All My Shadows

I didn't know Jean was leaving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OePvsCfKHJg

I came across this video on YT that compiles some of the character themes from the show. I needed to see this to be sure that I wasn't losing my mind when I realized certain pieces were used for certain characters. I'm pretty obsessed with the Kirby, Alexis, and La Mirage themes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHwJPhRJGP0 ETA: I just realized I posted about this very topic earlier in the thread and raved about the Alexis and La Mirage themes then! There's just something about that sweeping shot up Alexis's building with that music playing that just gets me hyped up.

Kirby's story is about her trying to cope with carrying Adam's baby after he raped her while unhappily married to Jeff, who can't make up his mind between Fallon and Kirby. Blake and Krystle remarry after reconciling following the revelation that they weren't legally married (Krystle was still married to Mark) and a strained relationship because of Blake's efforts to get custody of Danny from Steven.

I'm currently in S4, and I'm shocked at how much I'm enjoying Kirby now. I really couldn't stand her in the third season, but she's gotten much more assertive in regards to both Jeff and Adam, and her plans for her child, and I'm loving this spacey bitch! My Adam love, on the other hand, is waning. He's so sad and depressing all the time now, and quite obsessive over Kirby. I like him best when he's bouncing between Alexis and Blake. Tracy Kendall, meanwhile...lol Peter de Vilbis is a waste of time and space. Helmut Berger is painful to watch as he struggles through the simplest lines, and Jeff getting butthurt over Fallon getting a new man is annoying. Meanwhile, Mark Jennings is still hanging around desperately searching for relevance. All of his love interests have moved on lol LexDex are clearly where it's at. Loving Dex's introduction so far and the back-and-forthing with him and Alexis.

I really like the song too lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1kDd6yBQZ4

I'm so sorry to hear of the passing of Anna Wing. Lou was a force in early EE and definitely one of my favorite characters from the show's history. RIP!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS_k4E1vN_E

It's crazy how fortunate the character of Casey was as far as actors. Zach Roerig wasn't at his best on ATWT, but he's improved greatly. Scott Porter was a temp Casey, and now Billy, who pretty much owned the role, is doing bigger and bigger things.

So freaking relevant.

I can understand your point, and I apologize for being crispy. I can say personally, though, that I don't regularly watch. In fact, the two scenes I saw of Tuesday night's show were the first I've seen in a few weeks. I want to like the show, and I thought I would, and there are parts that I do like, but in the end, it's just not doing enough to keep me tuning in at all. I feel like I get what I need out of it by reading other people's comments on it.

Right. But anyway, I agree with Eric83 that this would be better if it was under the pen of someone other than TP or if there was someone there to balance out his tropes. The idea itself isn't even anything new or Earth-shattering, and it really doesn't have to be, but damn, it's gotta at least be interesting for more than five minutes at a time (and I know I'm being generous). All that dead air could be used to help flesh these characters out, and I don't know...maybe get them out of the house for a change.

Why are you speaking as if you are Tyler Perry himself? You don't have to "take" the criticism, because it isn't directed towards you lol

I agree with this 100%. I liked the beginning of the scene, for the general atmosphere of Benny wanting to set his mother up on a date and her reluctantly going along with it, but once DA DRAMA!!! began with the reveal, it was wayyyyyyy too much happening at once. It really was a poor way to introduce Benny's birth father, and I sincerely hope he isn't Candace's too.

I didn't read Jeffery's assessment of Wyatt's character as even being accurate. To me, it came off as "OMG I have a huge crush on you, and even though you're an !@#$%^&*], in my idealized schoolgirl fantasy you are really a kind, loving soul who just needs someone to understand you!!" Wyatt reacted well to that because, even though those words were fueled by Jeffery's crush, they were still positive words being used to describe him, which isn't something we're seeing a lot of from his parents. He went douchey after that because he had to remind himself, "Sh!t, he's only being cool with me because he wants my schlong." Which leads me to believe that these two will probably never actually be a couple because Wyatt is straight, but he'll use whatever shallow feelings Jeffery has for him to his advantage when he needs to. You awful people have me defending Emmit's writing, and I'll never forgive you for it. Evah.

ALL of you are going to hell for putting me on Toilet Paper's defense team. That is all.

"Young love may be oh so mean. Will I still survive the same old scene?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVvb3MS57yk

I loved that exchange! I thought the back-and-forth questioning was very natural.

Joffrey lol IDK, I liked the scene. I was sucked in by whether or not Wyatt was actually going to show some kind of interest in Jeffery, and that kinda kept me in suspense. The Candice revelation at the end was awful, but I like that TP at least had the sense to leave us with a real cliffhanger. Also liked what I saw of Hanna and her blind date, though I thought it was too much too soon to reveal him as Benny's father and have her kick him out.

That final scene between Wyatt and Jeffery tonight was pretty good, I must say. Might have been the first "long scene" that actually worked and felt like old school soap on this ridiculous series.

A smooth disco classic from Miss France Joli... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elLBEwi9PUE

Was there someone asking whether or not TP writes the scripts? Because I'ma say yeah, he does.

LMAO, that was embarrassing.

I think you're near the time I checked out, Eric. I thought it was a pretty solid programme from Billy Jackson's death until a few months into the switch.