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She also roasted Opal for having a dead cowboy in her bed. The best thing about Liza in that first year was how effortlessly she was utilized for the purposes of camp and John Waters type hysteria (the peak being "I want blood!" before Laurel was gunned down). Marcy was a butch actress anyway, so the winks and nods to a drag queen culture fit her well. The later attempts to make her a bland heroine did not. The best part of their relationship was the scene when she was supposed to leave him for Jake, but he told her, "I'm you," and they made love, with her realization of just how well they fit each other. This then led to a brief period where Liza was allowed to be a bit wicked but not too much so - like when she learned Adam was hiding Erica in the attic and she brought a camera crew in to film as she had the cops arrest Erica. Sadly, soon after this they had that very depressing and "off" story with Liza miscarrying because of a plane crash Adam caused (retconned several months later), and the character never recovered.

Yep.

Yes. Mindy and Mallet had lots of potential. Harley/Mallet was the start of JFP turning female characters into clones to be with the hunky men she favored...

I loved Liza's first year or so back. I thought Marcy Walker was electric. Everything from the time that they paired her with wooden Jake on was downhill. Liza lost her spark and became one of the interchangeable morass of "good" people that weren't really worth watching.

This was before JFP drained all the life out of Harley with dull Mallet.

Thanks so much @Forever8 . Can't wait to watch these.

Perpetual whiny, worthless shitface Chuck Todd went to Politico to continue the delusion that Meet the Press is a truth-telling machine and beg more Republicans to come on his show (even though they already dominate the show as it is).

@dc11786 It's funny you mention that about the bondage as sometimes those types of channels do have soap material that is hard to find elsewhere. I remember looking for some soap and the only channel that had the material from that period was some channel devoted to women cutting their long hair. The Domini story on Another Life had clips up at hypnosis channels. Emmerdale footage was on a men in bondage channel. And so on. That mother/daughter story from the book makes me wonder again why the '80s (especially the early '80s) seemed to be so prevalent with incest themes. I think that's around the time Judith Rossner wrote the book with the woman who ends up marrying a man who turns out to be her son.

Sorry the clips aren't working for you. Yes, you're right - in that "your arms are too short to box with God" scene with Frankie and Angie at the garage, Angie says explicitly that he's just like Jesse and how concerned she is. She ends up calling the cops on him for that reason. They tried to focus on the race element with Frankie again on The City but that seemed to go down like a lead balloon. I guess he was a little bland toward the end of Loving but I prefer that version of the character. The uploader mentioned that they hinted at pairing Trucker/Angie, and he even asked her out, but she declined. It's a shame as that would have been interesting to see. Thanks for more background on that 1993 episode.

Kristoff, Shemar, Tanya and Victoria definitely did a lot with any opportunities for different types of friendships or relationships. I always wish they'd had more chances. The slow marginalization and finally full degradation of Nathan through the two different eras of the show is sad to see.

Thank you @BoldRestlessfor those uploads. Watched the first two. I think some here once said Bill Bell tried to find a way to keep Lauren Koslow on but just couldn't really manage it. It's a shame as Lindsay is the exact type of complex female character (driven, aggressive but not overly so, able to have both a work life, personal life, and friendships, and best of all, not bogged down by being related to or having hooked up with half the canvas) that helped take Y&R to # 1. The number of dynamic and compelling women in that first clip alone is more than the entirety of daytime today. Bill Bell, for all the criticism some of his stories got for misogyny, did seem to love and respect women, and it's why so much of his material has aged well compared to so much of the last 15+ years of the show in comparison. I wonder if he was chem testing Lindsay and Andy before he brought the Sweeney Sister in, or if that was never meant to go anywhere. Those scenes were a lot of fun. And it was refreshing to see a 4th of July episode that wasn't set at the Newman pool party. I'd agree with that. Jazz, Amy, Tyrone, Nathan, etc. were very believably integrated into the canvas with Paul, Lauren and Andy. Later on the black cast became so segregated.

Socialists. After that it becomes more split between socialists who actually want to improve the country and socialists who just want everything to be destroyed because they are rich and it won't affect them/they hate America/they are grifters.

It's what most people are talking about, even on here. It's seemingly the main topic of discussion over anything else in the bill. We can disagree, but for me it's accurate.

The biggest problem is how this may hurt vulnerable Democrats like Raphael Warnock, who will be called liars. Beyond that, everything else in the bill has now been eclipsed. That moment was lost,

It's been starting to trickle into the Beltway, which is why Politico had Ben Shapiro, who has downplayed the attack, write a column on the subject yesterday.

Sadly I think it's mostly just going to be a thin veneer of ass-covering, followed by a lot of the different elements sticking together because they generally manage to do so in order to hold onto levers of power. Gerrymandering will be a huge help in that area. If gerrymandering is ever tackled, then things will start to change. Speaking of which, here is a great example of cravenness in action. One of your state's senators, who voted to decertify the election results, now walking back after corporate donors got upset. https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/sen-james-lankford-apologizes-to-black-tulsans-for-questioning-presidential-election-results/article_6f0c2d1a-56bd-11eb-a6cb-bfb64a69f21e.html There's already a heavy push to try to downplay what happened at the Capitol, mocking the members of Congress who were scared, trying to just act like it was silliness and fun, etc. The more time passes the more that view will take up media oxygen. That can't be stopped, sadly, but I wish there was a way to completely neutralize (they don't have the votes to expel) all members of Congress who go along with this. I was reading about the plans to announce a $1,400 stimulus and say that people already had $600 so that makes $2,000. I get it - it's clear some like Manchin were not going for $2,000, and Biden wants to try to claim bipartisanship and then if it doesn't go through, pass with a narrow majority (if Manchin will go along). But this is bad messaging - Democrats campaigned on $2,000. This just leaves room for media darlings like Marco or Josh Hawley (if he is still viable) to push their fake populism.

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The loathsome Ben Shapiro guest-wrote for Politico today, which means we will have more "cancel culture" headlines that will drown out real news.

I would rather see an older character and not someone who will just slot in with the Dingles, but I like Faith well enough. Sally Dexter is an excellent actress. I had a feeling it would be her once I read the statements from the producers, which were not really that hyperbolic. Some of the press made the return seem bigger than they did.

The talking points and pro-GOP tilt are already well in gear.