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Having trended this AM for his arrogance, Nate continues to have a real one:

I have no doubt Ellen Wheeler cared. She just simply wasn't qualified or competent in that position.

John Bolger, even in later years, was an unconventionally sexy dude with an amazing voice who JFP tried to poorly force into another leading role on OLTL, when the character was introduced as an unappealing villain and he just could not match up to the rest of the leading men on canvas while playing a swinging dick. Trying to push him in a "hot" love triangle with Florencia Lozano and god among men Tim Stickney - please. If he'd come on as a Bob Krimmer/Reverend Andrew soulful type in a supporting role he could've done well. I even liked him in those silly pharmaceutical ads, but wow did I hate Sykes on OLTL.

That kind of religious fervor, family conditioning and denial can lead to all sorts of bad behavior. I'm not condoning it and I'd like to hear from the ex, but I've had partners or friends who lived pretty difficult, complicated lives before coming to terms with shít. I'm glad the guy seems happier.

While this Politico piece typically runs with the GOP quote as a headline, it's actually fairly instructive about the nightmare the Republicans currently face:

Meanwhile! Nate Silver embarrasses himself tripling down on his poor attempts to be Pandemic Whisperer. The last line kills me.

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(Note: Red Eye was not funny)

tbh I think the claims that Peter Bergman was against Cliff/Angie are apocryphal. I went looking for evidence of it a few months ago, and instead found a quote on this very site of him talking the story up, in print, in 1999, calling its rejection "pretty devastating." That said he also blamed it on the audience 'only being able to see Cliff with Nina and Angie with Jesse,' which I think is a generous at best reading of something I feel was equally fueled by racism. I can believe Bergman was secretly against the Cliff/Angie story for popularity reasons, but without evidence I think it's a little convenient. If Debbi said something different on the Agnes Nixon tribute stream I've yet to watch of course I'd believe it. I do think his behavior re: the Keemo story and Victoria Rowell is a mix of simple white privilege/tone deafness and arrogance and distaste with a poor story which isn't that bad compared to shít like Marco. I think it has a racial element in terms of that ignorance. Do I think he's a raging bigot, no, but there's a lot of degrees of ignorant behavior and micro-aggression.

Oy, pls no.

That's not my point. We all know how much of daytime is gay, and how many of them very, very capably sold hetero love scenes for decades. But there was an edge to those scenes that I very rarely see. If you disagree, fine.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'll never believe Guy Wilson is str8 after seeing those scenes. I have rarely seen a hetero love scene on a soap get that intensely horny between the two actors. There were a few scenes in the GL Conboy era that came close, where stuff with David Andrew Macdonald and Laura Wright felt almost uncomfortable to watch.

They finally brought Carly Schroeder as Serena back for the Peter Hansen tribute episode a few years ago, and she was excellent and still beautiful. And right after that she promptly enlisted in the military IRL, so that's that lol. I have no idea why Ron broke up Kevin and Lucy seeing as reuniting them and restoring as part of the firmament would seem to have been one of his typical soap classicist goals, and that's what he accomplished in 2013. I assume that the affair with Scott, outing at the Nurse's Ball, etc. is just another example of his subplot shenanigans getting away from him and never being properly resolved by the time he left. That happened a lot with Ron.

Labine had it all set up, but my understanding is Wendy Riche snaked it out from under her by selling PC as more cost-effective (filming in LA, preexisting infrastructure, etc.)

I thought spinning Kevin and Lucy off worked. I thought the execution of PC left a lot to be desired, but it had some good periods and bad ones. I don't think it ever fully measured up to the better later '90s years of Loving. IMO the "rumors" in that period in the 2010s were at least 50% the invention of a very overinvested Kevin and Lucy fan. I think some of the more vague stories about what was planned for story for Kevin, Lucy and their daughters are true and got stalled, but I think others down to casting were pure fanfic being disseminated online.