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A partial episode from around the same time they uploaded a few weeks ago. This is right before Trisha marries Steve.

Peter Davies spends all his scenes in a towel so @Soapsuds you may enjoy this.

Is that Geoffrey Ewing in the prison scenes or is it someone else? If it is him, I never knew he was on Loving twice.

I never knew the town paper was called Corinthian either.

Not sure if this one has been up before. I am not sure of the exact date other than sometime in 1987 due to Steve and Luke Perry/Alexandra Wilson all being around. Unfortunately, it's not in English but I thought people would still enjoy it, especially as this period isn't well represented. You also get to see Shana in one of the most hideous sweaters I've ever seen on television. 

I wasn't sure who the woman talking with Gwyn and Ann is.

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Skimming through this, I notice several overacted aw shucks one-episode characters that I don't associate with ATWT that often before this point. I guess it is about on the level of hackiness of that writing team.

All My Children clip (February 10, 1986) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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1 hour ago, Khan said:

What makes Bernie Sanders' supporters think he could win a presidential election?  Where are their receipts?

He was their anti-establishment magical grandpa, all vibes and no reality. If he had ever actually had a chance they would have grown to despise him, as many of them now do when he's tried occasionally to legislate and be serious.

Ad near the start and at about 7 minutes.

3 and a half minutes.

 30 seconds in.

A promo at around 2 minutes and another around 2:45.

There are a few promos in the early minutes of this video:

Promo at 5 minutes, another at 6 minutes. There's a Karen Morris Gowdy ad at about 4 minutes.

Promo at the start of this. There's another with Siobhan/Joe that repeats a few times.

A promo about a minute into this:

Yet more MSNBC propaganda from Democrats who happily tell everyone they will sacrifice America for their own goal.

I'm surprised that more of Andy's antics don't get him notice - there's so much griminess surrounding his behavior on WWHL or many other appearances (like the New Year's specials I had to stop watching).

It's been interesting to see Phaedra have a warm welcome for her edit on The Traitors only to slowly undercut that with fans through her interviews, the latest using Christianity as a broadside and also deriding someone she doesn't like as giving the impression of driving around in a windowless van (which just led some fans who had never heard of the stuff she did to Kandi on RHOA to end up hearing about it). The facade of Phaedra is compelling but I feel like the toxicity at the core is never far away.

September 1990 Soap Opera Weekly Marlena de Lacroix column.

What's Wrong With Santa Barbara?

Got your attention, didn't I? Before you bombard me with cards and letters, let me say that I am not here to slice and dice Santa Barbara. Yes, the six year old soap won its third Best Show Emmy this June. Yes, it has its own cult audience. Yes, the press loves SB. SB may be the most acclaimed show on daytime, but the bottom line is that this is the television business. Just ask Brandon Tartikoff, or NBC daytime vice president Jackie Smith. Santa Barbara's ratings stink. 

But I know how to fix them.

No, this isn't going to be another I, me, moi, Marlena column. But I watched SB from the first time it aired, in July 1984, and for a great while I adored it. It was so funny, so sophisticated, so wry, so, well...so Marlena. Then around the fall of 1987 - remember that date, it's key here - I stopped watching. This February, though, I turned a critical eye on SB once more because of the arrival of senior executive producer John Conboy, the first-rate producer of The Young and the Restless and the late, mostly great Capitol. 

Sending in Conboy to "fix" the show was indeed a master stroke. You can always tell when you're watching a Conboy soap. The sets and costumes are elegant, the talent is new, young, promising - and beautiful. But Conboy's mark is more than cosmetic. He's a smart, ultraprofessional producer. He acknowledged up front that his real job at SB was to get an alienated audience - like moi - to "sample" the soap again.

So, since the spring I've been "sampling" SB and I've found that it indeed has been Conboy-ized. Everyone's hair - especially Marcy Walker's (Eden Castillo) and Robin Mattson's (Gina Timmons) is now shorter and more stylish. The luxe new Capwell mansion and Polo Club sets are spectacular. 

Conboy quickly seized on the face that SB has the best looking male cast (Healy! Callahan! O'Hurley! McCloskey!) in daytime and rounded them up into the Four Boys from the orphanage plot. Thankfully, Roscoe "the divine" Born came back, and was cannily cloned into twins (Robert/Quinn). Conboy's only error since coming aboard SB was recycling the silly Arab plot front the last days of Capitol. 

In short, Conboy has fired all his guns with relish and skill. But as I began watching again I realized that something was still missing from the show, although I couldn't quite put my finger on it. Then one day I saw a scene between the newly returned Lionel and his ex-wife Augusta Lockridge (original cast members Nicolas Coster and Louise Sorel) and I knew instantly what - or more accurately who - it was. Bring back Bridget and Jerome Dobson!

For those of you who have just tuned in, Bridget and Jerry Dobson are the excellent head writer (General Hospital, Guiding Light, As the World Turns) who gave birth to SB in 1984. They set the show in their own California home town and set out to capture what they described as the quirky charm, the artsy oddness of the real people who live in that scenic West Coast community. 

I met the Dobsons at a pre-premiere breakfast. They were professionally distant, but I still found them to be charmingly odd, witty and smart. They promised a show that would be sophisticated and intelligent, full of wit not to be found elsewhere on daytime. Cynical moi chuckled silently, but damned if the Dobsons didn't deliver on their promise (once the show got past its rocky first year).

Remember how funny and delightfully bizarre the Dobsons' SB was circa 1985-87? Mason, of course, became famous for his snide asides and Shakespeareanisms. (Oh how I miss Lane "the divine" Davies, thought [sic] I do like Terry Lester.) Geriatric Minx Lockridge (Dame Judith Anderson) was eccentric a go-go. Sophia (Judith McConnell) spent her first few months on the show in drag. Gina wreaked comic havoc every single day. And that wonderful couple, Lionel and Augusta, bickered endlessly, and occasionally played a bizarre "truth circle" game - they drew a chalk circle in their bedroom and told each other only the truth while standing in that circle. It didn't take moi long to figure out that glib, kooky Lionel and Augusta were the Dobsons in disguise. 

Now the Lockridges are back, but their real words are not. Sadly, the Dobsons were deposed from their own show a few years ago in a convoluted ownership battle that's still in litigation. When exactly? I just checked. It was fall 1987, which corresponds exactly to the time I grew bored and stopped watching! SB had stopped being funny, stopped being sophisticated and smart. And despite the efforts of all those presently involved, it still isn't either. 

No matter how good a producer is, it's the head writers who make - or break - a soap. In soaps, the writers are the shows. There are so few good ones in daytime (you know the litany...Marland...Bell...Nixon...Long...). It's a shame that the Dobsons are sitting out there in legal limboland. With Conboy back, all SB lacks is good writing.

Now, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know how to surmount all the legal hassles involved. But if GH could resurrect Duke Lavery and GL could resurrect Beth Raines and Roger Thorpe, NBC and New World Productions can find a way to resurrect the people who made SB so great. 

September 1990 Soap Opera Weekly fan mail column

Hey, One Life - Get a Life!

What's wrong with the summer ratings? What's wrong with the summer shows? Why has One Life to Live sunk to No. 8 in the ratings? Simple - it is ridiculous!

Since early January, plots have been started and never resolved. Couples come and go like ships passing in the night. Max and Gabrielle MARRIED? Six months ago he could not stand her. (This is a NEW Max, so that must explain it.) Cord DIVORCES Tina and now she plans to marry him again. (This is a NEW Tina, so that must explain it.) Brenda and Dan are together for two weeks before he goes after his red haired damsel in distress. Father Tony wears the collar one day and Reeboks and Polo shirts the next. Worst of all, after two years and the most elaborate plot to date, the love story of Viki and Roger met a swift and unsatisfactory end. In two minutes and two seconds, Viki bids Roger a rather cold farewell and then runs to Clint thanking him for his "patience and understanding."

PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING??!! I had to adjust the sound on my set for that one! The writers wanted to reunite Viki and Clint - why? How many times can we see him waiting at the hospital for Viki to recover from her gunshot wound? They could have had Roger die. After all, he was in a coma for weeks. But then I suppose he could not have shot Michael Grande and disappeared into thin air! At last the writers gave us a strong story with Viki's massive stroke, and then Erica [sic] Slezak is sent on vacation! 

If I wanted to see The Godfather, I'd rent it at the video store.

Last, but not least, why were the talents of Gerald Anthony wasted, giving him no more purpose than set decoration on Badderly? The stronger the actor, the smaller the role. I am sorry to see this once-great show deteriorate so. OLTL is going nowhere but down...in the ratings, that is!

Pamela Salem 1944-2024 - News - Big Finish

Pamela was on many shows, including a stint in the golden era of EE as part of Den Watts' slow decline. She may be best known for her work on Classic Doctor Who, which helped lead to a great deal of Big Finish audio work in her later years. 

Needless to say Nate Silver had a big tantrum and whinefest about how it's not the NYT's job to work for Democrats.

6 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

I wonder if some of that can be chalked up to the exit of Harley Venton's character, Derek Colby? From some of the summaries of GL in 1982 but I can't help but to think Marland had major plans for the character and perhaps Derek and Vanessa were going to be endgame had Marland continued writing for the show (and the show had kept on Derek's character). Pairing up Vanessa's firery vixen character with the straight laced and by the book Derek Colby would've gained quite the following I imagine. 

I could see that. I liked Derek in what I've seen of him. He was a moral character but with humor as well, and more compelling to me than the traditional leading man. I wish they'd kept him.

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I saw a claim that John Byrne drew Wolverine in his likeness. I'm not too sure on that one, but there is a resemblance.

5 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

I believe it must be the Thursday, September 12 -- the voiceover over the end theme mentions that Thrill of a Lifetime would be on that night and I found these listings showing that that show was on on Thursdays in 1985. (Note that the first couple of scenes in the broadcast were from the previous day -- the first scene of September 12 would be Kathleen reading Felicia's book.) And more particularly,there is a commercial and a mention in the voiceover for The Terry Fox Story airing that night, and the listings for September 12 show Terry Fox at 10pm.

Thank you so much. I mentioned this to them and credited you.

Is Russell Todd starting an OnlyFans? 

59 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

Some of you really need to stop looking at any of the Beltway media as it relates to abortion. 1. They barely talk about it.  2. They pretend that a 16 week ban is viable - exactly what data do they think women are looking at to sacrifice our rights? 

The reason I brought this up is not because I think the media has a great hold on the public with abortion conversation (2022 proved that) but because it's another example of how the media has gone out of its way to try to wishcast Trump as mainstream and a sensible conservative for the last 8-9 years. I do think that still has an impact, much as I wish it didn't. There are so many stupid people, and people like Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Colin Jost, a million NYT/Washington Post reporters, what have you, who are well-paid to be stupid, who parrot both sides, why bother for change mentality.

On 2/13/2024 at 9:48 PM, John said:

Thats why I would do a story where Andy does exist BUT because of how Jackie has become he has basically divorced himself from her

Also is Crystal still the Mom of Ed Jr and his sister in this universe?

Have they ever been mentioned on the revival?

Eddie Drueding mentioned that the date on that episode (9/16) is likely wrong. If anyone can help narrow the date down this seems to be the week it would have aired in:

SEPTEMBER 9-13, 1985
Donna fumed when Marley decided to go live with Dee. Felicia reminisced about her love for Edward, who's the subject of her latest romance novel. Edward, who underwent plastic surgery, nixed facing Felicia until he's fully recovered. Brittany asked Larry to find out if her baby, Evan, who's supposedly dead, is really alive. Michaud dreamed about seducing Sally, whose romantic thoughts are focused only on Catlin. Chris realized that Daphne was once his father, Frederick's, mistress. Carl and Daphne realized that there's a curse on the Egyptian falcon head pendant that Nancy wears. Cass agreed to help Kathleen prove her theory that something fishy is going on at the Chapin mansion. Jake got Ned to drop the car theft charges against Victoria. Daphne lied to Michaud that she's not looking for the mysterious Egyptian treasure. Donna meddled in Victoria's and Marley's lives.

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Yeah, Donahue could have waited for the clip to end before talking. It seems like the habit of someone who is pressed for time. In an editing room when people have to decide where to make cuts, that’s when you hear people chatter over film like this. Otherwise, Donahue is actually engaging with the actors and at least isn’t condescending and let the actors on the panel be their charming selves. 
I wonder who put these clips together? It could be the Donahue people but it reminds me that today, the PAs on shows like The Talk or even The View are unlikely to even watch today’s soaps as the times I have watched their segments, maybe a tribute or anniversary episode on one of the remaining soaps these segments appear out of synch or seem to make little sense.

I love how obviously happy Eileen Fulton is to have Helen Wagner back on the show.

And Eileen’s insistence that had it not been for Lisa, Alexis on Dynasty is unlikely to have happened is probably a correct assumption, even though delivered with bravado.

I did roll my eyes a little at some of the line of questioning which felt very mandated (especially all the talk about sexual content), but he did seem to genuinely want to hear their thoughts, unlike many of these segments on other shows. I hadn't thought about the clip selection - a part of me thinks they chose whatever survived and had the actors, but it must have been more involved. 

I was mostly just so interested in hearing more talk about Edith Hughes (I suppose it shows how much time had passed even in 1985 that the crowd had no reaction to her) I had wondered at times if she ever interacted with Lisa. Hearing that she left (aside from brief returns) just as Lisa was arriving on the show feels like another of those fate of the universe moments. 

It's too bad the show never replicated her type of role in the Hughes family. 

8 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

I can't say if you have seen the clip before, but I know I have. I remember Phil's comments about the vintage scene from when I watched the Donahue episode originally.

Glad you got to see it again. I hope the full version may pop up someday.

@vetsoapfan Is that Jacquie Courtney in the ad around 56 minutes? (in the 1985 AW video posted above)

Somehow sad and fitting all at once for Jacquie to close out AW (months after being written out of the show).