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The part about that scene that gets me is Tad telling Erica he's known her his entire life (well, close to it) and would never hurt her. That's the generational power of the medium.

You can hear Wyndham's voice very clearly in this interview, which I remember @DRW50talking up over the years.

I had forgotten Sharlene turned up near the end? I don't remember that at all.

I just remember by the end of the show it seemed like Rachel and Carl wore matching silk pajamas all the time while sounding like the SNL skit about 'lovahs.' A far cry from the '70s and '80s episodes on YT.

In case you haven't noticed you annoy literally everyone here and have for years, lol. I'm just the one who will always remind you you can't do anything about people critiquing soap operas. At all. So good luck.

Good people can become possessed all the time, in literature and fiction. It could easily have been a medical condition or any number of things. I don't think it's particularly important to see how Doug got possessed, but I do think the show is moving fairly quickly and I agree that the pacing and block-taping actors' techniques Ron and his crew learned at ABC with Frank Valentini do the story no favors. This show rotates actors, stories, etc. in a slipshod fashion that began at OLTL and GH and continues today. Sometimes that cost-cutting method of story rotation worked at ABC, when the shows had a reasonably sized cast and a clear focus and sense of pace, but when they didn't you'd go weeks or months without seeing a plot or subplot and hear about events offscreen constantly. You can't just leave the Possession hanging for a week or two.

The only way this would work going fwd is if Jason and Carly didn't let it go and ultimately embarked on an affair, a la Roman/John/Marlena on DAYS. Chances that happens are IMO minimal, lol.

People like Martha Madison because she engages with fans. But with the exception of a very brief period with JKJ aeons ago, she has never worked and has always skewed way older. She's the reason Shawn and Belle are little more than exasperated parents today. I think it's too late to recast Belle, roll her back and make her a lead, especially with her daughter and Sami's twins now on the show as young adults (and you're never going to supplant Sami's role on the canvas, gone or not). People have been crying about me saying this since her first day onscreen, but nothing has changed. They like the idea of her working out more than she ever has.

It's all Frank IMO, and some of his writers have def fallen down on the ball though I think the current HW team might (or might not) be capable of more solo.

Nadia Bjorlin, JKJ, Madison, Beemer, etc. do not need the unemployment line bc this show just brings them back every 6-9 months. Madison has never been a lead actress and never will be so her being in the Possession is out, and I doubt you can recast Belle at this point sadly. The character has been a nonentity for the better part of 15 years.

I think all they respond to these days are flyover state fans and FB/Twitter. They can occasionally pander to them and say, 'look, we did it.' Everything else feels like Frank's Playhouse.

If this was normal times, of course, people would get fired for this. But since ABC no longer cares, no one will. See also: Josh Griffith, Y&R.

IMO Frank has been micromanaging this show for his own vision since RC was fired. They clicked together in sync, whether the work was good or bad, but I think with Frank solo, having consumed all that hype from soap bloggers and Twitter folk that they were the saviors of ABC soaps and the last guardian of the history, it emboldened him to try to become Jill Farren Phelps - creating the show himself with his favorite folks, adding in bits and pieces of OLTL, etc. at any opportunity. Frank couldn't stand Dena Higley at OLTL but serviced her vision as an EP in those years because it was necessary. Now he's running the show.

Rushed, lazy and anticlimactic has been this show's MO for years.

He should've walked in with her coming down the stairs in Jason's shirt. Isn't that how it went down with Jason when she fucked Sonny, IIRC?

Only on this show would Sonny not walk in on them in bed together.

Elizabeth Debicki is a brilliant actress. It would be hard to top her, though I'm sure Kristen Stewart does a great job.

I remember the scuttlebutt way back when being that Kristen Meadows (Mimi) only held on for as long as she did due to friends in high places, but I've no idea if that's true. It always seems like an odd character.

There's a big difference between the smoke I have for someone trying to silence any critique of soap operas vs. someone who's never learned basic netiquette in the year of our Lord 2021. I may not like your random obsessions that often lead nowhere but at least they're not trying to infringe on someone's speech. Anyway, when you learn how to embed a tweet after 10+ years we can revisit this conversation.

I'll leave you alone when you learn the same lesson many people have been trying to teach you here for what must be close to a decade: If someone doesn't like a show and expresses that POV there is absolutely nothing you can fuckíng do about it. I myself have no opinion on Beyond Salem atm, but the question of whether someone can hold an opinion divergent from mine is quite clear. No debate, no calling for them to stop. You lose. Move on with your life.

Yep.

lollll

I only saw this ringer's post bc it was in the posts ticker on the right hand side of the main board, since he's already on Ignore. I regret to inform them I have not been to DL in almost a decade. Sorry, champ.

smdh that Howarth has been on this show long enough and had enough different characters that he's gone from having a elder/junior relationship with the much younger Kirsten Storms on the show when he started to being chemistry tested with her now that she too has most definitely gone through it IRL

"Dear friends" indeed! Good for Eure and Marx. I too remembered Wesley Eure talking about losing Patty Weaver in his life, and it's lovely to know they've reconnected.