"most popular senior" in the college yearbook. Teal Ames, known to daytime TV audiences as Sara Karr - wife of hard-hitting attorney Mike Karr, played by handsome John Larkin, on The Edge of Night - answered questions modestly and frankly. Questions about herself, the show, the fun of playing Sara for more than four years. About romance in the script, and personal romance. About marriage and children, love of animals, the joys of country life versus the blandishments of New York. Most of all, about her life as she is living it now, and what she wants for the future.
"A green little girl from Binghamton, New York," is the way she described herself when she left home in the summer of 1953. She had been in plays at Stephens College in Missouri, and later at Syracuse University in New York State, after she transferred to be nearer home during her father's last illness. She had the lead in a play being tried out for Broadway, although it never arrived. But just the idea that it might have was all the encouragement she needed.
Was that why you, Teal Ames, went to New York?
"I left home, an ambitious career girl, burning with the hope I could prove myself in New York. Getting the usual newcomer's experience - in stock, TV walk-ons, now and then allowed to speak a few lines. The chance to do commercials, and then the fear of never again getting a straight acting part if I stayed with them too long. Some films - documentaries and TV - then better parts in some of the most important TV dramatic shows. And, finally, the really big break every actress waits for: In my case, auditioning for the female lead in The Edge of Night - and getting it. Fitting into the role of Sara until now she has become almost a part of me and I a part of her."
How satisfying has the success been?
"Wonderfully satisfying," Teal says. "I still can't believe it happened to me. I'm grateful for all the help I got from everyone. Without it, I could never have learned so much so quickly."
On the show, at first, she was an engaged girl, Sara Lane. Now she is wife and mother, Mrs. Mike Karr. But could it be possible that romance was passing Teal Ames by while she was playing it so winningly on TV?
"I'll tell you the way I feel about myself, about not being married yet. I had the experience of falling in love - and of finding it wasn't right for me then. Many girls do, and that's hard for a while. But I learned from it. I grew up as a result. Some girls grow up young, some take a little longer. I am one of those who took a little more time."
How would you feel about marrying on the rebound, after a romance has turned sour?
I wouldn't want to take second-best, or to marry in a hurry because I was lonely. It's far better to be alone than to take the chance of making someone else unhappy. That would have been a great mistake for me."
Do you think a blighted romance leaves lasting bitterness?
"Certainly not. You learn from everything, and nothing that happens to you can be really bad. It's part of your experience in life."
Do you think a career makes a girl less ready to marry?
"In a way, yes. Speaking for myself, there have been times in my life - not now, but in the past - when I didn't feel ready to be a good wife. I was still trying too hard to prove myself in the business, to learn new things. If a wife is trying to carve out her own career, it often requires everything she has to give. Many marriages do work out under these conditions - but I never thought it would, for me."
When a girl is successful in her work, is this fact apt to scare off eligible men?
"That's an individual problem. And a very real one, at times. Difficult for both the girl and the man. Even a man who is making good money is sometimes afraid that the girl may eventually earn more than he does. This is particularly true in professions like acting, where you can wait a long, long time for a break, but a couple of good breaks can increase earning power almost overnight.
"In such cases, the girl must ask herself how much all this means to her. Whether, if she had to give it up, it would make her unhappy. The things money can give, on one level, are wonderful. But on another level, for the most important things in life, you don't need too much money. You can manage with just enough."
What, to you, are these "important things"?
"People. Your relationship to the people around you. To one person, one man - if you want a good marriage that will last. To the children. Money can't buy these."
How does the husband retain his standing as the head of the house?
"I think the man must feel he is the provider. She must not overbalance him. The work he does, where and how they live, must be his decisions. In the unhappy marriages I have seen, these are the things which are out of kilter.
"I feel now that I could live anywhere with the right person. If I marry a city man, I would live in a city, although I would like to have a farm somewhere so I could enjoy that kind of life at least part of the time. When I was five, my grandmother took me to Europe and for six months I lived on a farm. Now I read up on gardening - in an encyclopedia that weighs about a ton! - and am very interested in growing natural, organic foods, and in the kind of farming that puts elements back into the soil which have been taken out. I love to cook, and to fuss around a house."
Would you want to bring up your children in the country?
"When I get married, no matter where we live, I want a lot of kids - I am one of five myself - and I would like a free and open life for them. But city children apparently are as happy and well-adjusted. Although some of my friends' children, in New York, have to make appointments just to go out to play with the other kids, and an adult has to take them wherever they go. This seems hard to me. On the other hand, there are intellectual discoveries which city children make that come much later for country children - the museums, theaters, concerts.
"Maybe my children wouldn't be as fond of the country as I am. My little half-brother, Eddie, who is five, wants to live in New York and it seems to fit his personality. When my mother brings him to visit, he is mad about riding in elevators and taxicabs. My thirteen-year-old brother Billy learned about salt-water swimming, and water skiing and fishing when I had a house at the beach for two summers. I suppose there is always something to make children happy, wherever they are.
"The thing a career woman has to consider carefully is that children deserve their mother's care. There are times when, no matter who else is with them, they need her."
Do you believe a girl should cultivate some interests, apart from home and job, to fill her life when her husband is busy and the children are older and need less and less from her?
"I do. I want to get back to piano practice, now and to keep up always. I love to paint, am untaught, and probably would be called a 'primitive.' I have my own personal one-man show hanging in my apartment - one picture. But that's fun for me, if no one else ever saw it. I love to drive a car - in New York, you keep a car mostly to drive out of it. I drive home to Binghamton to see the family. I have made it a point to learn something about the insides, so the car won't have me at its mercy some night when I'm on a long stretch of road."
Why do you, Teal Ames, continue to enjoy being Sara Karr on TV?
"Sara represents the good, solid wife who stands back of her husband in the home. I think that's what every woman wants to be. Sara isn't demanding - she worries about Mike's work as an attorney who defends his clients against the criminal elements in the community, and sometimes this makes her a little over-protective, as wives are tempted to be. But she is never demanding of things for herself - of what he must do for her, or give to her."
Do you, as an actress, mind being recognized on the street, in theaters and night clubs?
"I like it. But except for the people who watch The Edge of Night - and there must be an enormous number, because i am constantly being waved to, and stopped and talked to, and hearing the show praised, and the mail is terrific - but apart from those people who see me on TV, few believe I am an actress. Even when they ask me what I do, and I tell them. They expect me to be more sophisticated. I guess I still have 'Binghamton' written all over me - and I don't mind it at all.
"As for being recognized in night clubs, I have never enjoyed that kind of life much. Once a girl gets on that treadmill, it's hard to get off, and it never represented what I wanted from life. I like to travel and, when I do, I try to see all there is in the country...how the people live, what they eat and like to do. I've been to Europe. And, this year, I have been having a gorgeous time sailing off the coast of Puerto Rico with friends, whenever I could get away for brief vacations."
What is your day like when you are working on the show?
"Much less hectic and hurried than it was four years ago, when I started on The Edge Of Night. We had to begin rehearsals at eight A.M. for the four-thirty P.M. broadcast. Now we can get in at ten, because we are so set in the characters. We know them so well that the lines seem completely natural to them, and everything moves more easily and quickly.
"When it isn't a working day, there are always dozens of things to catch up with. I am up early every day, taking my dogs for a walk before I fix breakfast. I still have 'Chrys' - short for 'Chrysanthemum' - the brown poodle who has appeared with me on the show, and one of Chrys's daughter, a sentimental incident, when Sara was working in a flower shop at the show's beginning. She and Mike had a lovers' quarrel over something he said which she didn't believe. She found he was telling the truth, they made up, and he gave her a bouquet of chrysanthemums, warning hear teasingly, 'If you are ever again in doubt about anything I tell you, just say [Chrysanthemum' - and I'll prove I am telling the truth.'"
Finally, Teal Ames, do you think of yourself as a happy person?
"I'll answer that by saying life has been good to me. Some people run around frantically because they are not happy, always looking for something they can't find. I believe that you gravitate naturally toward the things you really want. Or you place yourself in the position where they can happen to you.
"And while I may not get all of those wonderful things I have talked about - a good marriage, home, children, the farm, a garden - I am confident that something good will come. Many good things. The career was just the beginning..."