team some recognition/buzz that most likely would not have been there without him. Theresa is the most well-known character based on message boards and even people who I have met who may have watched Passions at one time. They may not know her by name, but they know about her (long-lasting) storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PhoenixRising05 Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 Agreed King and I agree with you too nassaunew. That is exactly what I am saying. I can't wait to see where Lindsey lands next. If Passions does move somewhere (and that is a big IF), they will need her but I wouldn't stay if I were her. This is her big chance to go somewhere where her talents will be utilized to their fullest potential. She is a future emmy winner. No doubt about it. I also want to see what Emily Harper does because she is in the same boat as Lindsey right now only she has only had to put up with a few months of crap while Lindsey has had to put up with years of it. Both Lindsey and Emily have BIG futures ahead (maybe more Lindsey then Emily but I digress). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 Andrea, love your SON name by the way. The complete opposite of what mine was! (It used to be King Reilly if you didn't know!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JER Soaps Fan Posted March 6, 2007 Members Share Posted March 6, 2007 See, I don't see it that way. I'm not sure it works both ways; hence the double standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JER Soaps Fan Posted March 6, 2007 Members Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'm sorry, Andrea, but LINDSAY? One-note? HOw is that even possible?! The reason why Theresa, this otherwise obsessive, psychotic !@#$%^&*] even has any fans and a huge following of Theresa, Ethan/Theresa fans is because Lindsay brings a vulnerability to the character that not many actresses could easily muster. Many fans do feel sorry for, root for or even love this character and forgive her for all her wrongs. You just have to look at ANY "Passions" message board, no matter which site, to see that the No. 1 topic ALWAYS has to do with the everlasting Ethan/Gwen/Theresa debate. Most of that is because of Lindsay's acting and the vulnerability she brings to the role. Otherwise, fans wouldn't be so incredible divided over whether Theresa is a "terror" or a "dreamer." Say what you will about the show itself, but when it comes to Lindsay, the boards themselves suggest how great a performer she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JER Soaps Fan Posted March 6, 2007 Members Share Posted March 6, 2007 BRILLIANTLY said, nass. You have summed it up perfectly. Now we can only hope that your explanation is received in the spirit with which it was sent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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