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Did you not like Douglas Marland's work? I always love reading your thoughts on the shows

Kelly Nelson's storyline should have been given to Billy Fletcher.

Another crazy era. All these "stars" in random roles. Βut at least it felt more like B&B back then with Stephanie and Ridge around.

These 1982 episodes! Thank you so much! Now this is a soap opera. Jill's journey from the 1974 episode where she dreams about being rich and is introduced to Kay for the first time to these scenes where she is ready to marry another older rich man after the Phillip tragedy. She is not as naive anymore, she knows what she has to do. And she still believes that the answer to all her problems is finding a father figure to replace Bill Foster. Jill Foster was a fascinating character. It is so sad that she is an afterthought these days. She should be involved in the Billy stories and the Abbott drama. And the Jack-Ashley scenes. 35 years later we still have the Abbott siblings in the family living room dealing with another family crisis. This is why I love soap operas. I love JLB. Lori is fascinating, too bad that she didn't become the Newman matriarch instead of Nikki. I find the Nikki scenes the least interesting from the 1982 episodes. Kevin is also rather boring. It is nice to see Kay involved though. Patty is someone I expected to be bland and boring, but the actress was very good. Too bad that she didn't stay longer with the show. Characters like Karen, Carolyn, Robert, Claire, Angela, Cindy came and went without leaving a mark. Those crazy transitional Y&R years with all these random people. I still don't understand how the show survived this era. The Lance/Leslie/Brooks scenes were something I enjoyed a lot. They felt like a seventies romance novel and their tone was completely different than the rest of the show.

It was horrible. For a show called Dynasty, something we have been waiting for decades. If it was presented as a new version of Titans it might be ok. No style, so substance, no drama, no emotion, no conflict, no surprise. The thing I hated most was this harmless version of Steven, which belongs to a play from the 60s. Always holding a drink, talking about Fallon's hair or helping her with it, always trying to be witty. One of the most fascinating characters in the original was Steven, a tortured soul, a sexual creature, adoring his sister, trying to prove himself to his father, trying to make it in a difficult working arena, always getting in trouble, missing his mother, being nice to Krystle, trying to hide his pain and his sensitivities. Someone I adored and someone I felt really close to me as a viewer. And we get this? Fallon did nothing for me. Basic spoiled girl from a 2007 teen series. Blake should be less horndog, more cruel businessman. His new bride Melania served no purpose. Not nice enough to root for her, not mean enough to hate her. Just a woman for the catfight scenes, someone who has never watched Dynasty might this this is enough. And then we have the boring guy from Revenge and the primetime soap twink that gets to sleep with the rich son is back for another show. I don't feel that the new PTB ever watched the original. Just read a synopsis and watched some classic clips. Then they decided to bring the show to 2017 by making the new Mrs Carrington a Latina and make Fallon's love interests black. Plus a gay stereotype from a 60s play. How modern and open-minded are we? I don't get why this show had to be called Dynasty, just because of some similiarities in the structure. It might as well have been Another World with Mac, Raquel, Iris, gay Sandy, gay Jamie, and Steven with Alice instead of Matthew and Claudia. No opening. No tribute to the original. Nothing smart. Nothing creative. Nobody said something interesting within the episode, they were walking bad soap opera cliches with even worse music background. No fun. I don't think I will watch again, unless I am bored to death and not a single person answers my calls.

Patty Lutz's Ava was more like Nola, since Douglas Marland created her. At least this is how a remember her. She was a construction worker, the last kid of many, living with her widowed mother who ran a boarding house. Roya's Ava was mini-Ava and Lisa's was more like OLTL Tina.

I am fascinated by early 80s OLTL, there is a balance between old and new soap that seems to be lost in the Tina/Gabrielle era.

From what I remember Juliet was involved in the Jack/Stacey/Rick story and the woman tied to the Dan Hollister story was Carrie.

I was shocked that Abrill lasted 2-3 years on this show. When she first showed up, she seemed like one of those characters who would be gone in six months. Another Colby, April, Juliet, Sasha, Dolly.

Another Loving era! These episodes look a little bit wilder than usual. The dramatic funeral clothes, Ava's fantasy (inspired by Nola's fantasies?), the Clay/Gwyneth scene with the knife, Trisha's baby drama etc. If these episodes were from 1995, I'd say that they were inspired by JER's Days.

Too bad that Tori Spelling was a General Hospital fan and picked Emma Samms as the new Fallon. Had she been watching Capitol, she could have seen Deborah Mullowney and chosen her.

Why would someone replace this beautiful, classy music theme. It was the last thing that needed to be fixed.

Thanks for the tag! I have such a soft spot for early B&B. It was my very first daytime soap and I loved the show's first era. After watching more soap operas I started having such high hopes for this show. Too bad that it ended up becoming a joke. I loved the Logan family dynamics. I was obsessed with Stephanie Forrester, SF made her such a fascinating character. Despite wanting Eric to end up with Beth (and later with Brooke), I couldn't help feeling for Stephanie and respecting her. 2017 Eric should be involved with Margo instead of Quinn and Wyatt should have been her son Marc. The show really needs a moral center these days. At least one person who wouldn't sleep through an entire family. Brad Bell ruined this show, it used to be so good and it had so much potential.

Random HW thoughts: - It was so funny watching Dallas Leeanne act like Brandi was her best friend, what a psycho. The praying, the way she talked to Stephanie, returning to the event in order to fight with the hostess, pretending to be normal during therapy. - Bethenny is ruining NY for me. And so is Carole. They are mean, jealous, do everything they accuse the others of doing and they are trying so hard to act like the coolest girls in school. Ramona is Ramona, she is gorgeous, but she is so sad after her divorce. I don't believe that she is dating. She is a real-life ATWT Lisa in my eyes for some reason and I believe that she is still a broken little girl inside. I love her. And team Countess Luann all the way, while the others where yelling to her she was living her life. Let's not pretend that her marriage to Tom was a worse idea than the Jason Hoppy mess. - I think that BH would be a mess without LVP and Kyle. The Erika persona is a sad joke she takes way too seriously and Lisa Rinna is a toxic version of Brandi. Dorit is ok, but it is the other two who need to be replaced.

The show was canceled here in Greece several years ago. We are too poor to afford US soaps these days.

The show was just fine and then Reva showed up and ruined everything for me. I was never a fan of the Lewises either. Or Vanessa pretending to be Sue Ellen Ewing.

I don't think the show needed Reva in the first place.

For some reason I thought that ED's Blake would turn out to be Beth. JFP's recasts were horrible. Alan, Alex, Blake, Alan-Michael Mindy. With the right actor in the part, the show might not have needed Reva back. Marj could have played Rita Stapleton.

There was a time when I felt that the show was trying really hard to replace the Viki/Dorian feud with Nora/Lindsay

Blake was Roger and Holly's daughter, she was raised as a Bauer, had three kids with Ross Marler and she had been married to the Spaulding brothers. She should have been the show's leading lady. Do you think that casting Liz Keifer ruined that chance? Would someone like Michelle Stafford, Jamie Luner or Sarah Brown fit the part better? Of course with Kim Zimmer and her crazy Reva stories dominating GL's last decade, would there really be room for Blake working at Spaulding Enterprises, raising three teenagers, feuding with Beth and Dinah, flirting with Alan-Michael... etc...

I loved Cruz and Julia's friendship. Do you think that Cruz/Julia/Mason (dare I add Gina or Santana to the mix?) would have been a better idea than Cruz/Kelly once MW left?

You are so right. RVF never felt like Ed, especially at a time when everything was changing on the show. It is a very funny thing with recasts. And sometimes we like the new actor so much that we don't mind that they were a rather odd choice.

"The thing with Iris and Mac and Rachel was a great incest story basically. And we never had to say it. They played it for all it was worth."

I hated Phillip Hamilton and I couldn't stand Warren Burton on GL either While discussing the show and remembering different eras, storylines etc I realise that it would have benefited from a very strong producer who could keep the writers in line and make sure that they don't lose so many beloved actors every fix months. Another problem was the hour format. The show had a rather small cast of key characters (the Capwells, Gina, Cruz, Julia, Santana, Keith, -Brick &Amy?- and the Locridges) Being a half-hour show would have saved us from all these secondary isolated characters who had their six-month story before being written out.

Before leaving town didn't Cain have one of the most disturbing storylines ever? A young woman called Ming Li was posing as his long-lost daughter from his days in Vietnam. She had been hired by Phillip Hamilton, who was obsessed with Andrea and she was trying to seduce Cain, her "father".