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I wouldn't have a problem w9th RHOC being an island..because most of season 3 of RHONY had two islands with Jill and friends on one island..and Bethenny and friends on the other island..and it was one of their best seasons ever. The difference was that jill/Luann were friends....and ramona/Alex were friends. I can't believe she by she ree has been revived.... http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV10HtKZZEpEAsydx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTE0dWVpZWM2BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDVUkyRkJUM18xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1504126088/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fthejasminebrand.com%2f2017%2f08%2f25%2fsheree-whitfields-sheree-t-shirt-line-nordstrom%2f/RK=1/RS=P.Gbi5NShjLke78gEOy2qn3TXlo-

Ever since Audrey did her dance at the start of season 1, I've always wondered if she was connected to the spirit world...not that she's a spirit..but has a connection with it. Glad to see she does...im just wondering if she's in a coma..or if she is also on a journey to get back to Twin Peaks as well?

a preview of tonights RHOC...i so can tell Peggy and Tamra will be life long friends after this lol http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-12/episode-8/videos/is-tamra-going-to-give-peggy-a

Wow...where did this Brooke go? Im getting more and more why the original Donna quit...all she became in the last year of her stint was a talk to for brooke.

I agree that Andy adores Shannon...in fact, he seems display genuine concern for her during her WWHL visits. Vicki seems a nightmare behind the scenes....and I think the show would be fine if she left. The show might get a new leash on life if she left. Almost everyone I know hates Vicki..and message board comments are just over her. DALLAS I like the new housewife dandria...her mom's inability to adapt will cause the company to go under...maybe as a way to ensure her daughter d oesnt inherit it? RHONY Wow on Tinsley not voting...but I give her props for admitting it...moreso then Ramona, s onja or luann pleading the 5th.

Margo stays around till mid 1992. She has a story arc coming up with her brother Jake, her family, then has a brief flirtation with Taylor's ex husband before she leaves.

Someone posted on a different board that Andy Cohen kept Vicki on the show after season 10 to redeem her and see if she could win back favors with the others. I could see his reasoning but after she again blew it in season 11...he should have cut ties with Vicki. If he and the show fired Gretchen for making up the proposal and not owning her part in things then certainly Vicki should be fired (im not even a fan of Gretchen, but I can see the double standard at work).

I think over time she found out...felt humiliated and didn't want to admit she was wrong. I think the show is veering into Lake Bass territory And the only resolution will be to clean house for season 13...and I think it's time Vicki needs to take a break.

It says a lot that Ed and Norma had the epic longing love story that hopefully will end happily...but considering the twist at the end of season 2 where their future was up in the air...we still have three episodes to go. Gersten hayward, there was talk by fans when the original show aired that she had a link to the darker forces in Twin Peaks...eith her playing the piano during a haunting closing credit. I do wonder what happened to her sisters Donna and Harriet. It's ironic that Shelly was in An abusive marriage and she managed to break free thanks to Bobby..and Leo getting shot and eventually dying (we assume)...yet her daughter Becky ends up in an abusive marriage and might not be as lucky. Sins of the parents are repeated by the children. I still think it's glaring that Annie hasn't been mentioned except in episode 7 in the missing diary pages. How odd that a last minute character with No plan except as a fill in for Audrey has left a hole in the show. My theory is maybe she is like Dawn from Buffy the vampire slayer...someone that can appear and no one realizes she appeared from out of thin air...and can vanish as if she never existed.

If she hadn't starred on Santa Barbara, she wouldnt have gotten the part in The princess Bride. Sometimes the snobbery of some actor astounds me.

I recall lilibet quit just before the patty shooting Jack event. I often wonder if Patty would have last longer beyong late 1984 if she had stayed in the role.

A little too toxic...maybe Danielle had nothing to give but drama hence why she is just a friend. Brandi on BH should have always stayed a friend since she xouldnt offer anything but drama.

From watching YouTube's from 1981 to 1989...id have to say the following.. love Angie/Jesse. Greg/Jenny were kind of boring hence why Lisa then Amanda were used as onterlopera...cause on their own..the couple was boring. The anticipation of them getting together outweighed the actual coupling. The fact she was killed a few months after they finally got together is partly why they are so memorable. Had she lived...i have no doubt they would have either left town or broken up. Loved Dottie...loved her early friendship with Jesse...even loved her whimsical mother Edna. I did think she and Tad were a true couple...thiugh I did like that she eventually worked for Erica and became buddies/roommates with Greg before briefly dating Andrew. She left for greener pastures...nowadays she would have gone crazy and tried to kill Hilary or kidnap Tad...she loved Tad but realized he didn't love her in that way and broke free to find herself. Hilary...is it weird I liked her better once she and Tad broke up...and she and Skye were rivals at work and over Mitch? A shame she left just before Tad came back...wpuld have been interesting to see if tad/dixie would have happened if the actress playing Hilary hadn't left. I liked how Eric was isolated from the canvas from 1981 to 1984 before her marriage to Adam Chandler reconnected her to the canvas till 1986 when her adventures with Jeremy/Natalie isolated her again till 1988/89. In the 1990s, she was more integrated with the canvas. On y and r...that type of isolation wad the norm..but AMC was more about the cimmunity..smaller town...more close knit..where pine valley was just as much of a character.

Stephanie to really like the toilet..maybe he doesn't satisfy down under

I do think New York needs a slight revamp...the question is how to tweak it without it turning into season 5(which turned out to be my favorite season of NY...some drama, some individual scenes...and loved the new girls reactions to Ramona...heather eith the grinning, carole trying to use logic and Aviva just losing it after toleratimg Ramona/Sonja for over half the season lol) OC needs a revamp for season 13...no previous housewives coming back as full time (Bethenny, Dina and Lydia proving that sometimes you c Ant go back). I think Kelly will need to go because anyone can cause drama...vicki is actually funny in her family scenes (sadly that was what made Vicki fun..her family scenes and her spastic talking heads)..and Shannon is oddly fascinating in her individual scenes (by herself or with her girls...not with her husband). Meghan and Lydia seem to serve the same function...and Peggy..jury is out. Tamra has enough material on her own or with family that she doesn't have to cause too much drama anymore. Still Gretchen got fired cause she made up stuff for a story and refused to say sorry (not that I like her..but at least she was honest that she wasn't sorry)...yet Vicki remains due to her dubious role in Brooks cancer scam because she said sorry even though she didn't mean it and hasn't changed the behavior. I will say T amra has changed her behavior with Shannon to an extent. I am also one of those people that believe she is trying to change...but she still has to pay the price for the years she was a troublemaker..karma and all BH...is R inna really more toxic then Brandi?!?!? I liked Adrienne...she and LVP had a fun love/hate relationship...competetive yet could have fun together. Still loved when LVP tried to teach adrienne how to cook..or when Adrienne couldn't even slice a sandwich correctly

As much as I don't like housewives that aren't married...ill make an exception for Camille

I heard that mariel quit because the show wanted to downgrade her from lead cast member to recurring. Ironically..the show wad finding its footing when CBS yanked it...and retooled it to a bad version of Dynasty.

Wow...thats on the level of Kelly Dodd.

No, I'd rather they had a special episode where cruz/Eden weren't shoved down our throats...and characters outside the Capwells were represented

Guess what ms. Beador is up to.. http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/when-life-handed-shannon-beador-lemons-she-decided-to-open-a-restaurant?cid=soc_dg_fb_RHOC

Agnes Nixon did create OLTL partly in reaction tinthe restrictions she had while working under P and G. She wanted a diverse soap in terms of class, religion, gender, and face. To tell the stories she couldn't tell under P and G. In the 70s and 80s...ATWT seemed more conservative and tame in comparison to GL. Hence why the dobsons worked on GL and not ATWT. Marland even adapted to GL and wrote it differently then he wrote ATWT.

I did like that evem though ava and Stacey stopped interacting fully in the last few years...there were occasional nods of history to their previous rivalry. Once when Ava was faking being pregnant with Leo's baby...and Stacey mentioning that Ava hadn't changed a bit over the years...and after Stacey's murder where Ava expressed sadness at her death admitting to Angie that her and Stacey were never close and feeling guilt over the stunts she pulled. Shane was an interesting character... she wad neither a heroine or a true villianess...she and Leo had a fun relationship...and boy did they have great couple spats. It was a shame the show wrote them off..but at least she had her happy ending given what had happened to her late hubby and child years before.

Gretchen needs to go away. Unless she gets married or does something with her life....she should never be back on the show. And Gretchen vs tamra is as played out as ramona vs bethenny on new York. The shows becoming about feuds and teams is what killed the franchise...and helped contribute to the toxicity of our current society.

I always thought Grant was her true love. In fact, that pairing helped mellow her to the point where she was bootable and not the interloper. And I loved how karma rewarded Lisa with Joyce Coleman in the 70s and early 80s. I think having Grant come back in the final episode wanting to check into the hotel she was running..and Lisa smiling..could have left viewers with the notion that perhaps they would end up together again.

To be honest, t amra has never been a great mother...but mark my words, that will be Kelly and Jolie in about ten years as well.