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That's the truth. In the 80's most of the soaps swept any prior history under the rug when it no longer fit the current storylines. Bill Bell got rid of the Brooks & Fosters on Y&R and rebooted the show as if the first decade never happened. AW wiped out most of the Matthews family. ATWT the Stewarts were sidelined except for Emily & Betsy. Susan was brought back, but her storylines really got going again around 1990 with her affair with Bob. Even night time soaps did that. Look at how much story and characters Dallas, Knots, Dynasty etc... burned through in those early years never to be referenced to again.

The actress subbing for Lila is Lee Bryant. I think she subbed for her again later on. Bryant is best known for the Airplane moves as the hysterical woman getting slapped " I gotta get outta of here " SLAP !!!.......Another gag in the film was the line " Jim never asks for a second cup of coffee at home" She had played a wife in a Yuban coffee commercial that was parodied many times because of that line. Bryant also played William Shatners ex wife on T.J. Hooker.

John Conboy(There's hardwood under that rug). Thanks for finding that and sharing.

And the sideburns. All he needed was the stache. 🤣

Thanks ! Very little of Steve and Carol together has surfaced.

Trudy should have came back when Meta was brought back and re-ignite the sister feud. Rosemary Prinz may have been a good Trudy. She is 5 years younger than Mary Stuart.

Trudy not wanting children could have been used in so many different ways. People telling her they envied her decision not to have children, but she feels guilt because she did have a child in the 50's she gave up for adoption. It would also be a scandal if the baby's father were revealed. She had a Oops baby with her husband. As the child grew up they had a stormy relationship with her because she really didn't want to be a Mother, sent them to boarding school etc... She had a child (her only one) and she became obsessed and over protective of and tried to run their life. She also disapproved of any relationship they had and tried to interfere thinking she knew best.

Great news !!!

I never really cared for O'Leary. There always something smug about him. I always felt another actor should have been cast as Rick. I agree that Trudy Bauer would have been a great character to return. I wonder if Sada Thompson would have made a good casting choice ? Or cast Sada as Bert's sister. I read Bert had a sister Alma, but was she mentioned as deceased ?

Brad was in Friday The 13th so he was right at home....LOL

When I watched that blurry 1972 episode several years ago, I thought that was Jane House playing Liz. If she was fired or quit in 1971, that was her replacement I saw. There is no telling what Obsolete Video has in his collection of soaps. He has posted a few episodes and shown opening/closings in channel surfing videos. Archives and celebrity estates are sending all their stuff to him by the truck load. What annoys me is he rarely shares anything and mostly post videos about his studio, a project he is working on, or the equipment he has acquired/restored. He needs to start selling copies/making available the footage he has to help fund his projects. He could set up a streaming service where he charges a small fee for access. Wow ! That Melinda death scene was pretty gruesome. That is proof that written synopsis never do the actual scenes justice. I remember reading years ago the summary of Y&R's Lorie confronting Leslie about her pregnancy. It sounded like she just stood there with a smirk on her face questioning her. When I actually saw the scene. Lorie went totally ape $*#! and backed her into the corner. I thought she was going to start beating her and Lucas comes in and all but puts her in a headlock.

🤣 I saw those 1972 episodes too. They appear to be a B&W kinescope or recorded on a early video recorder. Obsolete Video talks about early home video formats and has those machines in his studio. I bet he is sitting on some great soap material. UCLA lists early 70's ATWT & AW episodes in their catalog, but state they do not have the equipment to view them. Someone needs to point them in the direction of this guy to digitize them before they turn to dust. Thanks for the info. I wonder if she has any copies of her ATWT work ? The website is https://www.soapdvds.com/product-page/as-the-world-turns-the-digital-collection The episode is listed as October 9, 1970.

LOL that is a doozy. I saw a young guy with one recently grown out thick and oversized to look like a walrus. Hipsters, douchebags, and comedians have ruined a lot of trends trying to be ironic. Some guys have a face made for a mustache (Sam Elliott, Tom Selleck, John Beck, Burt Reynolds, Eric Braeden etc...It can take faces that are a 2 to a 10. Re: Jane House 1971 article. It seems she doesn't have many credits at the IMDb. They stop around 1979. She may have continued doing stage work after her TV/film work. She say's that she was making good money doing ATWT. II wonder in the end did she feel she made the right decision in taking the play sacrificing a steady gig ? Irna killed the character off anyway after she fired House. I was looking online at a site that sells ATWT episodes and in their index they listed having an episode from 1970. Has that episode ever made it online ? The other pre-1979 shows listed in the index are on youtube. I would LOVE to see a color episode from 1968-1973 show up.

Yes. Demond Wilson from Sanford & Son also had one. It was a classic look for many years. Not too long ago I saw a 1971 McDonald's ad on youtube with Richard Roundtree and Marion Ramsey (from the Police Academy films). That had to be right before he did Shaft.

A couple of clips from 2 classics. Mr. Blanding's Builds His Dream House (1948): Starring Cary Grant , Myrna Loy, and Melvyn Douglas. Guess Who's Coming To Dinner (1967): Starring Spencer Tracy, Katharine Hepburn, Sidney Poitier, and Katharine Houghton. Hilary is played by actress Virginia Christine who starred as Mrs. Olson in the Folgers coffee ads for 20 years (1964-1984).

Yes, Reynolds and Selleck helped with influencing the trend. Lee Horsley, Sam Elliot, John Beck, Eric Braeden etc...are some of the others who sported the look. Most cops and firefighters also had them. If you go back and watch game shows from the 70's and 80's the vast majority of the male contestants and the guys the audience have mustaches. My Dad and just about every boomer man had one at some point. The thing is, it works for most men of that generation. They can pull it off. Now days if a guy from younger generation grows one, it's supposed to be an ironic joke. Look how many douchebag comedians ( Will Ferrell, Jason Sudeikis etc...) when trying to do a off the wall character they will grow a stache and thinks it screams " look at me, I'm funny because I grew a Dad/Pornstache. 🙄 An example of a male contestant on the Price Is Right circa 1980. He is also a firefighter.

It seems like the writers just made stuff up as they went along with no real plan how to flesh out the character. His look was very typical of the 70's and 80's with the long hair and mustache. Mustaches were very trendy back then with the baby boomer men like todays generation of men growing beards. Mustaches will be back when they are no longer considered a joke.

It's a shame they killed Melinda off. Like I said before writers back in the day had "killing off" on the brain when writing out characters they no longer had an immediate use for or grew tired of. Rick Ryan really should have been brought back at some point. I could picture someone like Gregory Harrison in the role of NuRick or cast him as Chuck Shea back from the dead.

I'm glad they got rid of Brad and was surprised he lasted 2 years. The character and actor were a dud from day 1 and got progressively worse. To be honest I was not impressed with Lisa Loring as Cricket. She was never brought back and I don't think Cricket was ever mentioned in later years. Diane Franklin may have pulled off Cricket if she had ben cast in that part instead of Lois. Suzanne Davidson was good as a young Betsy. She kind of gives off Tatum O'Neal vibes. I liked Meg Ryan, but she kind of played Betsy as a ditz. Frost was good and reminded me a bit of Lindsay Wagner.

When did Kim and Lisa develop the close friendship they had for most of the shows run ? I gather in Kim's early days Lisa gave her a hard time and did not want her anywhere near Bob. What kind of relationship did Lisa have with Jennifer ?

They probably thought since he looked like John Holmes the women at home would be all over that.