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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Why are full episodes from 1995 -1999 so hard to find? Was something happening during that time? It's the same way for Y&R. I feel like finding full episodes from those years is incredibly difficult (I feel like I have been looking for the episodes where Veronica/Sarah shot Nikki for YEARS)
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Randomly, I totally forgot that Grant Chambers first episode was him making out with Taylor until someone in the comment section of a YouTube video mentioned it. Was the original plan to put him with Taylor (before Hunter told them she was leaving for Melrose)? They never did anything with their connection and history did they? Episode isn't in English, but you can still hear the dialogue pretty well underneath it
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Randomly looking at B&B episodes to see what classic stuff is still on You Tube and came across this clip. I can't believe they had Kyle Lowder just flopping around like that (though I guess that might be why they quickly cut out of that scene). If you go to 6:18 in this video when he jumps on the bed you'll see what I mean
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
I actually liked Grant's character too though his story was changed more times than I could count. He originally came on as an old high school boyfriend of Taylor's, I think their first scenes were them making out but almost immediately after that Hunter officially informed them she was leaving for Melrose and they quickly shifted to a Grant/Brooke/Ridge triangle. But I will say that I was glad, and whomever made the decision (Bill or Brad) was correct, that 1998 pretty much killed the Brooke/Ridge/Taylor triangle for several years (until Hunter had contract issues with the show again). After the merry go round of 1997 it was time to settle those characters and play something else. Of course that led to Brooke/Thorne and Brooke/Decaon and while I enjoyed Kanan on the show, Deacon took a lot of characters in directions they couldn't really recover from IMO. I think Brad Bell is honestly a bad writer and without his father overseeing things became outright atrocious but the most frustrating thing about him was the waste and stupid rotation of great characters. Characters would come in, stay for a year or two and inevitably be killed off - even if the character was working.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
It was weird. Taylor and Ridge were very obviously Bill Bell's favorite and his preferred couple. But Hunter was so back and forth with the show from 1994-1996 that the writing felt very sporadic. Hunter would leave, and they would slap Brooke and Ridge back together and then Hunter would return and they'd very swiftly go back to Taylor and Ridge. Taylor accepting this proposal made very little sense. She and Ridge had little interaction leading up to this because Hunter had just returned to the show and was pregnant so wasn't taping as much. It was like they rushed a Taylor and Ridge reunion cause they weren't sure if Hunter was going to stick around (an understandable concern during that time but still.....) I disagree on 1997-1998 though, I loved that whole Who Shot Grant, Taylor claims Thomas is Thorne's and Brooke fakes a pregnancy/miscarriage mess. Bold was a bit of a mess in 1995 and 1996 but got back on track in 1997 IMO.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Oh that's from B&B, the terrible years. I have to say, Flannery is Flannery and they obviously let her do what she wanted but I kind of hated the change in Stephanie's attire and overall lack of care given to her appearance after a certain period. The clothes, the hair, all of it felt very out of character. I think again most of it was the show doing whatever it could to make Flannery happy so she wouldn't quit that crapfest earlier than she did but still.... In the same vein, they also started letting Ridge morph into Ronn Moss with all the ugly scarves and that nonsense.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Man, Susan Flannery (and this writing) is MISSED. It really baffles me that soaps can't be more creative with the storytelling. They just recycle plot points instead of digging deeper. A man and a woman married for 20 years get divorced after he leaves her for a younger woman. Stephanie is in denial and believes he's just having a midlife crisis and he will eventually come back to her. It sounds simple enough but Stephanie's POV was written very well and more compelling than anything I have seen on B&B in ages. I seesaw back and forth between feeling really sad about what has happened to soaps, just thinking they're better off being cancelled and having a small glimmer of hope that at least one writer on one show will get it or possibly turn their show around.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
A lot of the Taylor, Ridge, Thorne, Brooke stuff is still up on (the main focus of the clips is Taylor and Ridge though). It's unfortunate that full episodes or stuff for other characters isn't up anywhere. Boy is it hard looking at how entertaining the show was in 1997-1998 and how it became awful rubbish by 2002-2003
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His career post-ATWT has been so impressive. Super happy for him!
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
I thought it was just a temporary thing too but the way it was paced felt VERY rushed when you look back at the clips. It's funny because I was thinking of how the Taylor/Morocco story would play today. I know they were capitalizing off the fact that Hunter had just done some movies in India where I believe she played a princess with Kabir (who played Prince Omar) and Hunter is like half Native American (I think) so I guess they thought that made it ok - but still they really tried it with some of that story and it would never fly today
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Technically but I think Bill Bell was still HEAVILY involved in the writing as he was the sole Executive Producer up until 1996. He did an Emmy TV legends interview in 1998 and it seemed pretty obvious he was still involved in both Y&R and B&B pretty heavily then. Kay Alden said he still oversaw both (read scripts, etc) up until a few years before he passed. I do think 2002 was the last tolerable or somewhat good year of the show.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
There have been a lot of Taylor and Ridge clips from the 90's uploaded I've found And now someone is putting up a ton of old Hunter Tylo as Taylor episodes (hope this channel doesn't get taken down they have a lot of stuff I hadn't seen). It looks like a good portion of her scenes from 1993 and 1994 are being put up by this person: Watching these, did the show know in advance that Hunter was leaving in 1994? I know she took a "hiatus" to do some films in India, but how much notice did the show have? The way they had her trapped in Big Bear with James and almost die there only to then "actually die" in a plane crash a week later was VERY weird pacing. And did Bill Bell ever plan to have Ridge find out about Taylor and James (I know Bradley Bell had it come out in some stupid nonsensical plot point in 2004)?
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Y&R: Old Articles
Has this been posted before? It's a two hour conversation with Kay Alden about how she started on Y&R, learning under Bill Bell, the Y&R writing process, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecE4od4nI_A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ao9SWOUm-o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI65ZZVhfVQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxGng_CU34