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j swift

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  1. j swift replied to YRBB's topic in Off Topic Lounge
    I need a second opinion. I found this pic of 80's hunk Christopher Atkins (Dallas) on Tumblr. Is there an inadvertent ball-slip from those short shorts?
  2. I have a theory that the key to decoding any Housewives scene is watching who gets to be the talking head commenting on the action. Thus, it was surprising to me that Denise, (who has been an obvious pain in the tush for production) got such a favorable edit in Rome. Sutton and Dorit were chosen as the narrators and they provided the audience with reasonable doubt when it comes to Brandi's allegations. One could imagine that the fan response would have been very different if Kyle or Teddi's interviews were interspersed in that scene. Certainly every housewife is interviewed about each scene, however, by only using the Sutton and Dorit footage, it was easier to either sympathize with Denise or vilify Teddi. I've read fan theories that RHOBH is focusing on Denise because nothing was going on for the other women. However, I doubt this because there are hours of footage that go into each week's episode and these story editors could have created drama out of any number of events that went unseen. We have no idea about the other scenes of Sutton, Rinna, or Garcelle that could have made for an interesting story. This was chosen because Denise stopped filming and the editors needed to provide context to the story about why that occurred.
  3. I believe the appropriate adjective would be "zaddy" !
  4. Not to be argumentative but, this is a classic example of people interpreting data without basic statistical knowledge. Comparing an average rating year to year does not take variability into account, which is the basis for measuring significant change. For example, Andy Cohen has stated that the ratings for Miami Housewives decreased over the course of the final season. However, if one was to average the high rating at the beginning of the season with the low rating at the end of the season, that average would not seem very different from the average rating of the season before it. Which is why variability in statistics has always been a more important determinant than the average. I get frustrated when fans discuss drops in raw rating numbers because it is reductive in terms of how ratings are used by networks to set fees for advertisers. Networks have always used ratings to provide a prediction to their advertisers about the ratings for a given show in order to set the fee for commercials. The ratings are there to prove the accuracy of that prediction. The audience samples are bias toward those who will buy the advertiser's products and do not include people with digital cable services (like youtube tv), people with certain household demographics, and it does not reflect the proportion of the minority status of the US population. If they over predict then they have to return part of the fee, and if they under predict then they need to charge more the following season. Networks would never release their predictions to the public, (because they want more people to watch than they predicted), so there is virtually no person involved in the system that looks at the data in the way it is presented above. Again, I hope the reader will excuse my exasperated tone, but ratings are not an indication audience response. Ratings are reliable and stable so they cannot be used to interpret if the audience likes a certain cast member or storyline. That data is taken from audience response surveys, not letter writing campaigns, or twitter replies to Andy Cohen. So, as a fan base, can we finally stop caring if an intentionally bias sample of 5% of the audience watches the same show that we like? There are more important things to worry about; like whether Dorit will finish decorating the room at Buca di Beppo on time for Teddi's baby shower.
  5. I think the missed opportunity with Santana was making her the third wheel in the Eden/Cruz storyline. By history, Santana was in love with Channing, and left Santa Barbara to study interior design in Europe, after giving birth to Brandon. Making her into a whiny drug addict who developed a dependent relationship with Cruz really pinned her character into a corner. I would have preferred either an ongoing collusion with Mason, (who needed an ally), in order to take down CC. Or, an ongoing rivalry with Gina. It felt like once Gina was recast with Robin Mattson, she made most of the storyline potential for Santana seem redundant. Brandon was better suited to be raised by Gina, and Eden became too good to scrap with her housekeeper's daughter. However, Santana should have been a Latinx version of Alexis Colby, (regal, snobby, and always on the come up for a richer husband).
  6. If we've learned one thing about Denise Richards it is that she has an exaggerated need for privacy which why I question Brandi's story about her initiating their first kiss in a restaurant bathroom. Given the other woman's responses, it was not common knowledge that Brandi identifies as bisexual, Brandi was admittedly drunk, and they were among friends. So, not only could their tete-a-tete have been witnessed by others in the bathroom, Denise also had no idea how Brandi would have respond, or if she would immediately tell their mutual friend. Thus, the story strains credulity.
  7. The thing that I don't get about Camille is that she is amusingly self-effacing in her 1:1 sessions (remember her humor about having multiple nannies in S1?) and then she is so haughty with the ladies. Also, from DeeDee, (the makeup lady), to Kimber, (the water pourer?), it makes no sense why she takes her hired helpers to social events. One doubts that the great hostesses of society past brought their paid staff to mingle with other upper crusters.
  8. It seems to me that Dorinda's social media posts about Colin Cowie's party planning is the same thing as Ramona asking for pictures in exchange for Larry Scott's party planning. Both required the wives to drive an hour for a PR stunt in service of a free party (with candy in large glass jars at both sites).
  9. Yes, Linden House - what was the etymology of its name?
  10. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think of Erica having an animus toward Donna which may have also kept her out of Palmer's circle for awhile. Also, did Erica's return to Pine Valley coincide with the publication of her first autobiography? I recall a failed appearance at a parade around the time of her return and that she lived with Mona during that period (maybe due to the death of Dr. Tyler?), immediately prior to her relationship with Adam. Did she buy her house after her divorce from Adam and prior to her marriage to Travis? And can anyone recall the name of Erica's house? Finally, was Nina's later friendship/bridesmaidhood with Erica due to Nina's relationship with Matt Connolly who was close with Jeremy?
  11. I think Cassie is a flawed idea given that Minx had switched Brick and Channing at birth, which established Minx as a serial baby concealer. The suggestion that Minx allowed her daughter to be raised at an orphanage (with boys who made regular visits to the Capwells) while years earlier she couldn't bare the thought of her grandson being raised in the Capwell mansion, (right next door), strained logical reasoning. As for storyline potential, the Lockridge estate was always on the brink of foreclosure due to a lack of new income, so Cassie was not immediately wealthy when she came into the family. There was no conflict with Lionel feeling betrayed by having a long lost sibling. There was no discussion of finding Cassie's father. The Angela/Warren coupling was not worth complicating. Cassie and her Musketeers played with Mason as children which would have made her years older than Warren. Finally, the exposition about her birth required the written contortions of both Minx's de-Sorasing and the retcon that Warren was not a Lockridge, (two soap tropes that are not usually appreciated by soaps fans), indicating that Laken was the only child in the family who was actually raised by her biological parents. If the Lockridges fed their only legitimate child her pet pidgin, perhaps Cassie should have been more grateful to those nuns...
  12. My memory is that had more to do with Erica's friendship with Opal, as opposed to being "close" with Palmer.
  13. It's an interesting issue. Around the time of Nina Courtland's first wedding, Phoebe English (I forget if that was her maiden name or if Brooke was her maternal niece) Tyler Matthews Wallingford had banned Erica from most social events due to her mother Mona's relationship with Phoebe's ex-husband Dr. Charles Tyler. Erica was explicitly banned from the country club, nor was she welcome in the yacht club. This was one of Erica's motivations for moving to New York that summer, because her prospects in Pine Valley were sparse. Phoebe, (who was Palmer's next door neighbor), also expressed that she would not attend Nina's wedding if Erica was invited. However, perhaps due to her association with the Kingsleys and the Bogarts, Palmer relented and Erica attended the wedding. Years later the animus between Erica and Phoebe was mostly forgotten and the relationship with Palmer was always cordial but never close; maybe because she never got involved with any of his relatives.
  14. RHOBH - Real question: When the ladies say that they want to "get past" an issue, what do they mean? BTW, this post does not indicate that I condone the behavior of her husband in any way, I just don't know how the woman would measure a resolution beyond simply submitting to their point of view.
  15. Can we talk about the weirdness that was Kristen's party set up by Ridge and Eric for her to meet the "top bachelors" in LA? 1. The Bachelorette owes everything to this episode, from the introductions of the men in tuxedos, to the fact that everyone is casual about this being a 10:1 group date, to the various guys attempts at trying to get "alone time" with Kristen. 2. B&B's odd incestous tone continues, Kristen is in a room of ten single men but chooses to have the first dance with her brother, then Stephanie comes by the pool filled with guys in speedos but she only has eyes for her son, and finally Ridge stares longingly at his sister when she comes into the party (meanwhile, I still contend that Thorne was always cuter and came with less baggage). 3. The dancing would have been campy even in 1988. Styles range from a waltz, to a couple of guys doing the Russian squat dance, to an 80's era slamdance, all culminating in a group dance to an elevator music cover of Janet Jackson's Control. 4. Ridge has speedos brought in for all the guys on a silver platter ("one size fits all"), but poor Storm chooses to wear some baggy briefs. 5. Some of the guys mention on how well Ridge is doing professionally, but nobody comments on the fact that he, and his grown siblings, are all still living in their parent's home. 6. The truly bizarre juxtaposition of having scenes of Kristen's party happening in the same episode that Caroline is dealing with her sexual assault and Donna is about to be exploited by a photographer (maybe Kristen was single because all guys in LA were either unattainable professionals or sexual predators).
  16. So, now that I've found the B&B vault can someone tell me the episode number(s) or date(s) of Kristen's top bachelor in LA toga party when Ridge and her father tried to find her a date? I've seen the pictures and read the articles and now I feel as if I am ready to see the actual episode.
  17. I think the Zoom confessionals are an interesting choice and they add some intimacy to the interactions (especially when Avery zoom bombed her mother talking about Elyse). But, much like every Zoom call that I am on IRL, I wish they would wear earbuds to reduce the ambient sound.
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  19. Agreed, but listening to the lyrics, they don't make any sense. The juxtaposition of the idea that "there's always tomorrow" doesn't fit with the concept that the we "only have one life to live." To me, the idea that we only have one life indicates that we should seize the day, make this moment count and, make the most of the time we have. It does not mean that if this day sucks (or the rain won't end) we should wait until tomorrow for it to get better. Here's where you go When it looks like the rain won't end (Where is he suggesting we go? Lllandview? Asa's house? Llandfair?) and then in the second verse (which we only heard on days with extended end credits) he changes the entire meaning of the song Let's live today And find someone to share it with Cause we only have one life to live Maybe it is just the pandemic, but in hindsight, Peabo lacks logical consistency.
  20. Through a 2020 lens, the casting of Connor Oilvera, (the son of El Patron who was facing deportation), is as anachronistically amusing as his appropriation of new jack swing music. Unlike All I Need, Lady in Red, or (Think of) Laura, Connor's lyrics have no association what so ever with the love story of Anna and Robert. Now That You're Here? Anna and Robert spent years around each other while pursuing other lovers, (and were never written as each other's destiny), so it is not like they just found each other. A more appropriate title would have been Now That We've Exhausted All Other Options (including the alien in my garage and your virgin pianist girlfriend). But, I guess, that's harder to dance to. I'm also amused by the rehearsal dinner scene where Mac had founded a jazz club for live music, but the performers lip synced to video backing footage, very 90's cabaret... Lastly, can we talk about the insta-wealth that all GH characters achieved in 1991? Mac went from an environmental activist to a jazz club owner. A family inheritance caused Bill Eckart to go from a dockworker to buying that gorgeous lighthouse. And his sister Jenny (who for some reason did not benefit from that wealthy dead relative) went from student nurse housing to the Quatermaine mansion! Gloria Monty gave up all pretenses of relatability as soon as those ratings drooped.
  21. After commenting on the 1991 SOD thread I researched Connor Olivera and came up with this old thread: What ended up being Connor's storyline? according to, http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/7967/mlynch.html "His character was a singer at TheOutback, and he was pals with Mac. He also used to teach Robin dance moves. He had a crush on Dominique, but she was hung up on Mac, and ended up marrying Scotty. Connor found out that Sean Donnely is his biological father. Connor left PC to further his music career." Sean Donnelly's son? Did he go to the wedding with Tiffany? How long was he on the show? The actor and his song styling did not age well, but the idea of an expanded Donnelly family tree is intriguing. If anyone has any additional information on this character I would appreciate it.
  22. I appreciate that I'm not the only one who searches for New Day in Eden videos on a regular basis
  23. Andy Cohen mentioned on his radio show that RHONY and RHOBH are subject to delays due to editors who had been unable to complete episodes prior to the shelter in place orders. RHOBH specifically had only finished shooting 3-4 weeks before the lockdown orders were in place. Understandably, the editorial process is difficult to achieve while working from home. Just think about the brilliance of the story editors on both show who are able to interweave flashbacks, music, and hours of footage to create a story. That requires people to log every minute of footage and maintain a database of multiple seasons of filming. These shows film for eight hours a day, five days a week, for months in order to get a cohesive plotline that lasts for 20-22 episodes. Which means someone has to sift through at least 40 hours of footage to achieve a 40 minute weekly episode, or one hour of filming for every one minute of an episode. I was compelled to mention this because I read a comment on Facebook suggesting that the shows were re-tooling to edit out insensitive material; much like RuPaul's Drag Race had done with season 12. However, the obvious difference is that Drag Race was filmed and edited a year ago, so it was achievable to be able to go back and cut out a character and substitute other talking interviews. RHONY and RHOBH stopped filming in January and February respectively, so it would be impossible to back and try to change plotlines. The Bravo shows are simply trying to keep up with current production demands and any conspiracy theories about their motives seem ill-informed.
  24. Thank you for this detail But, it still doesn't fit with the character of Alex that we saw within the plotline of the show. Alex was an upstanding citizen, he fought crime, and younger men, like Tony and Trucker, looked to him for moral guidance. So, what made him become a con artist for those few years? Also, I know the Forbes disappeared after the first years of show, but was the mansion always the Alden's? Or did Roger and Ann live in a different mansion than Cabot and Isabelle? Weren't the Forbes also rich on their own, given the facts of the pilot?
  25. OMG, I totally forgot that Roscoe and Randall were married until I read it in the 1991 SOD on that thread.

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