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  1. I never got a chance to contribute to this thread and I'm up so a few of my favorites Guiding Light - Vanessa reads Henry's letter. Maeve Kinkead was just brilliant. I think pound for pound, the acting on Guiding Light was consistently a cut above the rest of the soaps. Other shows had better stories, better production value, but I always felt like there was such a massive emphasis put on letting performances really breathe. Guiding Light - Reva "pushes" Annie down the stairs Annie Dutton will forever be one of my all time favorite soap villains. Cynthia was just brilliant and I was so Santa Barbara - Julia talks about her father's alcoholism IMO it's one of the best performances Nancy Lee Grahn has ever given OLTL - Kelly Confesses to Blair And there's not nearly enough Lynn Herring in this thread
  2. Hunter Tylo is basically on Twitter confirming why she won't return to B&B (seems she said she's not coming back to play a doormat or some bickering high schooler). I mean, I can't say I blame her. Why won't Brad just recast? The show is completely unrecognizable and nothing like the B&B of old anyway. Stephanie gone, Sally gone, Macy gone, Thorne recast, Taylor gone, new awful Ridge, Sheila gone, James gone, just recast and rename it 'The Logans' or some nonsense.
  3. Why are full episodes from 1995 -1999 so hard to find? Was something happening during that time? It's the same way for Y&R. I feel like finding full episodes from those years is incredibly difficult (I feel like I have been looking for the episodes where Veronica/Sarah shot Nikki for YEARS)
  4. Randomly, I totally forgot that Grant Chambers first episode was him making out with Taylor until someone in the comment section of a YouTube video mentioned it. Was the original plan to put him with Taylor (before Hunter told them she was leaving for Melrose)? They never did anything with their connection and history did they? Episode isn't in English, but you can still hear the dialogue pretty well underneath it
  5. Lol, there is a VERY noticeable print at the end of the scene. I found it kind of jarring
  6. Randomly looking at B&B episodes to see what classic stuff is still on You Tube and came across this clip. I can't believe they had Kyle Lowder just flopping around like that (though I guess that might be why they quickly cut out of that scene). If you go to 6:18 in this video when he jumps on the bed you'll see what I mean
  7. I actually liked Grant's character too though his story was changed more times than I could count. He originally came on as an old high school boyfriend of Taylor's, I think their first scenes were them making out but almost immediately after that Hunter officially informed them she was leaving for Melrose and they quickly shifted to a Grant/Brooke/Ridge triangle. But I will say that I was glad, and whomever made the decision (Bill or Brad) was correct, that 1998 pretty much killed the Brooke/Ridge/Taylor triangle for several years (until Hunter had contract issues with the show again). After the merry go round of 1997 it was time to settle those characters and play something else. Of course that led to Brooke/Thorne and Brooke/Decaon and while I enjoyed Kanan on the show, Deacon took a lot of characters in directions they couldn't really recover from IMO. I think Brad Bell is honestly a bad writer and without his father overseeing things became outright atrocious but the most frustrating thing about him was the waste and stupid rotation of great characters. Characters would come in, stay for a year or two and inevitably be killed off - even if the character was working.
  8. It was weird. Taylor and Ridge were very obviously Bill Bell's favorite and his preferred couple. But Hunter was so back and forth with the show from 1994-1996 that the writing felt very sporadic. Hunter would leave, and they would slap Brooke and Ridge back together and then Hunter would return and they'd very swiftly go back to Taylor and Ridge. Taylor accepting this proposal made very little sense. She and Ridge had little interaction leading up to this because Hunter had just returned to the show and was pregnant so wasn't taping as much. It was like they rushed a Taylor and Ridge reunion cause they weren't sure if Hunter was going to stick around (an understandable concern during that time but still.....) I disagree on 1997-1998 though, I loved that whole Who Shot Grant, Taylor claims Thomas is Thorne's and Brooke fakes a pregnancy/miscarriage mess. Bold was a bit of a mess in 1995 and 1996 but got back on track in 1997 IMO.
  9. Angelica was a mess but I know that when she was hired by Les Moonves he told her that she could cancel the soaps if she wanted to and she refused to do so.
  10. Yet here you are....talking and posting about soaps 😂😂
  11. You seem very personally hurt by the fact that Hunter does not want to return and way too into her personal finances. Weird. 😂😂
  12. Ronn Moss said something to the effect of Susan wanted to leave since like 2004 at some event. KKL is never going to leave but everyone else from that generation seemed to be pretty over it the last decade tbh. Plus the show moved into becoming all about Liam and his harem.
  13. Oh that's from B&B, the terrible years. I have to say, Flannery is Flannery and they obviously let her do what she wanted but I kind of hated the change in Stephanie's attire and overall lack of care given to her appearance after a certain period. The clothes, the hair, all of it felt very out of character. I think again most of it was the show doing whatever it could to make Flannery happy so she wouldn't quit that crapfest earlier than she did but still.... In the same vein, they also started letting Ridge morph into Ronn Moss with all the ugly scarves and that nonsense.
  14. Man, Susan Flannery (and this writing) is MISSED. It really baffles me that soaps can't be more creative with the storytelling. They just recycle plot points instead of digging deeper. A man and a woman married for 20 years get divorced after he leaves her for a younger woman. Stephanie is in denial and believes he's just having a midlife crisis and he will eventually come back to her. It sounds simple enough but Stephanie's POV was written very well and more compelling than anything I have seen on B&B in ages. I seesaw back and forth between feeling really sad about what has happened to soaps, just thinking they're better off being cancelled and having a small glimmer of hope that at least one writer on one show will get it or possibly turn their show around.
  15. Hunter has been a mess the last decade or so but honestly, what is the purpose of a recast Taylor? Because recast Ridge and recast Thorne have been so successful? So she can return and battle KKL over some flop Ridge that nobody gives a damn about? Or because they need someone to yammer on to Steffi about how she and Liam are meant to be? Recast with whoever you want, the writing isn't going to change and the show still sucks (which is likely why HT doesn't want to return in the first place).
  16. Same tbh. I really think those two shows saw the sharpest declines in quality around the early and mid 00's and it felt so drastic. Other shows had already cycled through various writers and regimes - people with different visions for the show - but the Bell soaps had such a clear and steady creative vision for such a long time under Bill. When that changed you immediately felt it. Like you spent 15-20 years eating filet mignon at the best restaurant in town and then all of a sudden you go to that same restaurant and someone is trying to shove spam down your throat.
  17. Yep all the time. Y&R - It ebbs and flows. There is a lot of nonsensical crap that happened on that show after 2005 that I just flat out ignore. B&B - I don't pay attention to anything that happened after 2001/2002. Once Bill Bell got sick and was no longer involved in the show, the show went to hell. It was an obvious and rapid decline. I'm not really concerned about any plot points that happened after that. I just kind of pretend it was cancelled after Sheila went to jail. Shrugs. GL - Was the show still on the air after 2007? I like to pretend it wasn't. I also don't acknowledge any of the San Cristohell mess
  18. Further ruins? Brad Bell has been destroying all these characters for 15 years. There is very little value in being the last person on a sinking ship. I know some soap fans really believe in the "band was playing as the ship went down" mantra like there is some reward for being on a show when it is cancelled but I kind of believe at this point that people should gtf off the boat when you see its tanking (meaning she probably should have never agreed to return after she quit in 2002 since she has acknowledged that the show has stunk since 2001). This really applies to all vets on all the soaps now. There is very little value in returning to soaps in 2019 unless you need money - its gauranteed the quality of the material will be terrible lets be honest.
  19. Honestly why would any of the old crew want to return to this show? For what? Unless they really REALLY need a check I would not look twice at B&B. I am shocked that McCook is still there.
  20. Heard a few people say Hunter has no plans nor desire to return (and they have asked). Not sure what happened or if she is just sick of the show.
  21. A lot of the Taylor, Ridge, Thorne, Brooke stuff is still up on (the main focus of the clips is Taylor and Ridge though). It's unfortunate that full episodes or stuff for other characters isn't up anywhere. Boy is it hard looking at how entertaining the show was in 1997-1998 and how it became awful rubbish by 2002-2003
  22. Does anyone know why its so damn hard to find episodes from 1997-1999? I heard that those years did not air in a bunch of countries for some reason (like someone told me it didn't air in the UK)?
  23. I really think she only returns to collect a check and doesn't really care anymore. She drags the writing on the show A LOT on Twitter lol.
  24. On Twitter a week or two ago Hunter basically said something like the show has been nonsensical crap since 2001 so I doubt she is pressed to come back unless she gets bored and feels like getting a recurring check or something.
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