If you're going to copy/paste, please credit. That's all I ask...it's not that hard. I take time to type up these numbers and it takes a while. Also curse to all you mean spirited thieves. I hope you get run over by a truck, but of course I don't wish death on you....a few broken bones will do justice. Curse you!! Thanks.

Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

Ratings for the week August 28 - September 1, 2006

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers

1. Y&R 5,763,000 (+39,000/+588,000)

2. B&B 4,281,000 (+63,000/+205,000)

3. ATWT 3,440,000 (+88,000/+205,000)

4. DAYS 3,357,000 (-16,000/+362,000)

5. GH 3,076,000 (-185,000/-135,000)

6. OLTL 3,011,000 (-203,000/-69,000)

7. AMC 2,986,000 (-154,000/+68,000)

8. GL 2,943,000 (+15,000/+135,000)

9. PSNS 1,829,000 (+46,000/-268,000)

HH

1. Y&R 4.3/15 (-.1/+.3)

2. B&B 3.2/11 (same/same)

3. ATWT 2.6/9 (+.1/+.1)

3. DAYS 2.6/8 (-.1/+.2)

5. GH 2.4/8 (-.1/-.2) <---------- ties low rating

6. OLTL 2.3/8 (-.1/-.2) <-------- ties low rating

6. AMC 2.3/8 (-.1/-.1) <--------- new low rating

8. GL 2.2/7 (same/same)

9. PSNS 1.5/5 (same/-.2)

Women 18-49 Viewers

1. Y&R 1,550,000 (+83,000/+305,000)

2. DAYS 1,325,000 (+97,000/+230,000)

3. GH 1,177,000 (-51,000/+35,000)

4. B&B 1,124,000 (+133,000/+35,000)

5. OLTL 1,086,000 (-66,000/-34,000)

6. AMC 1,032,000 (+4,000/-14,000)

7. ATWT 964,000 (+108,000/+209,000)

8. PSNS 883,000 (+44,000/+59,000)

9. GL 852,000 (+110,000/+149,000)

Women 18-49 Rating

1. Y&R 2.3/16 (+.1/+.4)

2. DAYS 2.0/12 (+.1/+.3)

3. GH 1.8/11 (-.1/+.1)

4. B&B 1.7/11 (+.2/same)

5. AMC 1.6/10 (same/same)

5. OLTL 1.6/10 (-.2/-.1)

7. ATWT 1.4/9 (+.1/+.2)

8. PSNS 1.3/8 (same/same)

8. GL 1.3/8 (+.2/+.2)

Girls 12-17 Viewers

1. GH 66,0000 (-16,000/-21,000)

2. DAYS 65,000 (-27,000/+4,000)

3. AMC 64,000 (-7,000/+9,000)

4. OLTL 59,000 (-27,000/-15,000)

5. PSNS 48,000 (-32,000/-17,000)

6. ATWT 38,000 (-22,000/+11,000)

7. Y&R 30,000 (-5,000/-18,000)

8. B&B 20,000 (-9,000/-14,000)

9. GL 18,000 (-31,000/-32,000)

Women 18-34 Rating

1. DAYS 2.0/12 (same/+.3)

2. Y&R 1.6/10 (+.1/+.3)

3. GH 1.5/10 (-.1/+.3)

4. PSNS 1.4/9 (-.1/same)

5. AMC 1.3/8 (+.1/+.2)

5. OLTL 1.3/8 (-.1/+.1)

7. ATWT 1.0/7 (same/+.1)

7. B&B 1.0/6 (same/-.1)

7. GL 1.0/6 (+.1/+.1)

Men 18+ Viewers

1. Y&R 1,329,000 (+60,000/+175,000)

2. B&B 976,000 (-26,000/+127,000)

3. ATWT 745,000 (same/+121,000)

4. GL 621,000 (-35,000/+66,000)

5. DAYS 616,000 (-5,000/+124,000)

6. AMC 470,000 (-51,000/-45,000)

7. OLTL 412,000 (-31,000/-78,000)

8. GH 390,000 (-75,000/-142,000)

9. PSNS 335,000 (+65,000/-98,000)

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Day-To-Day HH Ratings - HH/Total Viewers

AMC

Monday: 2.3/2,961,000

Tuesday: 2.3/3,112,000

Wednesday: 2.3/3,261,000

Thursday: 2.2/2,742,000

Friday: 2.3/2,857,000

ATWT

Monday: 2.7/3,613,000

Tuesday: 2.6/3,469,000

Wednesday: 2.7/3,482,000

Thursday: 2.5/3,320,000

Friday: 2.6/3,315,000

B&B

Monday: 3.3/4,548,000

Tuesday: 3.3/4,419,000

Wednesday: 3.4/4,372,000

Thursday: 3.1/4,000,000

Friday: 3.1/4,063,000

DAYS

Monday: 2.7/3,520,000

Tuesday: 2.6/3,356,000

Wednesday: 2.7/3,490,000

Thursday: 2.4/3,180,000

Friday: 2.5/3,238,000

GH

Monday: 2.5/3,215,000

Tuesday: 2.4/3,033,000

Wednesday: 2.5/3,263,000

Thursday: 2.3/2,905,000

Friday: 2.4/2,966,000

GL

Monday: 2.2/3,014,000

Tuesday: 2.2/2,865,000

Wednesday: 2.4/3,142,000

Thursday: 2.1/2,832,000

Friday: 2.2/2,863,000

OLTL

Monday: 2.4/3,082,000

Tuesday: 2.4/2,998,000

Wednesday: 2.4/3,208,000

Thursday: 2.2/2,770,000

Friday: 2.4/2,995,000

PSNS

Monday: 1.5/1,979,000

Tuesday: 1.5/1,872,000

Wednesday: 1.4/1,730,000

Thursday: 1.4/1,706,000

Friday: 1.5/1,857,000

Y&R

Monday: 4.5/6,099,000

Tuesday: 4.4/5,937,000

Wednesday: 4.4/5,742,000

Thursday: 4.2/5,568,000

Friday: 4.1/5,470,000

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For the SEASON September 19, 2005 through September 3, 2006

Total Viewers

1. Y&R 5,548,000

2. B&B 4,291,000

3. GH 3,402,000

4. ATWT 3,340,000

5. DAYS 3,293,000

6. AMC 3,240,000

7. OLTL 3,171,000

8. GL 2,831,000

9. PSNS 2,081,000

HH

1. Y&R 4.2

2. B&B 3.2

3. GH 2.7

4. ATWT 2.6

4. OLTL 2.6

4. DAYS 2.6

4. AMC 2.6

8. GL 2.2

9. PSNS 1.6

Women 18-49 Viewers

1. Y&R 1,386,000

2. GH 1,247,000

3. DAYS 1,234,000

4. OLTL 1,158,000

5. AMC 1,153,000

6. B&B 1,038,000

7. PSNS 888,000

8. ATWT 864,000

9. GL 806,000

Women 18-49 Rating

1. Y&R 2.1

2. GH 2.0

3. DAYS 1.9

4. OLTL 1.8

4. AMC 1.8

6. B&B 1.6

7. PSNS 1.4

8. ATWT 1.3

9. GL 1.2

Edited September 8, 200619 yr by Rick

Cal, I agree that ABCD is playing a very dangerous game with lapsed viewers. Speaking as a viewer on the edge of packing it in, once I do it will be hard to get me back. I'm starting to hold grudges, make ultimata about returning and down the road comes the indifference of "it's just another TV show" and "TV shows come and go all the time" - except soaps are not just regular TV shows and given their format must rely on stronger viewer loyalty than that. I'm angry, I'm frustrated, and I'm asking if it's all worth it - OVER A TV SHOW!

I've done my bit. I've given OLTL decades of loyalty; I've stuck it out while others gave up ages ago. But if they don't care anymore why should I? It feels as though my show ended years ago and I'm one of the last to know. ( sounds like OLTL and I need a marriage counsellor! - well often a marriage counsellor's job is to tell the partners when to call it a day)

I'm not at the point of no return yet for OLTL but I'm long past it with AMC and GH; I left them a while ago and haven't looked back (at least not on my TV screen). Once I reach that point with OLTL, and believe me the resentment will be even greater for my once favorite, I won't be back no matter what the improvements.

Cal, I agree that ABCD is playing a very dangerous game with lapsed viewers. Speaking as a viewer on the edge of packing it in, once I do it will be hard to get me back. I'm starting to hold grudges, make ultimata about returning and down the road comes the indifference of "it's just another TV show" and "TV shows come and go all the time" - except soaps are not just regular TV shows and given their format must rely on stronger viewer loyalty than that. I'm angry, I'm frustrated, and I'm asking if it's all worth it - OVER A TV SHOW!

I've done my bit. I've given OLTL decades of loyalty; I've stuck it out while others gave up ages ago. But if they don't care anymore why should I? It feels as though my show ended years ago and I'm one of the last to know. ( sounds like OLTL and I need a marriage counsellor! - well often a marriage counsellor's job is to tell the partners when to call it a day)

I'm not at the point of no return yet for OLTL but I'm long past it with AMC and GH; I left them a while ago and haven't looked back (at least not on my TV screen). Once I reach that point with OLTL, and believe me the resentment will be even greater for my once favorite, I won't be back no matter what the improvements.

Me too.

I've noticed that I have had a complete change in attitude with regard to OLTL. There is something almost passive aggressive about the content of the show at this point which is inspiring my new tude towards the show. Under JFP and Tomlin I got bored and was just short of gone but I didn't have an anger towards the show. Now I'm angry. The manipulation is so in your face it's appalling. Add to that the bad writing, the bad acting and the vision to transform OLTL into some new show and I'm not in for the ride.

I think what Christmas at Llanfair will be this year or will it be more of a Vega/Williamson Christmas with Viki sitting alone?

I think what Christmas at Llanfair will be this year or will it be more of a Vega/Williamson Christmas with Viki sitting alone?

If Llanfair is mentioned at all this Christmas, it will be about everyone dancing to the tune of "let's make this a good Christmas for poor traumatized John McBain"

I think what Hogan Sheffer said in his interview is true: DAYS is the only soap that still has lapsed viewers out there just waiting for it to get good again. It seems all the other soap viewers have given up on their respective shows, but if something were to turn around (which it soon will) on DAYS, the audience would come back.

As for GL, if only they could've beat AMC and/or OLTL just this one week! Josh & Reva's ITL last week was the highest rated show of the week (2.4) as well it should be because the confrontation between the two was gripping drama and the on-location shots of them on the ship were beautiful.

I really wish GL had something up their sleeve though, because it seems the show is just treading water, creatively speaking. The success or failure of the show can't rely on Reva's cancer story. If only they'd get rid of useless people like Frank and Ava, they could afford to pay Grant Aleksander to act and direct. If he can direct at ATWT, then why not back at GL?

I believe Hogan's theory on this one.You can look at the ratings archives from just the early 80's when it was in a ratings slump.Days can easily get their viewers back because the fans will watch when the show it is really good.Even when Reilly first came back he was able to bring back viwers temporarily when the Salem Stalker Killings.The show was dying under Higley's pen.The show even hit a 4.1 rating the day Marlena was revealed as the killer and put it right behind Y&R for weeks and then the novelty wore off.There is an audience of lapsed viewers obviously because they know Reilly is gone and soon good things are to come.Long Live Days.Hopefully if and when Hogan Sheffer makes the ratings rise that DAYs contract expires in 2009 that there would be now trouble with renewal.

There is something about Days that always made me as a former viewer want to go back. Now that I have gone back, it's a good show. I have to agree with Hogan, viewers do want to go back to that show. I don't know about ABC soaps. With me, it's more than just not liking the show right now. It's the disrespect that viewers are shown by the network and shows.

The outpouring of support for Dan and Heather made absolutely no difference to ABC. I almost see Frons and Frank sitting in a big office smoking cigars and laughing about the fallout. The same thing applies to the total destruction of the Buchanans and the elevation of the Vegas and Williamsons. People don't like it, and it shows in the ratings, in viewer feedback and they just don't care.

So I think there is a difference between a lapsed fan, which DOOL has, and fans who don't see the same show anymore. OLTL is not OLTL anymore. I don't know what it is, but I don't recognize this show. Toups, I'm not sure backstage changes can make a difference if the core of these shows is gone.

What is stunning to me is the disrespect for viewers and also what appears to be a total, total misunderstanding of what inspires people to watch daytime. One last note: soaps aren't in trouble. Daytime soaps are. Nightime is returning to a soap format on many shows -- Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, ect. and those shows are rocking. Daytime might consider returning to what daytime does bes t-- good traditional character driven soaps -- like Grey's Anatomy. I think that is what Days is doing now.

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What is stunning to me is the disrespect for viewers and also what appears to be a total, total misunderstanding of what inspires people to watch daytime.

Exactly!

Your probably right Steve. I was just looking for something positive

And to your signature

Wowzas! You have picked up PSNS again

Yes and now my local affiliate is moving ATWT back to 1 o'clock opposite it. I have never stopped watching ATWT and don't see giving it up, but what I have watched of Passions has been pretty good, and I am looking forward to JER pushing the limits in October.

I will just have to get my VCR working.

The ABC soaps are trying too hard to look modern and cutting edge, especially AMC. The scenes in the bar are like watching a music video. Also, someone mentioned that the camera isn't as shaky as it used to be. True, but they should just go back to the original camera work. Their writing is already shaky enough.

For the SEASON September 19, 2005 through September 3, 2006

How is this calculated? As an average?

The ABC soaps are trying too hard to look modern and cutting edge, especially AMC. The scenes in the bar are like watching a music video. Also, someone mentioned that the camera isn't as shaky as it used to be. True, but they should just go back to the original camera work. Their writing is already shaky enough.

After having sampled a full week of MyNetworkTV, I believe AMC experimented with this to look as "cool" as those shows do, sort of as a pre-emptive strike.

Think about it: in addition to competing with daytime TV, AMC is also competing with primetime TV. SOAPnet and MyNetworkTV are in direct competition with each other for the 8 and 9PM hour.

I expect to see all the ABC shows go "film-look" crazy by 2007.

After having sampled a full week of MyNetworkTV, I believe AMC experimented with this to look as "cool" as those shows do, sort of as a pre-emptive strike.

I think this is probably true, plus I read a quote somewhere that it's cheaper (probably the primary reason).

Alternate theory, JHC is trying to appear as though she's actually doing something as EP.

Alternate theory, JHC is trying to appear as though she's actually doing something as EP.

Yes, we've all had ineffectual bosses who resort to the "THUMBPRINT TACTIC", as in, this is the only mark I can make.

As long as the ABCD soaps concentrate on the look rather than the substance they will continue to fail. If the story, acting and characterization is bad then the filming, set and shirtless men aren't going to save it and when the film quality, sets and shirtless men aren't all that then it only makes a bad product an even worse product.

Example, I've never ever liked DF's Chris. I've always found him to be one note and boring and I've always found his Chris to be strident and hard to like when viewed against YM's Chris. I also don't find DF all that in the looks department. I know I will not tape OLTL to see him parade around without his shirt.

I'm actually surprised, as a longtime B&B viewer, that B&B's ratings haven't taken a big dive yet considering the truly PITIFUL state Bell is running the show into. Character assassinations galore, boring and repetitive storylines, the list of complaints could go on and the only saving grace will be any stellar performances the likes of Susan Flannery can put on.

OK, I'll rant here if I can. People like to cite the OJ Simpson trial, having more women in the workforce, etc as prime factors in soap ratings' decline. They may or may not be factors, but IMHO they are NOT the prime reason for soaps' sharply falling viewership.

No no.

The reason soaps have fallen so much since 2000 is because the quality of most of the soaps on air now has deteriorated alarmingly. Until 2000 or so, the ratings decline over 20 years had been fairly steady and even though ratings back then weren't as good as the early 90s, ratings in the 90s weren't as good as in the 80s, even ratings in the 80s weren't as good as in the 70s- nobody back then seemed to worry about the state of the genre, the ratings decline was considered an accepted reality and soaps were still considered a viable medium. Viable enough for new soaps like Port Charles, Sunset Beach and finally Passions to have all been created in the past decade. Since 2000, however, the decline in ratings and interest appears to be much sharper and hence we all started worrying about the future of soaps.

Hence this vicious cycle:

- falling quality leads to falling ratings

- falling ratings leads to budget cuts

- budget cuts result in falling quality

- falling quality leads to falling ratings (again)

- and so on

I'm actually surprised, as a longtime B&B viewer, that B&B's ratings haven't taken a big dive yet considering the truly PITIFUL state Bell is running the show into. Character assassinations galore, boring and repetitive storylines, the list of complaints could go on and the only saving grace will be any stellar performances the likes of Susan Flannery can put on.

OK, I'll rant here if I can. People like to cite the OJ Simpson trial, having more women in the workforce, etc as prime factors in soap ratings' decline. They may or may not be factors, but IMHO they are NOT the prime reason for soaps' sharply falling viewership.

No no.

The reason soaps have fallen so much since 2000 is because the quality of most of the soaps on air now has deteriorated alarmingly. Until 2000 or so, the ratings decline over 20 years had been fairly steady and even though ratings back then weren't as good as the early 90s, ratings in the 90s weren't as good as in the 80s, even ratings in the 80s weren't as good as in the 70s- nobody back then seemed to worry about the state of the genre, the ratings decline was considered an accepted reality and soaps were still considered a viable medium. Viable enough for new soaps like Port Charles, Sunset Beach and finally Passions to have all been created in the past decade. Since 2000, however, the decline in ratings and interest appears to be much sharper and hence we all started worrying about the future of soaps.

Hence this vicious cycle:

- falling quality leads to falling ratings

- falling ratings leads to budget cuts

- budget cuts result in falling quality

- falling quality leads to falling ratings (again)

- and so on

I agree with you so much. The quality has hurt the ratings big time, and it is something that has hit every show. Even last year Y&R's quality was down due to Jack Scott.

I think another thing and I briefly touched on it in another post somewhere but I think soaps have lost their credibility too. It used to be that soaps were looked down upon by some, but they always had storylines that got attention because they taught something or were socially relevant like Monica's breast cancer storyline (GH), Cindy's AIDS story (AMC), Stone's death (GH), the AIDS ball (ATWT), etc.

But soaps have just become known now for the sci-fi stuff like Marlena's possession on Days, walking fetus stories like Chelsea on Days and Josh on AMC, constant returns from the dead like Stefano on Days and James Stenbeck on ATWT, or the fact that no one ever dies on a soap at all.

Not only have they lost their quality but they have lost all their credibility, and now more than ever they are looked upon as "fluff" or empty viewing. And more and more it seems many times that esp. with the parade of hunks that so many of them have they are shooting for a teen or younger market who are more fickle in their viewing, and what I mean by that they jump from one show to another more often. And we see how that works as it worked for ABC for quite some time because they were able to do these stunt stories and pull in these viewers, but then they didn't offer anything to keep them watching anymore. Days did that with the SSK story - they would tune in for the deaths and then the ratings would go back down. Long term quality storytelling is just gone, and along with the quality has been the credibility too.

Both have led to the erosion.