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History Of Reva Shayne Lewis Lewis Spaulding Lewis Winslow Cooper Lewis Lewis (aka The Brooke Logan Of GL)

Made history by "baptizing" herself as the "Slut Of Springfield" in a public fountain

Cloned (made from her DNA)

Princess of San Cristobel

Suffered from amnesia

Civil War belle

Amish & French woman

Saved illegal aliens from death

Talk show host

Psychic

Gave son up for adoption

Hit by a car driven by Vanessa

Jumped into the river from a bridge

Had pnuemonia

hit over the head by Cain

Poisoned by Sonni

Drove car off bridge

Involved in a car crash

Involved in a plane crash

Died as clone Reva

Had a heart condition

Hit in the head with poker stick by Holly Norris Reade

Stabbed in the chest by Edmund

Time traveled; injured

Injured in a car explosion (in a coma and blind)

Injured as a result of an earthquake

Hit over the head by Carrie

Fell down elevator shaft

Had breast cancer

Vixen (having married a father and two sons of the same family)

Manic-depressive

Presumed dead multiple times

Reva might only be killed off if TPTB were desperate enough for ratings, buzz & awards. Just imagine the fallout surrounding Zimmer's permanent departure. I'm sure a few records will be broken. I don't think she should be killed off, she's too important to GL's history, however, she should be backburned for at least a year & a half.

Zimmer is a good actress, not a great one like the way Faye Dunaway, Ellen Burstyn, Marcia Cross, Teri Hatcher & Perter Bergman are.

I also think that her breast cancer SL was tailored for the Daytime Emmys, but it failed due to Wheeler's poor execution & Kreizman's bad writing. I just can't stand to see Wheeler screaming her head off & clapping her hands til they turn red again at this year's Daytime Emmys. Last year was disgusting enough! :angry:

Why do TPTB think GL is great? Looks like Wheeler & Kreizman are here to stay. :lol: GL isn't horrible, but it's far from its glory days.

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I used to put some credibility in that statement but it is the most trite overused expression and has lost all meaning.

When everyone wants to put GL down or Wheeler & Kreitzman (who I agree are not the greatest) they pull out this statement.

Yes GL is not as good as it once was but neither is AMC, ATWT, B&B, Days (even under Hogan), GH, OLTL, Passions, or Y&R.

None of them are living up to their glory days. Not one of them.

GL has the lowest budget of any of them giving them the least to work with. They are the only soap out of the 9 that doesn't air in all markets and is affected most by altered time slots in the markets they are shown. Yet they manage to beat many of the other soaps at times. In the last few months even with Days being in a big upsurge right now GL has beaten them many times in the daily ratings or tied them.

Wheeler and Kreitzman might not be great, but they are achieving something that the other soaps aren't and doing it on a shoestring budget. And the shows they are producing are lots better than the others many days and that includes Days of Our Lives, Young & the Restless or General Hospital - and I single them out because I hear many people calling them the best shows on daytime right now.

And I do not want to see Zimmer killed off. Because with someone like Reva you know that when Wheeler or Kreitzman are fired (if they are before GL goes off the air) the first thing that some producer or headwriter is going to do is find a way to bring her back to life.

The hacks that get jobs on daytime these days seem like that is the only thing they can do anymore. Figure out a popular character from the past and work on reviving that dead character and bringing them back. Even Hogan who is regarded by many to be the best writer in daytime these days couldn't do any better than that. One of the first things he does when he gets to Days is revive Stefano DiMera for the 1000th time. That is the most overdone things in Days current history and even a great writer like Hogan couldn't resist doing it.

The writers of today are all hacks including Hogan and I once regarded him highly. So far I still haven't lost all respect for Lynn Latham. She is reviving Sheila but at least she is taking some risks with the story and giving it a different twist.

So I say all that to say Wheeler and Kreitzman aren't all that bad - not great but not that bad either. And no please don't kill Reva because I couldn't stand another rise from the dead for her.

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I actually disagree because DK/EW gave Beth Ehlers one of the biggest storylines of 2004 when Phillip died. From the moment Harley saw Gus and Alex in the basement of The Beacon and said her would be wedding vows and the infamous line, "I will never marry you!" Was Emmy bait for Beth Ehlers that didn't work. Even though GL's stories are poorly written at times at least they realize that they need to give their leading ladies a story! I mean DAYS fans went time and time again without Dee Hall having a story. OLTL fans are angry that Erika Slezak doesn't have a love interest...at least GL's leading lady, one of them because Ehlers is the other and 2005 was ALL ABOUT HARLEY! So I don't think Kim gets all the leading, Emmy bait storylines. If she did then Ehlers, Gina Tognoni, Crystall Chappell and Mandy Bruno wouldn't have scored Emmy nods in 2005.

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I think Guiding Light does very well at balancing airtime among its contract heroines.

There's plenty of story left for Reva. The way they have her now as protector of Jonathan and Lizzie, sparring with Alan, and protector of Billy, sparring with Sheila, totally works for me. I also think that while she is doing this, a continued romance with Cal would be great.

But, ultimately, Josh and Reva will get back together. I was only 7 years old when I first saw Guiding Light in the summer of 1989, but even I could tell then that Reva and Josh (along with the Spauldings, and Roger and Holly) were the stars of the show. There's nothing wrong with that.

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ITA! Time to put old Bessie out of our misery. KZ is one - if not THE - most overrated actress on daytime. I can't stand the way she rants and raves to the press and still has a job. If other actors on the show did that, they would get their asses canned.

Robert Newman is so much better an actor than she is an actress. I will say that he has also had some shitty storylines but how often do you see him running his mouth off to the press? Rarely. He has class and IMHO Kim does NOT.

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What do you mean by that? People would tune in to watch her exit because there are a lot of Reva fans, but they wouldn't stick around.

I find it scary that one of the few veteran characters left on GL, is the target of such much ire. Do we really want to encourage more firings of vets?

It's not a question of Reva gets airtime vs. Alex or Holly -- it's a question of Reva vs. someone like Ava. Given that, I of course prefer Reva.

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They should at the very least backburner Reva for awhile. She has been on way too much for the past few years. Give others a chance to shine. I much prefer Liz Keifer and she gets 1/12th of Reva's time. Gag me.

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P.S. Are we really supposed to believe that Josh still wants Reva after everything? She treats him like garbage and he takes it. I can't imagine what he could see in her and Jeva Part 2,005 is not something I want to see. This is ruining GL for me - including the overexposure of Ava.

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Oh publicly refusing to take a pay cut is just the tip of the iceburg lol

I still remember reading a feature article in SOD a few years ago where she bemoaned her "lack of storyline" and that she would not put up with it. Also she said she would quit if they didn't give her her due.

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Exactly, if Reva were gone, GL is as good as gone. That's not my opinion, that's the truth. There are a ton of Reva fans, and if she's no longer on the show, it's not like there's anything else on right now to hold their interest.

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BARNUM     4/30/1980 - 5/16/1982    Replacement -- Charley Barnum  3/3/1981 - ???? ONE NIGHT STAND    (Never Officially Opened)  10/25/1980   Amanda Klein SHAKESPEARE'S CABARET   1/21/1981 - 3/8/1981    Catherine BABY     12/4/1983  - 7/1/1984    Pam Sakarian    **** DRAMA DESK AWARD WINNER -- OUTSTANDING ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL OH COWARD!    11/17/1986 - 1/3/1987       **** TONY AWARD NOMINEE -- BEST ACTRESS N A MUSICAL RUMORS     11/17/1988 - 2/24/1990    Replacement -- Chris Gorman FOOTLOOSE    10/22/1998 - 7/2/2000      Ethel McCormack TOURING GODSPELL    10/22/1972 - 7/28/1973       Understudy GODSPELL   9/10/1973 - 6/23/1974   Performer GODSPELL     1976 " Bless the Lord"        National Tour MUSIC IS   1976      Viola       National Tur SIDE BY SIDE BY SONDHEIM     1979 STARTING HERE, STARTING NOW CITY OF ANGELS   7/4/1991 - 11/24/1992     Replacement -- Oolie; Donna THEATER COMPANY     1977     Amy    Heinz Hall    Pittsburgh, PA RAP MASTER RONNIE    1984                Village Gate Upstairs IN TROUSERS     1985      His Wife    Promenade Theatre WONDERFUL TOWN    1988      Ruth Sherwood    Goodspeed Opera House    East Haddam, CT THE WAVES     1990    Rhoda    New York Theatre Workshop GODSPELL    2000  York Theatre   NYC HOT AND SWEET    (Staged Reading)   2000    Dodge Stages   NYC ANNIE      2002     Miss Hannigan    Paper Mill Playhouse   Millburn, NJ MEMPHIS      (World Premiere)  2003    Ensemble; Susie; Patti Page; Clara   Understudy -- Gladys Calhoun   North Shore Music Theatre    Beverly, MA MAME     2004   Mame Dennis    Merry Go Round Players     Auburn, NY RICHARD CORY     2005     Mrs. Baker    NY Musical Theatre Festival Production INSPECTING CAROL     2006     Zorah Bloch      George Street Playhouse   New Brunswick, NJ MARRIED ALIVE!      2008      Diane     Gulfshore Playhouse     Naples, FL MEMORY IS THE MOTHER OF ALL WISDOM    2009     Mother    Barrington Stage Company Stage II     Pittsfield, MA THE MEMORY SHOW     2010     Mother     Barrington Stage Company Stage II     Pittsfield, MA VOTE FOR ME: A MUSICAL DEBATE      2010    Governor Janet Tilghman    Urban Stages Theater   NYC FLAMBE DREAMS   2012     Elaine Christiansen     45th Street Theatre THE MEMORY SHOW     2013    Mother   The Duke on 42nd Street BY STROUSE IT'S BETTER WITH A BAND SWING SHIFT!      Vera       Theatre by the Sea Marriages      Keith Hermann   ???? - ????       Divorced      David Evans     1986 - Present    2 Children     THE ORIGINAL ARTICULETTE         SHERITA BOLDEN   BEYOND THE GATES     Barbara that founded the Articulettes   (v)  6/3/2025              Works Behind the Scenes as a Booth Production Assistant     2025 PodCast THE YATRA SISTERS     Co-Host and Organizer       DETECTING LESLIE'S IMAGE?           DREY WIGFALL     Born   Andre DeShawn Wigfall                  6/25/1981 - Present BEYOND THE GATES    D. C. Metro Analyst -- Detective __ Walker    6/2/2025 and YO MOMMA      Self           2006   ALL THE QUEEN'S MEN      Officer Green    2023 movies SOLICIT BEHAVIOR     Mr. Young     2007    (Made for T. V.) KISSING STRANGERS    Jeff     2010 THE CANADOO   Derrick     2016 A SOUL BURDENED    Corporal Marcus Andre Hughes    2021 IT HAPPENED IN THE 4TH QUARTER   Mr. Gaines    2023 THE COMEBACK     Paul    2023 ZOMBIE VIRAL STUDIO     RADIO SLAVERY: THE MAKING OF AMERICA Upcoming MEND      TBA    Pre Production THEATER IN THE BLOOD           University of South Carolina MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM     Trustus Theatre         FOUND KAT LURKING                RICH LOWE       Also Credited as  Rich Lowe Ikenna           8/10/1987 - Present BEYOND THE GATES     Darius -- Hotel Employee   6/6/2025 and BUBBLY BROWN SUGAR      Caleb     2018 Upcoming INTERTWINED PROOF OF CONCEPT     David     TBA     Pre Production movies SEVEN MILES FROM FOREVER    Joshua Wright     VERA'S HOLIDAY FLOP       Ex-Husband      THE LEAST OF ALL     Matthew Reynolds    2017 THE GREAT WAR     Corporal Johnson    2019 HYPOCRITE     Eddie Ogden    2019 THE ORATORY     2021 HEARTBEAT   Cliff     2022 COME OUT FIGHTING   Private Michael "Salty" Buttons     2022 Upcoming    LIONEL       TBA     Completed THEATER THE ROYALE     2017     Fish      Raymond James Theatre     Saint Petersburg, FL         E. M. T.                       NILES AUSTIN      1/8/1994 - Present BEYOND THE GATES      E. M. T.     4/17/2025; 6/6/2025 Appeared on the series SINS OF THE CITY (2023). movies SIGNUM    Michael   2024 Currently working as a studio assistant at Dream Inc.  BTG Recurring actress Jerri Tubbs works there as an Instructor.           Kenjah  (McNeil)    pg. 445 BEYOND THE GATES     Dr. Madison Montgomery     6/4/2025 - Present   Adam Chambers    pg. 445 DAYS OF OUR LIVES     Dave the Skydiving Instructor           June 6,  2025 Leann Hunley       pg. 425   DAYS OF OUR LIVES     Anna Fredericks Brady DiMera    8/2/1982 - 7/10/1986; 6/21/2007 - 4/2/2009; 12/10/2009- 6/5/2010; 1/9/2017 - 2/16/2017; 1/5/2018 - 2/14/2018; 8/9/2019 -  4/21/2020; 12/18/2020 - 5/31/2023;   6/6/2025 - Present     One more on the way!      
    • Oh wow. After reading your post, I realized that they had "Carl Ivati" in the script AGAIN yesterday June 6.    Eva said she was reading his latest, and Tomas said "Work's been so busy, I haven't had time to get into his new series". Then Eva proceeds to tell him that "the first book is called 'Mercy and Goodness' and it's all about how the couple first met and how they got separated".   She goes on and on about how great it is. And she says she has the book in her hotel room if he wants to borrow it. She says it has twists and turns. And meanwhile Kat is snooping in Eva's room to look for the helmet and gloves, and finds the book and dismisses it as "basic". I saw that whole scene -- but I wasn't paying attention to the name of the author.  And when Tomas said the name, I heard it in his accent so I didn't hear "carlivati".  II was mainly trying to see if the acting had improved with the actor playing Tomas, and I think he has improved somewhat.   I only see it when typed out. So they had several scenes yesterday about a "Carl Ivati" book?  Barf! Well at least Kat had the good sense to dismiss it as "basic". Ron Carlivati wrote the breakdown yesterday!   Featuring himself in it! Addressing to the collective "you" whoever you may be: Some of you, months ago, said Oh Ron is only doing breakdowns.  The story comes from MVJ, so he won't influence things, you said. May 27 started it, with Christopher Dunn breakdown and Lynn Martin script. But they didn't need to continue it June 6 with Carlivati breakdown and Jazmen Darnell Brown script.
    • I was completely lost. But it is wonderful that it exists. I didn't really know Robert Mandan had done soaps...well, besides SOAP.
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