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This is honestly a weird view because of the extenuating circumstances. I have found the ratings for all the soaps during this pandemic pretty awful. People are FORCED to stay home. Nobody is working, stay at home orders are in place in almost every state but a few - and even when soaps were showing new episodes ratings were down from the previous year. Meanwhile, cheaper to produce talk shows are able to provide new content during the entire pandemic and a lot of them are seeing better ratings than they have in years. I get being optimistic, but when people actually go back to work and things are back to normal, what is the expectation for soap viewership? People were shut in and forced to stay home and still not watching soaps in signigicantly large or increased numbers.

Honestly, they could have kept this episode. It's nice seeing Victoria Rowell and Jeanne but....

I was about to complain cause I could do without seeing stuff from 2004 but its much better than what B&B and GH are doing.

Thanks. Also looking at these clips and I remember how much I hated how much storylines cenetered around Rick and Bridget. It was overkill. I think if you're going to focus that much on childcharacters - the really young ones - the actors need to be really strong (a la Hayden Panettiere as Lizzie on GL)

Thanks for the link to the 1996 and 1997 German episodes. I really hope they do1999 and 2000 because those years are nearly impossible to find. Also, watching this episode and WOW, Hunter leaving for Melrose seemed to have them scrambling to change the story (and Grant's intro was messy as hell - making out with Taylor, dating Michael, sleeping with Sheila - so odd). I read the show knew for a while that Hunter was fielding other offers and she was likely to leave - I can't fathom why they went so far with Grant/Taylor only to have her leave the next two weeks if they were given notice from Hunter. I would really like to know what the plan would have been had she stayed. I don't think any of the arc would have happened with Ridge and Grant becoming friends and Grant and Brooke starting an emotional (and physical though they didn't have sex) affair behind his back. It's clear they just pivoted to Brooke after Hunter left.

They have shown this episode sooo many times.

Well guys apparently the Canadian episode that aired today (they are a day ahead of the US) was an episode from 6 weeks ago. So there seems to be some questions about whether or not a classic episode is actually airing tomorrow

I am meh on that episode personally. It was a lot of Phyllis and Tim hijinx when they followed them to the Caribbean

The first episode supposedly airs Friday and it's an episode from 1991

Yeah I found that channel but it is missing the episode where they actually sleep together

Does anyone know where I can find the February 2, 1987 episode? It's the episode where Jake and Lucy have an ONS. I have been looking for the actual scene everywhere, I'm still very confused as to how it happened. I know he was defending her when everyone felt she was a murderer but still the ONS seemed to come out of absolutely nowhere.

I tried to watch these after watching the older stuff and I just can't. It's all so damn terrible. I have been rewatching the Morgan storyline since it's being uploaded and Sarah Buxton was better than I remember. The story was nonsense though and insulting to the viewers intelligence - an email? He got an email from his wife telling him to sleep with someone else and he goes OK SURE! While Ronn IS Ridge, I really felt bad for his co-stars sometimes. It really had to be like acting opposite a brick wall. Everyone else always had to do all of the heavy lifting: Not sure how but I kind of think they should have found a way to keep Buxton around. Also Morgan "killing" Taylor would have made more sense than Sheila doing it 2002

I was watching old episodes and I didn't remember this Tony and Lucy scene - it was jarring seeing him be this rough with her and it become borderline violent: I also found the conversation they had the next day fascinating (Lynn Herring's vulnerability here is just great, rarely did we see that from Lucy and they never said much about her childhood prior to this I don't believe)

Why are full episodes from 1995 -1999 so hard to find? Was something happening during that time? It's the same way for Y&R. I feel like finding full episodes from those years is incredibly difficult (I feel like I have been looking for the episodes where Veronica/Sarah shot Nikki for YEARS)

Randomly, I totally forgot that Grant Chambers first episode was him making out with Taylor until someone in the comment section of a YouTube video mentioned it. Was the original plan to put him with Taylor (before Hunter told them she was leaving for Melrose)? They never did anything with their connection and history did they? Episode isn't in English, but you can still hear the dialogue pretty well underneath it

Lol, there is a VERY noticeable print at the end of the scene. I found it kind of jarring

Randomly looking at B&B episodes to see what classic stuff is still on You Tube and came across this clip. I can't believe they had Kyle Lowder just flopping around like that (though I guess that might be why they quickly cut out of that scene). If you go to 6:18 in this video when he jumps on the bed you'll see what I mean

I actually liked Grant's character too though his story was changed more times than I could count. He originally came on as an old high school boyfriend of Taylor's, I think their first scenes were them making out but almost immediately after that Hunter officially informed them she was leaving for Melrose and they quickly shifted to a Grant/Brooke/Ridge triangle. But I will say that I was glad, and whomever made the decision (Bill or Brad) was correct, that 1998 pretty much killed the Brooke/Ridge/Taylor triangle for several years (until Hunter had contract issues with the show again). After the merry go round of 1997 it was time to settle those characters and play something else. Of course that led to Brooke/Thorne and Brooke/Decaon and while I enjoyed Kanan on the show, Deacon took a lot of characters in directions they couldn't really recover from IMO. I think Brad Bell is honestly a bad writer and without his father overseeing things became outright atrocious but the most frustrating thing about him was the waste and stupid rotation of great characters. Characters would come in, stay for a year or two and inevitably be killed off - even if the character was working.

It was weird. Taylor and Ridge were very obviously Bill Bell's favorite and his preferred couple. But Hunter was so back and forth with the show from 1994-1996 that the writing felt very sporadic. Hunter would leave, and they would slap Brooke and Ridge back together and then Hunter would return and they'd very swiftly go back to Taylor and Ridge. Taylor accepting this proposal made very little sense. She and Ridge had little interaction leading up to this because Hunter had just returned to the show and was pregnant so wasn't taping as much. It was like they rushed a Taylor and Ridge reunion cause they weren't sure if Hunter was going to stick around (an understandable concern during that time but still.....) I disagree on 1997-1998 though, I loved that whole Who Shot Grant, Taylor claims Thomas is Thorne's and Brooke fakes a pregnancy/miscarriage mess. Bold was a bit of a mess in 1995 and 1996 but got back on track in 1997 IMO.

Ronn Moss said something to the effect of Susan wanted to leave since like 2004 at some event. KKL is never going to leave but everyone else from that generation seemed to be pretty over it the last decade tbh. Plus the show moved into becoming all about Liam and his harem.

Oh that's from B&B, the terrible years. I have to say, Flannery is Flannery and they obviously let her do what she wanted but I kind of hated the change in Stephanie's attire and overall lack of care given to her appearance after a certain period. The clothes, the hair, all of it felt very out of character. I think again most of it was the show doing whatever it could to make Flannery happy so she wouldn't quit that crapfest earlier than she did but still.... In the same vein, they also started letting Ridge morph into Ronn Moss with all the ugly scarves and that nonsense.

Man, Susan Flannery (and this writing) is MISSED. It really baffles me that soaps can't be more creative with the storytelling. They just recycle plot points instead of digging deeper. A man and a woman married for 20 years get divorced after he leaves her for a younger woman. Stephanie is in denial and believes he's just having a midlife crisis and he will eventually come back to her. It sounds simple enough but Stephanie's POV was written very well and more compelling than anything I have seen on B&B in ages. I seesaw back and forth between feeling really sad about what has happened to soaps, just thinking they're better off being cancelled and having a small glimmer of hope that at least one writer on one show will get it or possibly turn their show around.

A lot of the Taylor, Ridge, Thorne, Brooke stuff is still up on (the main focus of the clips is Taylor and Ridge though). It's unfortunate that full episodes or stuff for other characters isn't up anywhere. Boy is it hard looking at how entertaining the show was in 1997-1998 and how it became awful rubbish by 2002-2003

Does anyone know why its so damn hard to find episodes from 1997-1999? I heard that those years did not air in a bunch of countries for some reason (like someone told me it didn't air in the UK)?

This is the first time I have ever seen this in English. Now I understand why people on Twitter call him "Ridge the rapist"