Everything posted by Paul Raven
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Y&R July 2021 Discussion Thread
Wouldn't TPTB have some inkling that a young actress who has already left once might do so again and have Plan B ready to go? Having Summer scurry off to Italy w/o revealing what threats Tara had made didn't ring true. Had Tara been a little more ambiguous about not letting Kyle have access it would have played better. Summer used to be out for herself so her deciding that she didn't sign up for this drama and wasn't ready to play stepmommy as well as having a great job waiting for her should have been enough to write her off. How many more times is Imani going to slither up to Nate with Elena giving her the side eye before we move to the next beat? BTW Sean Dominic is the hottest guy on the show and needs more airtime.!!
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Ned Le Fevre Masquerade Phil Wendall Woman in White John Adams
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Virginia Payne Story of Mary Marlin Kitty Keene Arnold Grimm's Daughter Sarah Westland Road of Life Mrs Mulhern
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Gil Gerald Pilot 'International Airport' David Montomery 1985 Patricia Crowley Pilot 'International Airport' Beverly Gerber 1985 George Kennedy Pilot 'International Airport' Rudy Van Lueven 1985 Susan Oliver Pilot 'International Airport'Mary Van Leuven 1985 Robert Vaughan Pilot 'International Airport' Captain Powell 1985
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Y&R July 2021 Discussion Thread
Well, as an avowed Phyllis hater, I have to say I am enjoying Phyllis as busybody in recent eps. Her sweety/bitch persona around Tara is amusing to me. Once again we have declared statements of wealth with Victor saying having a private jet means they can leave for Italy whenever they like. But there is Nikki with a pile of luggage in the only room we ever see.Surely staff would have whisked it from the bedroom to the limo. Victoria's house has been reduced to a few walls and some furniture. Couldn't they do the same for some other characters without homes? Oh, and a shout out to Lily for her advice to Moses along the lines of 'you have to give girls surprise presents-they love it' Really, that sexist nonsense has to go.
- GH: Classic Thread
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Primetime Soaps
Jan 1985 Rich get better ratings, says creator of "Dallas'' By BOB WISEHART McClatchy News Service Just what you've all been waiting for, the differences between "Dallas," "Dynasty," "Knots Landing" and "Falcon Crest". If the "Dallas" characters went to Paris they'd be bumpkins; If the folks on "Knots Landing" characters went to Paris, they'd be tourists; If the well-heeled denizens of "Dynasty" went to Paris ... well, actually, they probably go to Paris a lot and have apartments there. As for "Falcon Crest," its characters TRIED to go to Europe, but the jet crashed just in time for the season-ending cliffhanger. If this seems like a ridiculous thing to think about, meet the source of those observations, David Jacobs, who thinks about little else. Jacobs is a study in contrasts. By appearance he is squat, pudgy and so benign he could pass as the owner of the corner drugstore in the town where Andy Hardy grew up. But if we could peer into his fevered mind, the sight would be horrible indeed. Jacobs, the author of 10 non-fiction books about the arts, many for young readers, is the man we can hold responsible for the prime-time soap opera, a phenomenon that clogs the airwaves the way gunk stops the plumbing. And there is no plunger in sight. Jacobs created "Dallas," the show that launched this trend, along with its spinoff, "Knots Landing." He also created "Secrets of Midland Heights" a few years back, a notable bomb hardly anyone remembers. His current project is "Berrenger's," a bubbly extravanganza now playing on NBC and based in an upscale big-city department store. Interviewed recently in Los Angeles, Jacobs is a jolly little fellow, quick to smile and fast with a quip. The large sums of money that have come his way no doubt make life vastly amusing. Jacobs admits that he's frankly sick of the whole genre. "I've been trying to get out of the serial business for two years' now," he says, but the networks keep making offers he can't refuse. Besides "Berrenger's," and "Knots" Jacobs has little daily contact with "Dallas" he's working on a "Dallas" prequel, a movie about the early wildcatting days of Jock Ewing and Digger Barnes. He says no one in the series would appear in the movie. To the untrained eye, the formula for a successful prime-time soap seems simple; just make everybody wealthy. The rich may be rotten and the poor may be pure, but the rich get better ratings. If that's true, why have such shows been impossible to launch successfully in recent years? This season brought two duds, "Paper Dolls," an upscale look at the modeling business; and "Glitter," built around a People-esque magazine. The last success was "Falcon Crest" four years ago. The problem with "Paper Dolls" and "Glitter," says Jacobs, is that they spent more on lip gloss than on scripts. "Beautiful," he says, "but too much emphasis on what they looked like." Besides, it isn't true that rich characters in an opulent setting guarantee success. "Knots Landing" has its roots in the middle class, although Jacobs cracks "they're getting richer all the time." Jacobs is convinced that the real problem has to do with expectations by the networks and the audience, which have grown so heated it resembles an arms race. "Dallas" was a rush job, which meant there wasn't much time for detail and gloss. Jacobs finished the first draft of the first script Dec. 10, 1978. Shooting of the first episode began Feb. 1, 1979. As such things are measured, that's faster than the speed of light. "At first, 'Dallas' had seven characters and a couple of little stories," he says. "Now everybody wants everything in place right from the first." "Dynasty" had a sparse beginning, too, and did not at all resemble today's show. Does anybody remember that Dale Robertson played as important a role as John Forsythe (plutocrat Blake Carrington)? By contrast, "Berrenger's" was stuffed with a dozen plots and subplots in its first 90-minute episode, which even Jacobs admits is "probably excessive." The poor viewer, who, after all, had only just met these people, needed a scorecard to keep everybody straight. "If I had my druthers I'd go with two people or four people, and develop from there," Jacobs says. "But I'm not sure the audience would buy it. You're expected to have a complicated mosaic right away." But television always is risky business at best. As he says, "You try for something different, but what everybody wants is what they're used to, which we have a lot of already. I mean, I'm sure there's not room for another 'Dynasty' or 'Dallas.' For all I know, there's not room for 'Berrenger's' either."
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Bryna Raeburn Front Page Farrell 1950
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
MacDonald Carey Molly of the Movies Dan Harding's Wife Betty and Bob
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Eileen Palmer Girl Alone Dorothea Taylor Stepmother Gen Porter Scattergood Baines Leslie Curtis Lone Journey Jeanette Nolan Pretty Kitty Kelly Helen Morris/Gypsy Afra Martha Webster Mrs Jamison Tony Randall Lorenzo Jones 1948 Front Page Farrell 1949
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
From Slick Jones in the SoapHoppers thread ARIANA MUENKER THE GUIDING LIGHT Christie Rogers 1971 AS THE WORLD TURNS Carol Ann Stewart (AKA Annie Stewart) 1972-73 THE DOCTORS (Temporary) Greta Van Allen Powers 1973 ANOTHER WORLD Marianne Randolph 1975-77 AS THE WORLD TURNS Melinda Gray Spencer 1977-80 RYAN'S HOPE Amanda Kirkland 1983 GUIDING LIGHT Christine ____Valere 1986-87 DAYS OF OUR LIVES Kimberly Brady Donovan Collier 1992-93
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Rupert Labelle Orphans of Divorce Kitty Keene Backstage Wife 1946 Arnold Grimm's Daughter Judy and Jane Stepmother Road of Life Don Winslow of the Navy Admiral Colby
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DAYS: July 2021 Discussion Thread
??? Is she incapable of supporting herself? Freddie was all about retiring at 30. I think he may be slightly deluded ,very much of that cohort who think their mere existence is worthy of support (including financial) from others and think they are way more interesting than they are.
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DAYS: July 2021 Discussion Thread
A 95 yr old man playing racquetball?? I'm surprised Julie wasn't going to the morgue!!
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Eleanor Audley By Kathleen Norris 'Mystery House' Flora Mocklee 1940
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Women In The Director's Chair
It might be interesting to expand this thread away from just women directors in the 80's and look at women with positions of power in the earlier days. Doris Quinlan is one name that comes to mind. She was working at Young Dr Malone in the early 60's before exec producing OLTL for many years.
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Billie Lou Watt Edge of Night Eileen Quinn 1965
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Look into the past - 1975
Yes a big thanks to all posters who keep the classic soap years alive by posting this great stuff! Re Y&R Seems Jill was back burner at this time. Kay was busy with Joann and at this point seemed committed to that story, probably feeling Kay/Jill had needed a rest. I wonder if Jill had any connection to that plot? Did she keep in touch with Brock? He could have mentioned Joann and Jill could have gone to her to warn her. Or did Bell want to keep things separate? He did have the Derek/Jill story in mind.I know he started it previously and dropped it. Was Jill working for Derek at this point and he was off camera? Or was he reintroduced when Joe LaDue came on? Guess the coming synopses will answer that...
- GH: Classic Thread
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DAYS: July 2021 Discussion Thread
Thinking back to the Salem Strangler story...had it taken place recently,Jake would have been forgiven by everyone because he really wasn't responsible.You see he had a brain tumor and and felt neglected as a child. Chris would feel responsible and Marlena would make a point of forgiving him for murdering her sister. Jessica would feel torn - although Joshua is great, he really isn't seeing the pain Jake is experiencing. Alice advises her granddaughter to be there for Jake. After his operation for the tumor he doesn't remember being a killer so it's decided he can't be tried for those crimes he committed...
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Y&R July 2021 Discussion Thread
They really need to put an advisory fashion warning before the show. First it was Nikki busting out of the red dress, then Phyllis with the lizard frill and finally Lauren in another one of her hooker ensembles -a sparkly skirt with a clashing top and jacket.I'm going to check the credits and name the person responsible. Looks like Victoria's 'house' is back...
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HOW TO SURVIVE A MARRIAGE
I wonder if the attitudes and dialogue were a bit too confronting for some of the women viewers in 1974? Housewives in traditional marriages may not have liked their view of the world challenged...
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Peyton Place
April 1966 Too Slow for a Fast Town? Spring has come to Peyton Place. Rodney has been exonerated and Betty Anderson is getting married. The familiar folks in the small New England town are entering a new phase of their television life which, many an eyebrow raising problem with which they can wrestle. So TV WEEK visited Paul Monash ^"^ to learn firsthand what condition Peyton Place was in. He's the program's Executive Producer, the man who has shepherded-but not chaperoned-the affairs of Peyton Place since their conception in the minds of 20th Century Fox executives two years ago. The most frequent complaint we've heard about Peyton Place this season was that the series moved too slowly, so we asked Monash how he felt about the pace. "This is a hard thing for us to judge," he said. 'Maybe in plotting three episodes a week we lost sight of this. But on the other hand the characters and situations were so rich we wanted to explore hem. True, in the past few months we have had a single focus--Rodney's trial." Since many readers have commented unfavorably on those three-as opposed to two-episodes,we raised the question with him. "People who like Peyton Place want the three episodes, we think. But everything considered, 'II be just as happy to go back to two a week. This fall, of course, it'll be in color and that should help the series." Last spring TV WEEK speculated that, by running through the summer, Peyton Place would hop to the top of the ratings by attracting a new audience that had only re-runs as an alternative. We were right. But we also predicted that the program would hold that new audience and glide merrily along with the top-rated programs for the fall and winter. Here we were wrong. "The hardest part of this program is to get a new audience involved in the series. Last summer we tried, but we did something that didn't work, namely adding the Schusters. We learned that you don't bring new people into Peyton Place. Somehow they don't fit. We now know that the characters have to live in Peyton Place or at least return after an absence," Monash explained. "And in the fall we were hurt by very clever counter-programing. We'd go up and down according to the movies opposite us two nights a week. It's hard to leave a movie for a half hour." Although Peyton Place didn't stay in the top ten as we had predicted, it did ride high among the top forty most of the season. So, having weathered the critical second season in robust health, it's safe to guess that Peyton Place will be with us for many seasons to come. "But with the new phase that's starting, three new characters are coming in," Monash continued. "Two have been in Peyton Place all along (Stephen Oliver and Lana Wood), and one is returning after a 17-year absence (Susan Oliver). "We'll introduce some new elements that will really involve the viewers and there won't be a single focus as before. All the principals will be more or less equally involved in this new phase." A writing corps of seven people does the scripts. Mass conferences are held frequently to discuss the main story lines, the characters and the scenes that can be played. A Story Board of three people then outlines the scenes and two or three writers do the script for each episode. Such writing by committee is not essentially different from most television programs, except that the committee is larger. We were going to tell you about some of the more intimate things that'll be happening in Peyton Place in the coming weeks, but unfortunately we've run out of space. We're sure sorry about that. But we can say this. If you're a Peyton Place fan, "Don't touch that dial!" Spring has come to Peyton Place and everything is warming up.
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Wynne Miller As The World Turns pre 1965