Everything posted by SFK
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Racism and racial representation on soaps
I remember a fan in the AOL OLTL forum defending Kassie's casting saying that the Badderly s/l was over and Blair didn't need to speak Japanese anymore so her race didn't matter. 🤷🏽♂️ I didn't see these episodes but I've read that the show even went to the trouble of reshooting Addie's flashbacks of her sexual assault with a white actor in place of the original Asian actor.
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Y&R to air classic episodes
I recall a lengthy debate re: "Mamie" here at SON some years ago. The search box may turn it up.
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
No, I think the character's DEATH had something to do with it. 😜 Bridges and Page were stunt cast to draw viewers to the pilot movie where they'd hopefully take enough interest in the rest of the action to tune in on Monday. The movie is clearly scripted to relieve the two stars of their duties by having them be the murderer and the murdered. Cranston talks about this in his book, how promos flashed shots of the various cast members teasing who would be the victim and who would be the culprit and it was evident that it would be the two movie stars. I have a foggy memory of a Bridges quote Seli Groves uses in her Ultimate Soap Opera Guide. I think he was asked how he liked working on the soap/would he do it again, and Bridges says something to the effect that he enjoyed the experience enough, but they killed his character so it was a moot point. Groves follows this with a quip about how we daytime fans know that soap death is seldom permanent. I'm a huge fan of Geraldine Page, I think she's the best thing about the whole two hours. She would have been an extraordinary addition to any soap, if only for a three-month arc. Imagine what Lemay would have written for her.
- The Joan Collins Fan Club
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Any Capitol Fans Here?
This link was to the Capitol Megasite, ran by a lovely Italian gentleman named Claudio, but unfortunately the site is no longer online. Too bad because there were many pictures, articles, and of course things like the bibles, that I haven't seen anywhere else. What I remember most about the original bible was that the Cleggs vs. the McCandlesses wasn't nearly as central. Even more interesting was the strong emphasis on ingenue, Merle, a beautiful biracial coed. From what I remember, it was implied that she could almost pass but was always aware of the difference between herself and her white housemates. I think it was also implied that there was mystery surrounding her parentage. Regrettably, all of this was dropped. (On second thought, perhaps it was for the best.)
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Y&R to air classic episodes
What makes the red satin and sax opening so special to this day is that it completely broke tradition, and every other version of Y&R's titles has been a modernized take on the original with none of its timeless elegance and beauty. Sure, we got some very memorable campy shots of cast members preening over the years, but nothing can touch Sandy Dvore's charcoal sketches that captured the depth and the essence of actors and their characters in the way a great artist can do. Y&R could have stuck to the original arrangement of Nadia's Theme (with that gorgeous sonorous cello) and charcoals forever. Imagine how special it would have been to witness forty-some years of drawings of Katherine, Victor, Nikki, et al, a visual history. But switching out flat white for billowing crimson, ditching strings, adding the actors' names (Bill Bell's response to the squish credits), the 1999 opening titles struck out on their own and I highly doubt the show will ever again think outside the box.
- One Life to Live Tribute Thread
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Any Capitol Fans Here?
Yes, but dubbed in Italian. All of the show's first few years are on YouTube in Italian. I don't think I've seen the pilot movie in English since WoST. And in nearby Potomac. I was too little to remember them shooting in my area, but I've read old articles in the Post about how freezing it was and poor Bill Beyers was sick as a dog.
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
That was a hair audition if I ever did see one. 😆 And all that talk of "bazooms"!?
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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Look into the past - 1975
I don't think I realized just how brief Victor and Dorian's union was in fact. She moved quickly. I haven't read my AMC 25th anniversary book in years, not sure that I knew about the story with Ann and the suspected child abuse. Sounds interesting.
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ALL: Soap Stars - Where are they now?
Patricia Mauceri is in tonight's episode of Bull (CBS).
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Y&R to air classic episodes
I appreciate the Dynasty-like specificity, i.e., "We're gonna show you exactly who you're gonna see this episode."
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Y&R to air classic episodes
What!? I wasn't watching at this time and assumed her true identify had yet to be revealed. Egregious.
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Y&R to air classic episodes
I've got the CC on and Olivia is identified as Amy. What's the backstory on the name change?
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What Are You Watching/Binging/Streaming Now?
And yet again, you prove that you're one of my people. I've been meaning to start a TLC/Discovery thread for a while now but figured there was little interest. Y'all are hanging out in here! In addition, I'm obsessed with the 90 Day Fiancé franchise and Naked and Afraid, and a new season of Smothered will be starting soon. I recently binged on Tiger King, and I'm afraid I've overbinged and exhausted my favorite podcast, Crime Junkies, which all of you should be listening to! SImilarly, I'm a huge Dateline fan to the point of annoyance when I see that several episodes will be airing back to back because I know I can't resist.
- All My Children Tribute Thread
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Another World Discussion Thread
Totally. 90 minutes with no intermission is a popular runtime for plays, for both audiences and actors, and that's after at least a month of rehearsal. 90 minutes 5x/week sounds absolutely draining for the professionals, and tedious for the audience... like glorified background noise while one carries on household duties.
- Another World Discussion Thread
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
Erica did get a couple of tongue in cheek mentions when Sydney's old flame, Jackson Montgomery made crossover appearances (Sydney snarkily referring to Erica as, "Whatshername"). But to your point, my gut reaction was no way. However, the more I consider it, I think it could have worked for a matter of months, like Rosemary Prinz's favor to Agnes Nixon back in 1970. I immediately thought of the rumored Alexis spinoff from Dynasty and how that would have crippled the parent show. I don't think Our Private World did much damage, while we certainly wouldn't want anything resembling Texas Iris for Erica in The City. But I like the idea of Erica back in New York mixing with Olga and Tess in the modeling industry, dining at Nexus... And the reboot proved what we always knew, that Erica is one of many inimitable PV personalities and the story holds up just fine with her in absentia. I love Morgan Fairchild and I loved Sydney Chase, so no regrets, but perhaps Susan Lucci would've been the better way to go. One never knows, I mean look at the dud that was the Rae Cummings parade. Star power can only get you so far with tepid storytelling.
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The Hits Keep Coming for the Retail Sector
I work about a block away from Neiman's here in the D.C. area. Their Christmas book is legendary, I've got 2019's still on my coffee table. Fantasy gifts include: an Aston Martin designed by Daniel Craig (in blue to match his eyes, natch) for the cheeky price of $700,007; custom Christian Louboutins for $125,000; an $89,000 sable coat; a custom dog house co-designed by Denise Richards at the starting price of $70,000; a makeup masterclass and Istagram video with an IG personality for $400,000... the list goes on. Thanks to the Lifetime movie, more people have been introduced to the Clark Sisters. When Karen was coming out of her coma following terrible complications post-gastric bypass, Dorinda asked Karen if she wanted to go to Neiman Marcus and Karen started rapidly blinking her eyes. 😆 Our answer to Marshall Fields was Hecht's, which all became Macy's. I know MF was acquired by Macy's as well, and I appreciated that MF was able to keep its name. We had a luxury mall that was anchored by Bloomingdales, I. Magnin, and Lord & Taylor. The entire mall has been razed for redevelopment (open air shopping and dining plazas are back in vogue) save for L&T which was promised a mall in their lease. They won a multi-million dollar settlement and the store stands alone surrounded by a huge parking lot and nothingness where a mall once stood. Breaks my '80s nostalgic heart.
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
Indeed, I'm also a Marylander and I met one of Laura (then) Sisk's childhood friends at a Britney Spears/P. Diddy concert at the Verizon Center, of all places. This was back when one could smoke indoors at the bar. We were shooting the [!@#$%^&*] about television and this lady who looks like Kelly Coffield in glasses shares that she grew up with Laura... small world. I believe Laura and her husband/former husband (I don't know, I don't keep up) met in College Park. I'm from Silver Spring where Evangeline's family was from on One Life to Live. * * * * * Apparently, Roberta Flack was making the NY soap rounds at this time. This must have been after Hold on to Love on Guiding Light so I guess there was no non-compete clause.
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The Doctors Discussion Thread
I didn't realize that Robert La Tourneaux had played Mike. I must have seen some of his episodes a few years ago. Was he the Mike right before Assante?
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
I just assumed they were making room for Morgan Fairchild. And while Steffi was pregnant, I don't think the show was at all interested in having a thirtysomething mother of young children living in 212 Greene St. with the rest of the characters. We got Angie and Jacob fostering Kayla for a time, but that's a different dynamic. The City was all about "chosen family" with the majority of characters starting fresh/striking out on their own in the city with no blood ties on the canvas. Of course the show was criticised for this and we've yet to see it on another daytime soap. Tess was set up as Sydney's foil, and Tess' modeling agency in Sydney's building provided a convenient backdrop for glamor and conflict... Tess, a thorn, literally under Syddy's feet. An hour-long show like AW is a perfect example of handling a diva-heavy cast (Rachel, Felicia, Donna, and Iris all driving story at once), not sure there was room for Loving's leading lady Lisa (alliteration noted) who'd certainly be expected to take on a lesser role to The City's explicit star, Morgan.
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
If they didn't read soap mags, or whizzed past promos during commercial breaks, I'm guessing many non-Loving AMC fans had no clue. They made no mention of Jeremy's death on AMC iirc, but on Loving, they did give Gwyn the throwaway line that Erica Kane had called offering her condolences. (When Deborah Brewster got a shot at later in life modeling, she made the meta comment about becoming a model, "... just like Erica Kane on All My Children!" But I digress...)