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Still such a great scene.

That's because the show doesn't like them either (at least not together), and wants people to focus on Britt and Obrecht.

Nobody should give one-note Britt or her war criminal mom the time of day.

Yeah, no. I'll leave bait alone.

Far from a flop, but sure. Good luck getting its new audience.

There's just a lot of internecine warfare and cliquism in the online right. A lot of them hate each other and clout chase and command legions of incel stans. I wasn't shocked one took a shot at him.

No, MVJ has explicitly said twice he isn't.

interesting deets in the TV Insider article:

That was my suspicion in the first place.

I am so tired of seeing Infomercial Molly in this goddamn eczema cream ad with this sailor suit top. Just putting it out there. Nice girl but spent character.

B&B isn't competition obviously, and still has a very loyal audience. But I do think they are now in a position where every other soap has LGBT characters and BTG has a unique audience (though I don't know if it has a gay following), so in these leaner ratings times they may be willing to try more to draw some of it for themselves.

I think it's a real factor. BTG has genuinely grabbed a new audience for a soap, at least in the social media gen (and from what I hear anecdotally, many of their parents or relatives). And a lot of them like an excuse to catch up or are just learning how daytime's schedule works.

Interesting we're on the same page.

I was wondering the same. I find it curious for a few reasons, but my pipe dream suspicion probably ain't happening.

That was some time ago. Dani does crazy soap opera shít (as do a good portion of the cast), but Dani is not being played as Alison. And she has mellowed considerably in recent weeks/months. I am sure she will show out again and make a fool of herself in some ways, that's the nature of the character and the show, but she's not displaying in Chelsea's life like Alison. That is fanwank based on the momager stuff.

The Vanessa/Dani relationship has always been a better fit than her and Nicole IMO. I see why they felt she couldn't have her and Cady's wacky character as talk-tos. I do think Vanessa can have both. I am not against more of Pamela with Dani - I am one of the few who seems to enjoy Pamela, in doses - but the business needs to get off the ground and they should introduce some family for her to flesh her out (as well as Vanessa's kids when ol' Doug inevitably heads for the big Golden Corral in the sky). I do think they will inevitably pair Derek and Shanice for real. That's the vibe onscreen. But Ben Gavin is pretty terrible, so I fear they'd write her out with him.

Dani has been pretty levelheaded lately AFAIC. And as I said the other night, both she and Nicole are pretty straight-up in their intentions compared to their parents or some of the kids or spouses.

Oh my God, I said it about Doug but Ted actually is Kirk Van Houten.

I think MG is too surface while also playing an even weaker character. The scrappy underdog Hayley people dreamed up before the show debuted is not the Hayley that's ever actually appeared onscreen (that ended up being Eva) - she's basically a transparent, whiny third wheel and now nascent schemer. They've never done much with her, and I think MG struggles with the often very purple prose they give her.

Really? Reddit cracked down on that? That's one soft subreddit. This is why I think soap opera discourse on Reddit just feels weird and alien to me. I don't cross those streams.

I do wonder if they’re feeling a bit of heat re: BTG. Martin, Smitty, Chelsea and her robo-doctor are all frontburner there and Martin and Smitty just had a love scene yesterday.

A sure sign of the apocalypse.

Welp, the end times are here. Someone check the skies for raining blood.

Please no. Those threads about a predominantly Black soap don't need to be inundated with 12 posts a day about how there's not enough of the white guy.

I think Newsom's statement could've been classy without pretending Kirk was something he wasn't or didn't espouse hate every single day. That's the problem with most of these Dem statements out today. Willful blinders. Pritzer handled it right. Harris didn't break bread with a bunch of alt right chuds who flirt with white supremacy and push anti-trans talking points. That's the difference. There were a lot of factors that went into the loss, but Newsom will never be the nominee (no matter how badly he wants to be) because of who he keeps company with.