Posts posted by DRW50
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Saints & Sinners mentioned as the show Scott Bailey is on. I guess this was MyNetworkTV's attempt at promotion.
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@slick jones This doesn't seem to be listed on Scott Bailey's IMDB. He was in an least one episode of this odd court/celebrity hybrid called Jury Dury.
Catherine Oxenberg and Christopher Maleki are in other episodes on that channel (they were also credited in IMDB).
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Christopher Malecki in an episode of some hybrid court/celebrity show I'd never heard of.
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Carl Tye Evans talks around 26-27 minutes about his ATWT role. He says he was not interested in going back on soaps, but his agent suggested he at least talk to the producer. He did, and the part was interesting to him. He was also glad to learn he'd be working with (I assume) Lesli Kay. Goutman said he'd been told that Carl wasn't going to audition. Carl had told his agent this as he figured CBS knew him and if they didn't want him he wasn't going to push himself. However, once he learned about the part, he told Goutman he wouldn't have a problem auditioning. He ended up getting the role without the audition.
A few minutes in Kristina Sisco (Abigail) is brought on as a surprise guest. She looks great.
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4 minutes ago, P.J. said: Now that you say that, Ben was on episodes of the show. He tells Quint that Rebecca had a tumor or something that led to her bizarre behavior.
Thanks. Those must be around then in some Quola clip.
I wonder if any GL fans were confused when these characters just stopped appearing.
Reading this, it seems Ben was in 3 episodes of GL. They mention that James Farentino was also asked to appear. He told them he wanted to direct an episode and also wanted a lot of money to appear. He assumed that they would let him direct rather than pay him big money - instead they just offered him the money. He declined.
They also have one of the strangest publicity photos I can recall for this type of enterprise, where if you didn't know better you'd think Ben and Ross were in love. I can buy it more than most of Ross' '80s romances...
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1 minute ago, P.J. said: A big problem with the constant regime changes that when characters got "cleaned out", there wasn't a structure left to really welcome return visits. In '97, who do you bring back that adds to story? I think Don Stewart came back, didn't he? The Bauers had dwindled, and Alan-Michael wasn't there. They got Michael Tylo back, but McTrash had trashed Quint and Nola, and Vanessa's "dead". Billy's back, but Vanessa's "dead" and married to that [!@#$%^&*] lunkhead ****. '97 would have been the optimal time to bring on Stacey Chamberlain, but they couldn't even get that right...
Alan-Michael was still there, barely, at the time Mike was, but left almost immediately after.
Harley and Jenna were initially just anniversary returns.
I'm not entirely sure who I would have brought back. Maybe try to get Tom O'Rourke back as Justin and bring back Sam (recast if need be), who could be a rival for Dinah.
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23 minutes ago, dio said: they don't care, fam. They went younger for Kristen, younger with EJ, younger Chad (Conner Floyd is 33, lol) and subsequently Billy Flynn is younger than Daniel Goddard. These shows don't care. It's insane. Beyond the Gates CLEARLY has Karla Mosley playing a character that's supposed to be OLDER than 44 based on the casting of her CHILDREN. lol
There's only a 3 year age difference between the EJs.
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Just now, DeeVee said: Oooh, I think I know which one you're talking about. I don't remember the title, but Pleshette played a soap writer. It was a murder mystery, and members of the cast were getting killed off on the soap. Does that sound right?
The Cradle Will Rock thing didn't just have the soap characters/actors play roles in the movie, they wrote into episodes of GL the leads of the movie--Ben Murphy and I want to say Lauren Hutton? Murphy played a doctor. I recall a scene on GL, not in the movie, where Hope comes to his office to talk to him.
An interesting concept but I don't think it went much further than that.
That's right,
I didn't realize Ben and Lauren popped up on GL. I hope some of that material shows up someday.
What a unique idea, and an interesting choice to use GL as the guinea pig. A shame they never tried again.
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2 minutes ago, DeeVee said: I was not watching live so I didn't see the chat.
I remember that movie The Cradle Will Fall, yes it was a terrible TV movie based on a wildy popular bestseller at the time. CBS was doing an experiment where they were going to tie in soaps with TV movies to see if they could get soap viewers to tune in to the TV movies. I'm not sure if they did it with other soaps, but since GL was my show I did watch it (so yeah, it worked, because I read the book and thought it was trash, lol).
The funny, or maybe kind of sad, part about this is that they had Hope involved in hospital business--which wasn't the case on the soap. At all. All of a sudden, she was doing stuff that had no connection to Alan. It was kind of wild because it was like, why weren't they doing this with Hope on GL? It should have been a wake-up moment for the writers to realize that the problem with her character was how they kept her tethered so tightly to Alan.
Jerry ver Dorn also did the movie, which gave Ross and Hope some scenes together, and hells bells, what an opportunity to have created an interesting quadrangle with Alan/Hope/Ross/Trish.
I gather from what others have said about her firing was that Kobe was making a point--that nobody was safe. I honestly do not understand why the network let her get away with this. Even if you weren't a fan of Roussel or Hope at that time, they eviscerated the cast. In the short-term it didn't hurt the show, but in the long-term it was catestrophic.
I can understand them not bringing her back in 1997--a lot of fans wouldn't have even remembered her.
A year or so before ABC had had several GH cast members playing other roles in a TV-movie with Suzanne Pleshette, but playing their soap characters I don't think was ever done.
The most ridiculous part of the "teaching a lesson" reason is Kobe fired just about the whole cast anyway, so what was the point? Did Jerry ver Dorn learn his lesson and no one else did?
I didn't realize the movie did much more with Hope than the show did. That's just sad.
I think with Mike and Alan-Michael around they could have had reason for Hope to briefly return, but I imagine Rauch would have felt she wasn't hot enough. I should probably be surprised he didn't back out of Mike's return.
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AWHP posted a transcript of a call-in interview of Victoria Wyndham's from 1995. The most interesting part is how many callers complained about Justine, which Victoria does not seem thrilled by. She addresses questions about whether Iris will be back, and why Amanda was written out. She also said she talks the same way in real life as she does as Rachel. I wonder if this is before she began using the Shakespeare voice as Rachel.
Transcript of the interview with Victoria Wyndham from ANOTHER WORLD
People tied to AW were repeatedly asked when Iris was returning yet they never bothered. Sad.
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6 minutes ago, Khan said: I could see Brad Pitt as Dylan, maybe, but as Alan-Michael? No, lol.
Or Ian Ziering's character.
16 minutes ago, DeeVee said: I'm only at the part where Carl got cast as A-M, but I can't help thinking:
They had Brad Pitt auditioning, who was clearly wrong for the part, but instead of creating a character for him, they did it for--Frank D.
For some reason, this is hilarious to me. 😂
Brad floated all around the soaps in the mid/late '80s but never seemed to get a permanent gig. I guess they just didn't see it (to be honest I never quite have either).
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@safe Not sure if this was posted before, but it's not on the IMDB credits for Lisa Sutton (Nancy Feldman #1).
@slick jones Not sure if this is in your files. Sorry if it is.
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11 minutes ago, P.J. said: The movie was The Cradle Will Fall. What a shitty thing to do. I'm not Elvera's biggest fan, but she deserved better than that.
I'm not sure I disagree with not bringing back John for the 60th. Truth be told, one-off type returns annoy me. For example, while Adam Thorpe returned for Blake's wedding, it was to interact mostly with characters he'd never interacted with. Kelly didn't have a family base to interact with.
I agree - she did deserve better.
Kelly isn't someone I would have brought back either, although I guess he could have had closure with Nola.
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Another tidbit (I hope the fans who like to talk about the old days can see this)
Someone in the chat mentioned that they used to talk to Elvera Roussel but haven't in years. They mentioned that CBS fought for Elvera when Kobe/Long wanted her out. CBS said she's promoting a movie for us (the TV-movie various GL actors were in at the time), give her 13 weeks. So Kobe/Long did. Then 13 weeks later they fired Elvera.
They mentioned that Elvera and John Wesley Shipp were going to return for GL's 60th in 1997. They said that Rauch stopped Elvera and John from returning.
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16 minutes ago, Allan00 said: Love it! Am wondering what soap vet might have had good chemistry with Gideon? Tho, I personally liked her chemistry with Lambie, but he was gone by then.
If Joel Crothers had lived I think she would have worked well with him. I could see her working well with John Gabriel too.
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Great to see your thoughts in here @Allan00
I haven't watched tons of that era of the show, but Meek does seem to be an acquired taste.
I agree Gideon sold the turn in Liza. I am not sure what they could have done with her afterward but a complete fresh start could have helped...maybe buying a farm or something.
MyNetworkTv's Telenovela Experiment (2006-2007)
in DTS: Cancelled Soaps
I'd never heard of this show. You have sitcom royalty, fading standups, has-beens, soap actors...and Scott Hamilton.