Everything posted by kalbir
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Y&R January 2023 Discussion Thread
Bill Bell put Paul and Christine in each other's orbit in 1993 during the housing discrimination storyline. I think that pairing was set up because Michael Damian was on his way out. From what I've seen/read of Paul and Nikki's initial storyline, it was more troublemakers having a good time and I didn't think there was any genuine love there. I agree that Danny and Christine were genuine love.
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Y&R/B&B/GL Vault Updates
Thank you @ChickenNuggetz92 for all your time and effort in keeping the Vault going.
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Y&R January 2023 Discussion Thread
Agree. Tracey Bregman 40th anniversary this month. Hopefully her anniversary episode will have some scenes not shown since their original broadcast.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
@Paul Raven I'm not really familiar with most of 1980s GL but is it safe to say that they tried a good number of the 1980s trends but got them wrong? Dallas influence - Lewis family from Oklahoma that owns an oil company Dynasty influence - jet setter Alexandra Spaulding divorced from wealthy European Baron Von Halkein Supercouples - Phillip/Beth, Josh/Reva Action/adventure - not sure what would apply here
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
It cannot be emphasized enough that Bradley taking over coincides with time slot rival Reilly's Days taking off in the ratings. That could be why 1994 was trying to cash in on the Spelling Fox shows which were at their peak that year. Bradley's big storylines culminated in the first half of 1995 but the tanking began in the second half of 1995.
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Happy New Year 2023
Happy new year everyone. Stay safe 🤗
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Y&R 50th Anniversary - your ideas...
@Faulkner I forgot about Paul Walker.
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Y&R 50th Anniversary - your ideas...
Y&R isn't exactly known for discovering breakout talent and launching careers but there are a few "before they were stars" that might be mentioned during the 50th anniversary: Tom Selleck, David Hasselhoff, Shemar Moore, Eva Longoria.
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Falcon Crest
CBS had two drama series in the 1980s that starred Golden Age Hollywood actresses yet one actress was allegedly quite the diva while the other actress was by all accounts loved by everyone. Check out the promo starting at 0:36. The contrasts could not be more apparent.
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Y&R 50th Anniversary - your ideas...
These were on my wish list during the classics: EB's first episode Victor and Nikki first scene together Christmas 1981 Victor and ED Ashley first scene together Victor and TL Jack first scene together
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Retcons You Liked/Disliked
We saw Sheila pregnant once on Y&R (Scott's child that was miscarried) and once on B&B (Mary Warwick). The rewrite children are Finn, Diana Marone, Daisy Fisher, and Ryder Fisher.
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Y&R 50th Anniversary - your ideas...
To tie the 50th anniversary into the storyline, I like the idea of a Jabot anniversary celebration with a gala. Maybe also a primetime special look back/reunion.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
ABC was sold to Capital Cities in 1985 and Brandon Stoddard became president of ABC that year. By Fall 1985, Aaron Spelling was losing his clout at ABC as he was down to only four shows on the network (The Love Boat, Dynasty, Hotel, The Colbys). I have a feeling Brandon Stoddard was not a fan of Aaron Spelling and wanted the Spelling shows gone from ABC. It wasn't until Robert Iger became president of ABC in 1989 that the Spelling shows were totally gone from ABC with the ending of Dynasty and HeartBeat in Spring 1989.
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Y&R December 2022 Discussion Thread
@j swift The Bayou was a honky tonk dive bar, not a strip club. There was no pole, no roped off VIP section, no dollar bills on the stage.
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Ratings from the 1990s
1991/92 was a transition season for sitcoms, with four sitcoms reaching their highest finishes ever and five of the big 1980s sitcoms ending. CBS: Murphy Brown (3rd), Designing Women (6th), Major Dad (9th) got their highest finishes ever. This was the first season since 1981/82 that CBS had multiple sitcoms in the Top 10. ABC: Roseanne (2nd) was still going strong. New comedy Home Improvement (4th, tied w/ Cheers) was the breakout hit of the season. Full House (7th) got its first Top 10 finish (1991/92 was also its highest finish ever), and this was the season it moved from Friday 8 pm to Tuesday 8 pm. Coach (10th) got its first Top 10 finish. Who's the Boss and Growing Pains both were moved to Saturday and they ended this season. NBC: Cheers (4th, tied w/ Home Improvement first season) was still going strong but the rest of the sitcom lineup was not looking good. A Different World and Empty Nest fell out of the Top 10. The Cosby Show and The Golden Girls fell out of the Top 10 in what would be their final seasons. This season was also the end of Night Court.
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Knots Landing
At the height of primetime soaps (Fall 1982 to Spring 1985), Knots Landing set itself apart from the others with high emotional stakes character driven storytelling. Knots Landing may not have been the pop culture phenomenon and ratings grabbing monster hit that its parent show Dallas was, but I think the place Knots Landing has in television history is that of a spin off done right. Knots Landing carved its own identity separate from Dallas, and that's how its run and episode count pretty much equaled Dallas. Both shows ran 14 seasons, Dallas produced 357 episodes, and Knots Landing produced 344 episodes.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
Tuesday 8 pm/8:30 pm vs. The A-Team is where The Jeffersons and Alice ended their runs in 1985, so that time slot was where CBS sent the sitcoms they no longer had interest in.
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Y&R promo -Ring in the New Year, Genoa City style
Katherine memorial service maybe? But then Paul being MIA has to be addressed. Michael Damian could be around for a while. I think he would be a part of an episode for Tracey Bregman's 40th anniversary in January.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Hahaha Brad in a cage, not one of Bill Bell's finest hours. I remember someone here pointed out that it was sort of a redo of Michael Scott in the dungeon. SOD had Y&R as most disappointing in 1990. I thought 1990 was improvement over 1989, mainly because Cricket wasn't eating the show as much.
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Y&R: Old Articles
@soapfan770 When Bill Bell put Victor in Cassandra's orbit in 1989 it felt like a cat/mouse game and in 1990 it felt like a rebound pairing. I did feel that EB had more of a connection w/ NA than he did w/ BE though. A Victor/Cassandra marriage might have been more 1990s high society/business power couple than genuine love. On a totally shallow note, EB was anti-aging in 1989 and 1990. I guess getting the show's new pet that's 20 years younger than he is as his new love interest played a part in that. Go figure 1989 was the year Y&R finally beat General Hospital for #1 overall but I think Y&R's reaching #1 was mainly due to holding on to their audience during the writer's strike, plus the factors of weak time slot competition and strong lead ins The Price is Right or local news.
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Your daily (or nightly) thought
Happy holidays everyone. Stay safe 🤗
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Y&R December 2022 Discussion Thread
And never will be.