Members SouthOfSoap Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 I agree with you 100%, but I think it doesn't work that way because of guarantees. For example, a vet like Matt or Renee say earnes $16000 and a newbie earns $4000 (I'm making these numbers up - but it fits the 4 newbies for 1 vet ratio you mentioned). The vet has in his contract a g'tee to appear say 2 times a week for which his salary is covered. If he appears less than 2 times a week, he still collects his $16000 at the end of the month. But if he gets extra cash for appearing more than twice a week - I have no idea how much per episode but lets use $2000. So if you fire the 4 newbies, the vet would likely have to appear 4 times a week on average in more scenes (which sounds great ). In a 4 week month thats an extra $16 000 a month - salary doubled to $32 000. No saving is made from firing the 4 newbies, but the vet may get burnout (and he/she may make the audience turn off from overexposure). But if you fire the vet and make the nebies appear 3 times a week (scenes spread more thinly because of the numbers) their collective take home at $500 extra per episode, is $24 000, ($4000 * 4 + $500 * 4 * 4) and comes in 1/4 cheaper than the vet with no newbies options. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ponz Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 I know FOR A FACT that Matt was earning nowhere near 4 times the salary of Farah Fath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaysGal Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 I really hate that Sofia Geier was let go. She was the one dialogue writer I could count on writing a good show. But the fact remains, that Beth Milstein is still on staff, for which I'm grateful. I would have rather she be in Meg Kelly's position as opposed to associate HW. I think Hogan does have control of the writing staff. I just wonder why its taken him so long to get rid of the Reilly flunkies. I never liked Bruce Neckels at all. As for the character of Roman Brady, I would absolutely love it if John was Roman. Josh Taylor was wrongly casted in this role by Corday because of the friendship thing. Josh just doesn't have the chemistry with the rest of the Brady family, especially Bo/Peter Reckell. I think Drake does, and of course Wayne Northrup always did. But, I think maybe Josh could be worked around to play a different character if he has to be kept at all. Preferably, I would rather see him leave Days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SouthOfSoap Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 I don't doubt that because Fath has been there since 1999, and is not a newbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billyjill Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Yes, that was where I was coming from. I wasn't trying to say nothing was Hogan's doing, but who made what decision specifically is all speculation. It's fine to speculate as long as you remember it's just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KevC1980 Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 King skip last week, but this week and next week are supposed to be very good..Ditch the blog and watch the show..Does anyone even read these blogs on here? No offense, but it seems like everyone and their mother has one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Does anyone ever read the blogs? Where have you been! My blog got 900 hits last week. Juniorz's gets more than that, methinks. It's sad to say but every DAYS blog on SON is better than the show right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 I'm really getting back into DAYS lately and really liking the direction things are heading in. But King's right, the DAYS blogs are better. As for whether anyone reads them........today I logged on and found a comment from someone in HUNGARY!! They just joined SON today. People read the blogs, trust me. Hell, I'd venture to say that there are some guests & members that come to SON specifically for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricaKane4life Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Why does everybody take everything so LITERAL? We were using an analogy, a hypothetical example. No need for all the knit-picking. The basic POINT of the matter remains true--it's a BUSINESS and because of the budget and the low ratings of today's soaps, they can't afford these extravagant casts that we used to have. A mid-rated soap used to get a 5.0 or a 5.6.....a top show would score 9.8 or 10.2 Those days (and the "budgets") are GONE FOREVER. It's not Hogan Sheffer's fault and no matter how much he loves certain characters, he will have to fire people he likes just like everybody else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricaKane4life Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 You took it deeper than the example I set, but you're TOTALLY RIGHT. That is exactly what the problem is. You have to pay enormous DOUGH for the "STARZ", their agents work out these huge contracts as they become more and more popular. Regardless of how a writer really likes an actor, the BUSINESS SIDE of show biz always rules the day and that was my point. I still insist that anybody that Hogan WANTS to be on that show--will be there. Corday is not firing anybody that Hogan wants to write for. That's absurd. IF....IF Jason's report is true about the writing staff, then it just proves what I'm saying, because not even the all powerful James Reilly was allowed to fire Corday's "class pets"---Sofia Landon and Peter Brash or any other of Wyman's picks. Reilly was allowed about 3 or 4 writers of his choosing and the rest were Corday and Wyman's. On any show---the HW rarely gets to pick or control his entire writing team. The EP does that. We also have to remember that Corday fought very hard to bring Sheffer to "DAYS". Hogan DID NOT want to come to Days of Our Lives. He was wooed and begged for months by Corday and Wyman to please come save their show. An official announcement of him joining the staff was held off for months and months because of the negotiation of his contract. Everybody in the industry kept saying that Sheffer wanted "Artistic Control" over the show or he wasn't coming. In the end, Corday gave Sheffer everything he wanted in order to get him on board, and I believe he made the right decision. The transition is bumpy and there's no way to please all of the people all of the time, but if Sheffer is given time and control, he will turn this show into a major force in daytime. He is a good writer and he knows how to make an award-winning product. The budget, however, will always be a problem for any writer in daytime t.v. It's not like the old days anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ponz Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 I'm not knit-picking. You implied that Matt was earning significantly more than the younger actors on the cast and I know this not to be the case. Matt took a substantial pay cut to return in 04. His salary was well short of other vets like Missy, Peter, Kristian and even younger actors such as Jason Cook. I don't believe Matt's firing had much to do with budget concerns. As soon as Missy's departure was confirmed, I feared Corday would pull the plug on Matt's contract. He always viewed Matt & Missy as a package deal and never really saw the value of Jack as an individual character. His actions in the past back up that assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricaKane4life Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 And if HOGAN wanted Matt Ashford on the show, he would BE THERE. I think that's very obvious to anyone who's watching how the show is being retooled. Whatever Hogan wants, they're giving it to him. He obviously didn't want to keep Matt Ashford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bree Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 They should have kept Peter Brash and SLG. They know how to write intelligent, heartfelt dialogue, especially SLG. I'm glad Neckels is gone. You could usually tell the episodes that had his pen all over them. Beth really needs to be co-head writer, and put Meg Kelly down in her place. I do appreciate Sheffer trying to rejuvenate DAYS, because after the bog that Reilly had it in, change was needed. However, he and TPTB should be doing these changes slowly. They're getting rid of too many people too quickly. Unless the show comes forth with some great storytelling and writing, I think more and more fans will be leaving the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mason Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 ITA. The changes need to be much more gradual, especially since DAYS fans (myself included) are notorious for being particularly sensitive. Milstein should most definitely be Co-HW, and Brash, SLG, and Schoettle should be staying on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ponz Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 It's not obvious at all that HS is being given what he wants. He has publicly stated that several of the firings went against his own plans and were influenced by NBC/Corday Productions. For all we know, Corday allowing HS to fire these writers is a compromise because Corday has meddled in casting decisions. There's a BIG difference between having control over a couple of writing appointments and having control over casting. You really think it would as easy for HS to fire Josh Taylor as it was for him to axe Peter Brash (assuming this e-mail is true)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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