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Amy Perkins was so sweet and normal, why did they have to kill her too? Since SB never had an older go-to-character (the parents were as crazy as the kids) Brick and Amy should have stayed around as the normal middle class couple.

I will never forgive Conboy for messing with the Capwell set. You are right about him though, there are a lot of things he did right during his time on SB. The show stopped being sad, violent and dark and he gave the canvas some much needed structure. I didn't care for the Cassandra actress, I thought she was not as interesting as her stories. Julia's rape should never have happened. Let's not talk about Augusta's fantasies about her sister's rapist. The story with the boys thinking that they killed Cassie, Conboy did that years later on GL. He must have been a fan of the 1984 GL story.

I have a Douglas Marland question: In 1983, during his Loving Days he wrote a story about Jack Forbes, a young man who had been adopted by a rich family as a baby, falling for a fragile blonde girl who was being mollested by her father while her mother was too weak to deal with it. During the same time GL had Phillip in the same story with Beth Raines and her stepfather Bradley while Pamela K. Long was in charge. Do you think he planned to do GL story before leaving in 1982 and that they next regime liked the idea? Didn't the Bradley Raines actor also play Angel's father on the same ATWT story when Marland was in charge?

At one point I remember reading that AW wanted to buy the rights to the Mason & Julia characters from Santa Barbara. I wonder what the show's plans were.

I kind of like that It is interesting to think that Rachel Davis and Erica Kane started out as the same person and that they followed different paths over the years. The Horton brothers both in all with Laura Spencer, the Foster brothers in love with Chris Brooks and the Forrester brothers will Caroline Spencer -all stories written by Bill Bell- didn't end the same way. This is the beauty of soap opera.

No, I also think that everytime I watch the 1984 episode with the Donovan set Doug Donovan and Seth Snyder from ATWT Stacey Donovan and GL's Hilary Bauer, both secretly in love with a popular guy (Jack/Kelly) Phillip Spaulding was a kid on GL during the Marland years, but Jack Forbes grew up as the adopted heir on Loving Marland's first Ava (Patty Lutz) was a factory worker and a lot more similar to Nola Reardon than later Avas who were more like Erica Kane. Lily Slater's story -which was dropped- was later told on ATWT with Angel. I am sure Marland was not happy to see the Donovans written out so quickly. The show gave up on its original characters way too soon.

Thank you Wasn't there also a character named Fiona Fing or something like that at some point, or am I making things up? Which characters do you think were missed opportunities? Interesting actors/characters who could have lasted longer and get more story.

Who is that woman with Eden in the studio? For some reason I think her name is either Fiona or Lydia.

I don't get this project at all.

He did show up in the show's first Christmas episodes. Deborah also showed up. BTW I had never seen Larkin as Clay before and from these few minutes, I feel that he was the best-suited for the part. I'd love to see Celeste Holm and Patricia Barry as Isabelle, but I feel that Augusta was the ideal rich Alice Horton. Amelia was gorgeous back then and in my eyes she still is.

My problem is that I don't see the connection between Dynasty and this CW project. A rich man marries a younger woman his spoiled daughter doesn't like, that's too generic; they could also call this show AW-CW. Mac Cory marries Raquel and young Iris gets furious. Sandy Cory is gay and gets involved with Raquel's brother Jaime. Cecile is black. Blaine is a black man. Robert Delaney is black. The end.

On a totally different show.

It's not even bad. It is boring, unispired and dated. This is supposed to be the modern version of Steven? The character had a warmth, a sadness and a sexiness during the Al Corley years. What I saw in the trailer was the usual, secondary gay character who walks around all dressed up holding a drink and trying to be witty. The music was all wrong for the trailer. Judging from "Cristal's" looks if they ever get past episode 4 they will bring a blonde to play Alexis. CWFallon aka Random CW Girl from 2008 You don't mess with the Dynasty logo for no reason. They should have called the show Teen Heiress of Denver.

Who didn't get raped on this show? Was that during the Quinn/Robert story?

Lol almost every video you guys post has another opening and a different tone. I have watched the 1983-89 episodes and from what you have posted here, I think I would have enjoyed the 1992-95 material a lot. Not a fan of the City though, it was trying to copy the Aaron Spelling soaps and it was missing the warmth and the old-school charm of the original show. If they had managed to keep at least a few popular key characters and beloved actors around, and not mess with the show's structure all the time, LOVING might have survived for several more years. It is never a good idea to recast your entire central family multiple times within a few years, B&B survived through the madness because the key players were the same for decades. Wesley Addy, Augusta Dabney, Noelle Beck, Robert Tyler, Perry Stephens, Chris Marcantel (Curtis should have been given the Rick storyline), Roya Megnot, Shannon Eubanks, Christine Tudor should have been kept. Stacey's brother Doug should have stayed around with a charismatic actor and been given the stories several random men who came and left within the years. Rena Sofer and Rebecca Gayheart should have been Rescotts or Donovans. BTW what was that set in the 1991 episode? A mall or a street? I liked it. The Burnells set was also very nice.

Watching Marj in this clip I thought that she would have made a great Rita Stapleton recast on GL in the early nineties.

I remember that poster on the crazy board where people are not allowed to mention LA soaps by name. She claimed to be an African American post-op transsexual married woman with two kids who had worked on several shows. Some of her stories were very interesting. There was also a lot of talk about food in her posts for some reason.

I never understood why the show killed off Joe so early

I have no idea why they were so eager to get rid of Caroline. The show had a tendency to kill off characters after they had a short period of happiness. Joe Perkins, Mary Duvall, Amy Perkins, Caroline, Hayley all had tragic deaths within a few years. I started losing interest in the show after Caroline's death because started were getting way too sad and dark for me with all the deaths and rapes. The recasts didn't help either. After Caroline's death and the departures of Jane and Alice the show brought back Laken as a vixen and we were informed that she never had a baby as Augusta had told everybody .Wasn't Augusta brought back as a mobster's wife after a while? Now that you mention it, it could be Anne Howard Bailey who introduced Father Michael. Santa Barbara is one of the shows that would benefit from being a half-hour soap focusing on the core families.

I think that Father Michael was brought by the Dobsons, during the time the show wanted to get Mason involved with another nun. I adored Caroline and the family dynamics in the Lockridge house with Lionel, Warren, Alice and Jane. Lenore Karsdorf was a gorgeous, talented woman who should have stayed longer on a soap opera. I always hoped that Brad Bell would bring either her or Denise Alexander as Beth Logan on B&B.

The Dobsons had worked with the actor on ATWT where he played Steve and wanted to work with him again. He even had a sister and a father on the show and he was involved in stories with Julia, Gina, Celeste/Crystal, Cruz and many others. They did the same with Lenore Karsdorf whose character Caroline was Rita Stapleton 2.0, but we all know how that ended.

I didn't like the Michael/Laura/Ethan/Gina stories at all. I felt that TPTB could not make up their mind what to do with them. Then Laura became Heather Webber out of the blue and even had a friend in the hospital just like Heather's friend. SB should stick to focusing on the Capwells and the Lockridges, since every single new group of characters they tried to focus on didn't last more than one or two years (of weird rewrites)

How do you think Douglas Marland would have continued his stories on GL? I am sure some of his ideas were used on LOVING and ATWT. Would the Reardons become his Snyders? We already had "Emma", "Meg" and "Nola" and "Holden/Caleb" Would Morgan Richards become his Lily Snyder? Jennifer Richards reminded me a little bit of a much softer Lucinda Walsh with her two daughters, one of whom she had given up as a baby. What were his plans for Carrie? And her son? Would Phillip be SORASed to have Jack Forbes's problems?

Lorna had an Pamela Sue Martin/Emma Samms situation. She became so weak and boring when O'Hara Parker (?) took over and that marriage to Zach Conway sure didn't help.

Greg was brought as a new version of Ted. I didn't like him at all. During that time we also got the Dinapolli sisters. And perhaps Ethan, Laura and Father Michael. That's when I stopped watching on a daily basis. My problem was the the original Capwell kids had amazing chemistry with each other. Mason adored Ted and Kelly; Kelly and Eden were also very close and this was lost between all the recasts. One thing that bothered me with Carrington's version of Kelly was that they were getting involved with the same men. Perhaps John Conboy -who btw ruined the iconic Capwell set- saw them as the new Lori and Leslie Brooks