17 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

First of all, whoever dressed Vivica A Fox in that same the same ugly green 1992 Knots Landing style pantsuit that Melissa Ordway had to wear like a year or two ago needs to be FIRED ASAP.

Different suit from a different costume designer and nah, Mandi Line can stay. She's the one highlight about this soap behind-the-scenes.

16 hours ago, Khan said:

That's what happens when budget restraints force you to shop for your actors at Kohl's.

Line has shown where she shops, and it's far from Kohl's.

Let me take a moment to holler at Cane being broke...which he should have been in the first place when he ran into Lily as a WORKER at Dumas.

Diane vs. Nikki, even if temporary, was soapy goodness rooted in those characters' histories.

4-8

Well as much as I know it's a rehash of the Damian storyline which was a rehash of the Winter Takeover storyline...I can't say I'm not glad to see Malcolm and Vivica Fox Stephanie. And because it's people I care about, I do feel surprisingly invested. And Malcolm did smile for a second there in spite of the grim storyline.

And I'm really loving all of the Olivia mentions.

Giggly Heffa can go away. I did love when Cane wiped the smirk off her face by mentioning her kids. That works every time on her.

So, Diane is furious with Jack because he was kidnapped and drugged and ended in bed with Patty. No forgiveness on that score even though,as Traci pointed out, she faked her own death.

Nikki splits from Victor over the kidnapping even though he had repeatedly done similar stuff, including having a double take over Jack's life.

Victoria siding with her dad, again even though this is the latest in along line of horrible things her father has done, others of which she had blasted him for.

Just dumb moves to create conflict over horrible plot lines.

If Jack is so outraged at Victor why not go to the police?

11 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

If Jack is so outraged at Victor why not go to the police?

Let's be honest: even if Jack were to go to the police, and even if they actually went to the trouble of arresting and convicting Victor, we've been down this road enough times to know Victor wouldn't be in jail for too long before receiving yet another "get out of jail free" card. And once again, TGVN would be back on top.

6 minutes ago, Khan said:

Let's be honest: even if Jack were to go to the police, and even if they actually went to the trouble of arresting and convicting Victor, we've been down this road enough times to know Victor wouldn't be in jail for too long before receiving yet another "get out of jail free" card. And once again, TGVN would be back on top.

Exactly-so what is the point of these stories? They make no sense and there is no fallout or consequences.

Will they be still telling this story when Eric is 90?

On the one hand I admire the man for continuing to work at his age, but also wonder why he bothers. Doesn't he have anything else to fill his time? Is he that limited that he needs to be defined by showing up to play an awful character week after week?

So many regimes have tried to send EB to the retirement home and they've failed. EB is not going anywhere until either Y&R is cancelled or he goes to that daytime drama in the sky.

Unfortunately Victor hanging on is the least of the shows problems. Underdeveloping and discarding young adult legacy characters has been the big problem since Bell passed. They should placed more effort into the younger generations and phase out the old guard very gradually.

Nick is kinda a dude of a character when he should be your strong middle-age legacy family anchor. The ratings are solid so tptb won't make the changes but what's going to happen when the older actors start to pass? The whole house of cards comes down.

-- All the complaints here about the show are valid and on point. It's just a mess in every area of writing.

-- We got a 3-day reprieve with Shemar Moore, but that's typical Josh Griffith. He gives the show a hit of ecstasy every few months and then it's gone.

-- Sally and Billy are so boring it's unreal. Sally is soooo tired from working so much. 😂 😂 And does any soap character apologize as often as Sally? It's constant.

-- There's truly not a single storyline on this show that I care about. Not one.

3 hours ago, kalbir said:

So many regimes have tried to send EB to the retirement home and they've failed. EB is not going anywhere until either Y&R is cancelled or he goes to that daytime drama in the sky.

I do think this all to get him to leave the show...I at least hope he finds playing this stuff ridiculous as the audience does....

3 hours ago, kalbir said:

So many regimes have tried to send EB to the retirement home and they've failed. EB is not going anywhere until either Y&R is cancelled or he goes to that daytime drama in the sky.

And then I think back to the time he was off the canvas for, like, 2.5 minutes.

46 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I do think this all to get him to leave the show...I at least hope he finds playing this stuff ridiculous as the audience does....

EB hasn't ranted on social media AFAIK.

Just now, kalbir said:

EB hasn't ranted on social media AFAIK.

He's on bluesky now and not X/twitter. I don't know if he's spoken out about anything recently?

The natural story would be for Victor to step back and have his numbskull kids run the business.

And being Victor he would override their decisions, thus causing some conflict.

Or maybe Victor brings in someone knew to take over, again causing ruptures.

But no more GC being controlled by an 85 yr old sociopath.