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Titans felt stilted to me, but I think the problem was mostly timing. The failure of Pacific Palisades a few years earlier, in spite of a starry cast and real promotion, should have told them that era for glossy primetime soaps was over. The next primetime soap to be a "hit" was The OC, which tried to have a more faux-edgy vibe...and even that only got attention for about a year.

That was the one I heard as well. They tried their best to sell Jax/Chloe, and Chloe in general. Nothing ever worked. I imagine the failure is one of the reasons Ingo left (too late - he probably should have left with Vanessa) for a failed attempt at primetime.

That was a big rumor, yes. After recent years I don't have a problem believing it.

https://twitter.com/marcusgilmer/status/1441827298819198983

I would imagine by that point GL also did not have the money to pay her long-term, so when there was not a ratings boost, they parted ways.

It's a shame because with a few exceptions, these were vibrant characters who could have had a long run. And later attempts at bringing some back, like Nicole, just never really worked. Everything I've seen of Henrietta was worth watching - Michele Shay was not the type of actress who was cast often on soaps, not then and not even now. She felt very special. I also liked that she and Quinn managed to become friends after Bob died. I see that she is still active. I'd be interested in seeing an interview with her or Paley (if she is still active), not that fathead Goutman.

Thanks!

Didn't his brother pistol whip her at Sam's funeral? Or have I gotten that all mixed up? Sorry, I hit my paywall limit.

Here's one. There may be one or two others around.

I hate saying, "Oh it seems obvious," because that is not the case with harassers. I will say that both he and his brother have given off vibes for a while of being men who think they can get away with anything. Just yesterday Andrew tweeted about being wronged, and got tons of gushing replies in response. Anyway, CNN desperately needs to clean house. I will not watch that network.

Thanks for posting it here for us, @Vee . I have never gone back to any of RTD's Who work after the bad handling of Donna's exit in the Tennant sendoff, or, indeed, after so many terrible choices made in that sendoff which I have likely already bitched about here before (to recap - Donna, Tigger jumps, let's all laugh at the Master's abused wife, what a failure, lol, horrible out of nowhere character slicing writing for Martha and a vague "put the black characters together and get it over with" feel to said material). The bad and treacly Celluloid Closet-esque writing of Torchwood Children of Earth and above all else RTD's extremely arrogant reactions to criticism of that writing pushed me to never watch his work again. I do see why they are bringing him back, and I do appreciate what he did for Sarah Jane and Lis Sladen, as well as the wonderful return for Jo Grant. I haven't actually watched Who since the first few episodes of Jodie's run (I didn't even ever finish Capaldi's), so I am not sure if I will go back at this point, but I do hope it works out.

To be fair I think this is the first time anyone has asked about Pat vs Dorothy. Anyway...

Thanks for responding.

Thanks. So maybe Storm just disliked the story.

Didn't Storm and Lynde clash?

I'd certainly watch him over Roger Howarth.

Your best bet would be if anyone who watched then would know. @vetsoapfan may be able to help. No problem. Glad you enjoyed it.

I've read that but anything I've seen of temp Lisa in the early '90s was Maeve Maguire, not Jane. This episode has floated all over Youtube (I think I first saw it over a decade ago on a shut down account that put up a lot of rare GL and ATWT content) and was the main time I had seen Jane in the role. I'm glad it still exists.

Not sure if any others are around. A lot of 1996 is missing.

Rosemary Prinz did NOT appear on the show in 1979. IMDB is often wrong and poorly maintained. Bob gets a phone call from Penny, whom we do not see. He then leaves for a while. I imagine this may have been a story the interim writers set up that the Dobsons dropped, as it was more interesting to have a pornstache weirdo dominate the canvas. There is some talk about the recast Penny earlier in the thread. Most of us never saw her.

I don't watch BB anymore, although I still follow along to a point, but my main takeaway is how offputting it is to have a host pushing their religious views so heavily into the narrative (and I think she now also sends all the contestants Bibles...).