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Yep! That's the tea here, and it's tea I believe. Saw PK in early January outside Selfridges department store with one of his long-time buddies. Somebody in the property business (PK made and lost all his money in real estate) spilled to me that Dorit was the one who wanted to separate, and then mentioned that PK has a GF now and they are living in his London home. Camille may not know about Dorit and PK per se, but best believe she knows where KYLE and Rinna have buried all the bodies! Lol Kyle and Rinna will probably do ok on the makeup front as they had practice as young actresses doing their own for TV or film. Teddi, on the other hand.... uh oh. 😄

@Chris B Thanks for the explanation. I notice that as a season progresses, the Talking Heads change looks, and it makes sense that they film reactions later, as the show is airing. Re: filming the THs, I wonder if this might still be possible to do. 1 or 2 masked-and-gloved crew members set up a few fixed cameras and lighting in someone's living room. They retreat out of there. The HW could then enter, sit down and respond to producer questions and prompts remotely. The whole thing would be filmed. The only thing missing would be minions with Starbucks on hand and glam squads. Well, Erika probably lives with Mikey now, but everyone else would have to apply their own makeup! Sorry to hear that about Camille. She was spilling the tea on Twitter last season (especially about Kyle's power behind the scenes) and I guess we can't have that on BH! Interesting to me was seeing PK in the trailer, because Dorit and PK have quietly separated and he appears to be living in London since New Year with a new GF. I guess this is something else we're not supposed to talk about. Brandi has perhaps already filmed a TH with (I imagine) an I-Dream-of-Genie hairpiece and some new lips. Did someone already mention on here that now that Andy is recovered, the ATL reunion may actually go ahead on a remote basis? I think it could work! Remember when Kim called in via telephone 'from the Bahamas' to Nene on WWHL? "Close your legs to married men, trashbox."

I did not know that Naomi and LVP were friends from way back. All the more reason Bravo should have jumped on Naomi's interest and brought her on. (Perhaps Production was more invested in isolating LVP at the time?). I wish I knew BH's recruitment person because I would definitely be whispering sweet nothings in their ear about Nicollette Sheridan, Kathy Hilton and Naomi Campbell. (My hunch is that Nicollette and Kathy were probably asked last year but turned down that poisoned chalice). But hey, by all means, let's keep Teddi and Dorit.

Is that first one Dorit?? She's had SO MUCH facial work done. That leather cap looks ridiculous. I'm actually shocked at how low-rent this whole look is. Usually Do-wrong loves to flash expensive brands at us peons. The second look is the usual WTF for her. Speaking of low-rent: Kyle. I am even more shocked by this because Kyle usually looks polished in her talking heads. The first look is messy and busy. The second is Shania Twain's wannabe cousin. The work Kyle has had done has taken away her freshness. Erika's first look is the same as all her talking heads from years past, no? Cruella Deville meets Queen of the Night. The second look is much better. More Chicago. Garcelle looks very sleek. Yellow is her colour for sure, and I love her Diana Ross circa 1975 hair in the second TH. Rinna is turning into an Erika clone with the wigs and costumes. She is always copying somebody else on the show. Denise: Like a still from Wild Things. Très 90s. Sutton. Fine, I guess. I'm not bowled over by those Jeana Keough tops. Teddi. Insipid. Tryhard. I guess Camille didn't get a talking head? And neither did Brandi?? Lmao.

I just want to see Naomi ground some of these BH triflings into dust TBH. Teddi, Dorit, I'm looking at you. Rinna, Erika and Kyle can address some of those darker rumours, but then better be prepared to duck, because Ms. Campbell, as we know, does not run away from confrontation or a fight.

New producers? Is Sirens out as a production company? They are local to NJ, a mostly all-female team, and one of their EPs Lucilla Agostino is close with the women since S1. That's how we get to see so much personal stuff. Jennifer is here to stay though. She polarises viewers but most do enjoy her. She and Teresa are also close so I think Tre is likely to go to bat for her. Also Andy may not be enamored of Jennifer but he does seem to like her husband Bill and what he brings to the show. Re: BH, I'm not surprised Camille got screwed over. Production over there seems to do Kyle's bidding. She's the 'new queen,' haven't you heard?? 😄 Re: Garcelle, I am really excited to see her, and especially to see her dynamic with Erika for some reason. Erika kind of fancies herself the Tell It Like It Is person on BH, so I wonder how she will act when face to face with someone like Garcelle who *really* doesn't seem afraid to tell it like it is. Having seen Naomi Campbell in her designer hazmat suits and pandemic gear, I think RHOBH also missed a trick by not including this diva on that show. She would bring some drama! A few years ago she appeared on WWHL and said she watched all the RH shows. She indicated she wouldn't mind becoming a HW and since she has a house in LA... Andy cut her off and whined about how she'd be great on Atlanta. I was stunned at his lack of imagination. I think personality wise Naomi would be a BH fit! Anyhoo that is neither here nor there as she is not on any RH show, lol.

"I will still drag you, pregnant and all!" Eva clocked in for a paycheck and that was about it. Tanya was more relevant than her this season. Nene should not be uttering the phrase "waste of money" however -- she did not appear on a handful of episodes this season and still cost Bravo money.

I'm not sleeping on her. I thought she acquitted herself well in the trailer.

Oh but they will. Hypocrisy, thy name is the Green Eyed Bandits. Karen, call them out on that sh*t!

OMGGGGGG! Four years of drama coming home to roost on Potomac! Gizelle back with her ex. Karen's marriage faltering. Robyn's ex-marriage faltering! (Time to get those tattoo 'rings' removed, boo boo!) Michael Darby being thirsty AF as usual! Never has a man wanted to be an actual HW more! This is looking so epic, I can't even process it! And Wendy actually looks like she might be a good addition! Also I know we haven't seen The Fight yet but... I'm feeling a bit Team Monique right now. Gizelle may get her wish to edge her off the show, and I would hate that.

That NY trailer is a sight for sore eyes! Luann, Dorinda, Ramona, Sonja -- heck Tinsley and Leah too, they all look fantastic! I am *so* ready for some rapid fire wit and Manhattan lifestyle.

Thanks for this! I've been aware of Trinny since her 90s show What Not to Wear, she is a powerhouse. And of course I love *this* Dorinda -- relaxed, talkative, all-embracing. You can tell these two have been friends forever. Dorinda's bright, luminous, outward-looking new apartment looks fab -- great views, and so much better than her previous gloomy one. (Plus her dressing room looks like it belongs in a fancy Notting Hill townhouse). Dorinda is up in the Berkshires at the moment with Hannah. More space, fresh air, and near family. She's posted some Doreobics on her Instagram to do at home. ATL tonight! I need to catch up on last week's episodes, NJ too.

I wondered whether some celebs out there might use the coronavirus to raise their profile. However, with Andy, logistically, I'm not sure he'd be able to lie about this and get away with it. He has staff around him, a daily TV show, daily radio show -- his child, his friends, his guests and lots of people working for him may have to be tested now that he is positive for the virus.

@NothinButAttitude Whenever I think of RHONY cast trips, "Not Really" is the moment that springs to my mind first. I don't know why, but I just LOVE the way Luann growls that from the side of her mouth. I find myself falling into unconsciously saying it the same way IRL. Totally agree about Luann being a MVP on many a cast trip. Luann loves a tropical beach vacation for sure. She has a zest for life and enthusiasm that I find very watchable on these trips. Now, I like Heather and the S5-6 newbie crew, but this was not a good look on them. First of all, they insisted on blaming the wrong person for the dude in the bedroom (it was Ramona). Even after they found out it was Ramona, they continued after Luann with their judgy stank faces and pearl-clutching. This convo tho, lol. Sonja makes me laugh so hard: Kristen: There was a little bit of making out on the deck. Luann: Absolutely. Copping to it totally. Kristen: And he said your man was married. Luann: ....Ah. well... Carole: 🤪 Heather: Luann: You know--- Sonja: Sh*t happens. 😄

So this is random, but I am watching a few episodes of S7 RHONY this morning (Rich Bethenny's first season back). They went to Turks & Caicos for their cast trip (Countess: "Don't be all, like, uncool"). NYC has truly standout trips. Which are your faves? S3 Scary Island (the OG of them all) S4 Mo-ROC-Co S5 St Barts S6 Montana S7 Turks and Caicos S8 Miami S9 Mexico S10 Cartagena S11 Miami again Gotta say, I have a real love for the St Barts episodes. The pirate. Aviva going ballistic. You're both white trash, quite frankly!

He hasn't filmed WWHL in over a week, and he has done his radio show from home. He self-isolated pretty early on, but I imagine he has staff (nanny, housekeeper, personal assistant), and I guess he will be counting back over the incubation period and contacting all those he came into contact with. That could be how he got it. Hope it's just a mild case for everyone concerned and that baby Ben in particular is doing fine.

Oh no! I hope he and the baby are ok and taking all the precautions. The BH trailer. Lord. Erika, Kyle, Teddi, Dorit. Are they bringing anything to the table? Kyle has a nice house, I guess.

And BH. Also Bravo started this new show Family Karma -- I'm thinking of giving it a go. LOL can you just imagine reunion with chairs 6 feet apart? And Nene one of the HWs going over to another HW Kenya and threatening her with the coronavirus? Is Andy going to jump in there to pull them apart? Haven't watched ATL episode yet, but that sneak peek of Nene and Kenya making bitch-faces at each other looks good. This is starting to feel like 'old' ATL, mainly because this rivalry has been brewing for years and has never really come out in the open until now. (The rivalry is also Nene and Kenya's express ticket to next season -- whenever that gets filmed).

That was beautiful.

So now that he thinks he might have it, he declares a national emergency. Last week at one of his bigly incubator rallies, he called Covid-19 a hoax! Thank you for the advice. I will see what I can do.

Just want to say Thank you Errol and SON for operating as per normal. This week my anxiety about this pandemic has mushroomed. I am grateful to know that if/when I have to be confined at home during a lockdown or work-from-home mandate, I would be able to check on here for some 'familiar faces' and soaps talk. Funny how I thought this thread would make me panic even more, but I'm reading about Cruz having to self-isolate AGAIN (not to mention BolsoAmazonBurning and the orange one partying it up at Mar-a-lago on the nation's dime, only to find out that at least one of them has this thing) and suddenly I feel strangely calm.

This week has been incredibly busy and anxiety-inducing. I have not been able to come to the board until now, and what a relief it is to talk about RH and soaps and stuff and give the brain a rest from worst-case scenarios and worry. 😌 @DynamiteKiddo @chrisml Regarding Yolanda: I think she epitomises the description "iron fist in a velvet glove." She is graceful and elegant, and channels European wealth and glamour. IA that she did look down on LVP and Ken as garish, tacky and below her. The biggest irony of all was that she married her way UP into that 'garish' world -- Mohamed Hadid. And I think it is pretty clear the way she talked on BH that she was cheated on constantly. It must have been humiliating and consequently she probably looks back on that as a dark time for her, one she does not remember fondly. The rumor is that Mo likes high-class escort girls, which his last GF Shiva may have been. And which Joanna Krupa was rumored to have been. And which -- I'm making a speculative leap here -- Yolanda may also have been, after her modelling career petered out. I also think the way she launched her daughters' modelling careers was genius. Rinna can only look on in envy! At the beginning, I believed Yolanda was limiting her daughters' potential by encouraging them into modelling -- an industry which spits out young girls after using them. I also thought Gigi and Bella were smart enough to go the college route. However, now she has set them up for life financially so... I remember Yo on WWHL during S4 (Carlton season), and Andy referred to Brandi as her BFF and Yolanda went "I wouldn't say close friend, she's an acquaintance" and the audience went OOOOOOOO. She definitely pulled a "I don't know ha." That was ruthless, and I'm surprised Brandi never, ever lashed out at Yolanda in revenge. Because she sure as hell went after LVP after she felt dropped. Erika & Yolanda. Clearly they had never met before the show put them together. It was an alliance, evident at reunion when Yolanda ran out halfway through and Erika was prompted (as her 'friend') to follow. She coldly but quietly told Yolanda in her dressing room to pull it together. The two shared an understanding and certain commonalities. They were both married to prestigious wealth, both icy blondes with their eyes on a bigger prize than the show itself. Their relationship of convenience seemed a good one, and a relatively warm one (as warm as it can be between two ice queens!). And the hate for LVP with the both of them is legit. @Antoyne @chrisml I loved Kathryn! Her life story was really interesting and she seems genuinely good people on social media. NJ: Seeing the castmates and their husbands talk honestly about their lives (and sex lives), it feels largely authentic, and you can tell that most of these people hang out for real during the off season. It makes this reunion an easy, breezy pleasure to watch. I FFed the stuff at the end when it was just Jennifer yelling at the right couch because that is draining. But it was fun seeing the husbands (Evan talked more than during the entire season). Jennifer's insistence on the sex she is having with her husband is OTT. Methinks she doth protest too much. Something about the way Jackie kept somewhat quiet, hanging out on the edge of her sofa (while Jennifer is practically in Dolores' lap) makes me wonder if she will be gone after this season. She seems a little over it all. The talk about Caroline Manzo makes me want her to come back. She is buds with Dolores, after all.

NJ: Jennifer was annoying with the interrupting, but it was also fun to see how fast she is on her feet. She was bringing out her inner Queens. Calling out a smug and complacent Melissa on her fake SLs was GOLD! Melissa, who assumes she is safer-than-safe, who kept looking to Jackie & Marge as 'her' backup -- no, honey, you have to think fast and come back at Jennifer all by yourself! Jennifer was also giving Marge quite the workout. Marge maybe got herself a somewhat worthy opponent. Also this part: Jennifer: You spend all your time complimenting yourself on your selfies! Melissa: Who told you that?! Jennifer: Oh, I'd rather not say. Cut to Teresa looking innocent. What I liked best was seeing friendships across the 'two groups'. Dolores and Jackie now having a friendship, and Jackie avoiding the racism card which perhaps other HWs would have milked for relevancy. Marge defending Dolores to Jennifer. Teresa respecting Jackie's struggle with her eating disorder. Maybe the audience wants more fighting and toxic anger, but I like that this establishes more authentic links between the women. It actually increases the stakes whenever the group is forced to pick a side. Haha yes, I will hate-watch Rinna/Vyle/Divorced Dorit/Erotika/the smug boring pregnant one until boredom sets in. (I can already picture Smug Boring One's first scene: her pregnant ass on a treadmill lecturing us. "Just cuz you're pregnant doesn't mean you can slack on your exercise routine!"). However, I'm fine with Camille, ok about Denise, WAY excited about Garcelle (I wonder if Vivica A. Fox was ever asked to join BH?) and ready to see what Sutton has to offer. Brandi -- um..... I am dreading her first scene which will undoubtedly be about LVP. I think her comments on Twitter have been excessively crude and bullying. However, I have been listening to her podcast recently and, weirdly, she's actually sort of ok on there? She also lets her guests talk. Re: OC -- I heard Tamra is back. As a full-time HW. Just when you think she's dead... she pops up and attacks you!

Dorinda's late husband Richard was an adviser to the Clinton's, if I recall correctly. Dorinda campaigned for Hillary in 2016. So maybe Dorinda called in a favour. Also Hillary has a 4-hour Netflix documentary to shill.

I have a weird soft spot for Yolanda -- despite her snobby high-handedness and cold single-mindedness. S4 when she jumped all over Ken practically accusing him of assault and then sniffed "My husband would never be seen with the likes of you!" really turned me off. But S5 won me back when she took everybody to Holland and bonded nostalgically with LVP on a deeper level (both were Voices of Reason that trip). Amid the snootiness, I liked the way she cut to the heart of things, talking about her family, about fakeness, men replacing their wives for a younger model (*cough*), women ready to screw anybody over for a Gucci handbag. Genuine moments that contributed to the franchise beyond beautiful houses and picture-perfect Instagram lives. Since she left the show, I realise that she has left a gaping hole. Yolanda added glamour, wealth and A-list power to the show (alongside LVP). BH has desperately tried to replicate that effortless glamour but no-one on BH comes close. Not even Erika Girardi. You can't replicate David Foster's stature in the music industry, or the Hadid sisters rise to legit supermodel superstardom. I found all that fascinating to watch. After S6 I was ready for Yo to leave because the Lyme disease stuff was depressing and toxic. The backlash ruined everybody and BH has never been the same since. However, in hindsight, I think she was dismissed too hastily, and if they ever brought her back, I would be ok with that. Seeing Kyle and Rinna cower in front of her laser ice-blue gaze (they were legit scared of her) would be worth it! Rinna, as you and @DynamiteKiddo point out, has become utterly ruthless. The way she targets the weakest link and picks them off (addicted Kim; sick Yolanda; nutty Eden who really wasn't that nutty after all, just used and thrown under the bus by Rinna). The way she takes one original element from a HW and tries to co-opt it for herself. For example, seeing her push those Dollar-Store Hadid daughters (the eldest child has had so much surgery and fillers, she now looks unrecognizeable). This is what I mean about the gaping hole Yolanda has left behind! Those poor kids are NOT supermodel material. Or seeing her adopt Erika Jayne's wigs and costumes. It's like she is trying to become somebody else. I feel like she is progressively losing her joy, vulnerability and humanity. This season will tell whether Rinna returns to the forefront of the BH stage like the STAH we know she is dying to be. And hopefully we get more Harry and Lois because those two humanize her. Maybe one day we will also see her comeuppance.