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If we're having to nuke lots of posts just to keep up with this, maybe it's better to deal with the common denominator once and for all.

The latter is still one of my favorite soap scenes. So fùcked up, the layers in those relationships and Sharon's with Den Sr. They bungled his return but the beginning phases were well done.

I'm with them.

Same here. And yes, that's what she's thinking of. Donna just gets very excited, spams threads with anything that crosses the transom of her mind, and we're expected to live with it.

As usual for Donna, that is completely incorrect.

There's no reason to recast Skye. Natalia has to go. And Arianne Zucker is way too old.

Thread. Rosenberg was right last year, and I think he still is.

I'm just not pleased with how they've rapidly assassinated Portia's character. I think her having major issues with Spencer is great, but this whole thing is too much.

Nate is there to be Other Black Guy. Almost all characters of color feel interchangeable and disposable on Y&R to me, but many of the white folks too.

Again they have mentioned her by name and what she's up to, and Taggert did allude to Nikolas/Gia not long ago. I do think they should do more with it though (and bring her back).

Gia has been mentioned recently and is supposedly still practicing law (an odd career choice she took up near the end of her run), I think they said in Arizona? Why Taggert has not brought up Nikolas/Gia more in the course of this mess is beyond me. He was very involved with them for awhile.

He would come up with such a lame alias, too.

Bob's been a silver fox for awhile now. So wonderful to see them all, even with Fiona's dreadful zoom background!

My reaction is I haven't been able to take the word "Pikeman" seriously since the beginning months ago.

A show they infrequently watch during sweeps, to be clear. This was always my plan. I do think you'd have to go back to Nikolas with them for a time and it would be hot stuff with Ava who would probably lose her mind, but you could also then very easily move her away from Nik if you so chose. But to me Ava and Emily would probably be the two extreme opposite poles in Nikolas' life.

I don't think Barbara's initial metamorphosis under Sheffer was so bad given the past (she is great as a vixen in Marland's run - viewers were crazy). CZ played it all to the hilt every time. I do think by the time she was leaping out of windows it had gotten ridiculous, and it's good they ultimately rolled her back.

I have made many complaints about the Reva Show era in the late 90s-early 2000s over the years. I even think some of the truly bad changes to the show were ironically to Kim's advantage as a performer, stripped of a lot of the Rauch-era artifice. But there's also no doubt that without Kim, Robert Newman and several others the show would've both off the air that much sooner.

Good news in Ohio - Issue 1 (a GOP attempt to restrain voters' protection of abortion rights) soundly defeated:

Finally going to stream past seasons. I'll actually be able to catch up!

Zimmer stood by her contract for the same reason Jerry verDorn left the show and took a major contract role on ABC when it cut him to recurring in 2005 - GL and CBS were screwing them both. (Grant Aleksander left shortly before JVD after being pushed out by the same regime) Their reasons were all valid IMO. It's obvious someone wants to mitigate Wheeler's, the show's, the network's and parent company's shared responsibility for its consistent failure state til its cancellation and the tactics they employed against the GL ensemble. (And I'm sorry, but Donna has a well-documented history of forgiving Ellen or other AW alum anything.) Kim, loud, flamboyant and divisive, is simply a convenient choice vs. trying to also throw blame on Grant or a dead man. Noelle Beck is a nice lady and a fine actor. But that recast was a failure and never worked, for the audience or most of the cast. She was all class suggesting they bring back MB for the end. Martha left in part for reasons that are perhaps best left unsaid, as she is clearly too disturbed to talk about them in public even today.

LOL we'll never get over that. I have expounded at length in the past on how and why I would bring Emily and Georgie back even just as a special event and then quickly usher them offscreen again, just to have them available for potential future use with recasts - Lindze Letherman still looks great in her various ghost appearances in the last decade but I am pretty sure she is fully retired from acting, sadly. And had an anniversary been pending I would've tried to convince Amber Tamblyn to make an appearance as Em, and IMO she might've done it. But now I think the best thing is to bring one or both back, usher one out but maybe keep an all-new Emily (a doctor, a Quartermaine) around.

I don't think Dillon and Georgie have anything to do with Pratt. Guza was clearly enamored of Scott Clifton/Dillon and therefore kept trying to put him with anyone but Georgie, because yes, in his second run he did disdain most 'nice' characters. That couple was an unexpected major success for the show, and any time 2000s GH came across an unexpected success (Julie Berman, etc.) they would try to mold it into or around the characters and concepts Guza preferred - Berman's Lulu and JT's Patrick become BFFs with Carly, Dillon becomes a surrogate son to Luke, Dillon is slowly moved away from Georgie towards Lulu, etc. But Pratt was no better. Most of the characters he crafted or adored were dated, camp primetime soap stereotypes, including his conception of Courtney, the kung fu kickboxing blonde champion and Faith, the blonde evil mob whore who humped her criminal rivals to death like Famke Janssen in Goldeneye. All of Faith's popularity as a character came in spite of the atrociously broad writing for her and was due to Cynthia Preston's talent. Reese was almost certainly another Pratt concept, and probably the last. Billy and Alison became afterthoughts for MP in later years, as Pratt became more ascendent at that show. Nice characters like Georgie are no different, and Pratt was never the prime mover at GH.