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On what planet is Jacob hotter than Andre? In my mind, Andre is the hotness of BTG. Not seeing any connection. I'm like "damn girl you thirsty".

I noticed that too and I also LOL. Andre/Ashley does not work for me. Andre/Dani is where its at.

@Chris B Ridge/Brooke beach wedding was September 1994 and that episode has been rebroadcast like three times.

Belief was Bill Bell last hurrah before he passed the reins to Bradley. There's a lull from end of Catalina crossover until Ridge/Brooke beach wedding.

@soapfan770 Bill Bell grandchildren from Google search. Bill Bell Jr. and Maria Arena Bell have a son Liam and a daughter Sabrina. I couldn't find the ages of Bill Jr. and Maria's children. Bradley Bell and Colleen Bell have four children: sons Bradley and Oliver and daughters Caroline and Charlotte. I couldn't find the ages of Bradley and Colleen's children. Lauralee Bell and Scott Martin have a son Christian (born 2001) and a daughter Samantha (born 2002).

Larry Hagman was the breakout star of Dallas and both he and JR became pop culture phenomenons, not just in this country but internationally. That gave him leverage in contract renegotiations. Larry was the reason CBS primetime rode high from 1980-1985 and I'm pretty sure it's documented that Larry had the highest salary of a CBS primetime star in that era. He might also have had the highest salary of a CBS primetime star during the final 6 seasons of Dallas.

Ted Shackelford, Joan Van Ark, Michele Lee were original cast members but I don't know how long their initial contracts were so there had to have been some salary renegotiation after the initial contracts were up. Donna Mills came on in season 2 so she would have been on a different contract cycle than the original cast and I'm pretty sure she also had a salary renegotiation after her initial contract was up. 1987 seems to be the year where the budget issues started across all three CBS primetime soaps and by Fall 1988 budget mode kicked in.

I wonder if any of Bill Bell's grandchildren inherited his writing talent. I believe they are all grown by now.

The early 1980s was peak ABC big three and that was reflected in the Daytime Emmy nominations. Lisa Brown got nominated twice for As the World Turns, 1987 and 1988 Supporting Actress. Krista Tesreau original recipe Mindy came across as a spoiled brat/daddy's little princess. Kimberley Simms took Mindy to a whole other level. Kimberley Simms Mindy initially had some remnants of spoiled brat/daddy's little princess but then Mindy grew up and matured.

Constance McCashin keeping it real by saying she was salary dumped. I wonder whom she was referring to when she said "our four salaries equaled one of the others".

Anita serves up matriarch/grande dame diva fierceness. Andre is the hotness. Silk Press Sheila is the breakout character.

Hahaha 🤣

Kat/Eva/Tomas is the sisters fighting over a guy story that's so gonna happen. I pointed out before that the prized virgin heroine is not a new thing.

JFP had the block voting game on lock. Supporting is basically a holding tank for those who aged out of the younger category but are not at superstar/long-tenured veteran level.

Vincent Irizarry was on Santa Barbara when JFP was there and his return to GL was the same week JFP took over as EP.

Derek and Ashley are the weak links of the main cast so I'm fine with their absence. I know I shouldn't think this, but I'm missing Andre and his fine self.

I wonder if JFP had a friend in mind for 1993 Mindy recast but the friend was either not available or not interested. I suspected a similar situation a year later for Alan recast, Friend of Jill either not available or not interested. We know of four Friends of Jill incidents (Vincent Irizarry, Justin Deas, Marcy Walker, Marj Dusay) and two new Friends of Jill (Mark Derwin, Sonia Satra).

Leslie and her wigs are characters unto themselves.

I didn't like Blade/Rick and I'm not liking Alan/Martin 30 years later.

I have yet to think of any of the males in the 30-55 range as fake ass Shemars.

In 1997 Kim Zimmer was 42 and Cynthia Watros was 29 so an aging veteran being out-performed by a rookie more than a decade younger, yeah no surprise there was alleged beef there.

The pattern across all three CBS primetime soaps in the off the rails plus budget mode era was to salary dump the long-time female cast members and bring on sweet young things hired on the cheap. The long-time male cast members were for the most part spared. Knots Landing final season the longest-tenured main cast members were Michele Lee, Ted Shackelford, Kevin Dobson, William Devane. Michele took a pay cut to appear in all episodes of the final season and Ted, Kevin, William had their episodes cut during the final season. So two "it was all a dream" resolutions.

If there was any character that defined the final 25 years of GL, it was Reva. With the 1990-1991 departures of Kim Zimmer, Robert Newman, Michael O'Leary, Grant Aleksander from the cast and Pamela Long from the writing team, many thought GL was going to be in for a rough stretch but I thought the show got better. Sadly it didn't last though.

So thirsty in this thread 🤣 Perhaps there should be a Beyond the Gates hotness thread.

It's not like the prized virgin heroine is a new thing. BITD there was Y&R Cricket, B&B Caroline, As the World Turns Lily.